Lou Reed's Street Hassle

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What do y'all think of this record?

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 21 March 2003 21:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Best thing he ever did, parts of Raven excepted.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 21 March 2003 21:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

i love "leave me alone" or should i say leemee leeemee leeemee leemee leeemeea-loooonne hooo wadda wah wah ooo hooo yah

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Friday, 21 March 2003 21:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

i love the reaction i have every time i put this on: "man, this is so smug and hateful!" ---> "man, this is devastatingly beautiful!"

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 21 March 2003 21:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

"you're just cheap cheap cheap cheap UPTOWN DIRT"

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 21 March 2003 21:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

I luv it. The title track is just about my fave Lou Weed song apart from Coney Island Baby - and any song called I Wanna Be Black is gotta be great.

gary k (gary k), Friday, 21 March 2003 22:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

and any song called I Wanna Be Black is gotta be great

Well, that's not necessarily true, but Lou's happens to be great. :-)

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 21 March 2003 22:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

"I wanna be a Panther
Have a girlfriend named Samantha"

gary k (gary k), Friday, 21 March 2003 23:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

LOU!

girl scout heroin (iamamonkey), Friday, 21 March 2003 23:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

I hated that record when I first heard it - no, that's not true, I LAUGHED at it, I thought it was just so comically bad. I thought it was moronic, slapdash and, generally, a total mess. But then I had a "road to Damascus" type moment and changed my mind about it totally. NOW I think it's moronic, slapdash and, generally, a total mess (and I love and cherish those three aspects of it) and now I laugh WITH it instead of AT it.

Of course, the title track is simply beautiful and its one the few times in his solo career where Lou is actually is good as he thinks he is.

Dadaismus, Saturday, 22 March 2003 12:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

I forgot how much I liked this until this thread popped up. I hated this and New York (the album, that is :) ) for ages, now I love Street Hassle. Still not 100% about New York, but it has it's moments. A bit silly.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Saturday, 22 March 2003 13:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

My copy is in VA:( I saw him do spoken word in '92--the Street Hassle series worked especially well for this.

Mary (Mary), Saturday, 22 March 2003 13:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

two years pass...
Bump.

Still not a big fan of the album, but I'm having an earwig moment right now with the title track. That "it's called bad luck" moment keeps me coming back.

Suzy Creemcheese (SuzyCreemcheese), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 06:34 (eighteen years ago) link

"Real Good Time Together" is so foreshadowing...

Dom iNut (donut), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 07:42 (eighteen years ago) link

... high praise indeed

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 10:21 (eighteen years ago) link

brilliant. my vinyl of it is fucked though, sadly.

controversial buffalo stance (haitch), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 10:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I was listening to (the track) Street Hassle only yesterday and thinking "I wonder if there's a thread on ILM about the rest of the album". I tend to find myself skipping the first couple of tracks, playing the third,fourth and fifth and then pressing eject. Having said that I find I do that with most of Lou Reeds albums.

Also, what the hell is Bruce Springsteen muttering about?

Ned T.RIfle II (Ned T.Rifle II), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 10:52 (eighteen years ago) link

... the first two tracks are great though!

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 11:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I've come back to this album since seeing the end of "the squid and the whale", where I thought it was pretty well-used. I've been really enjoying it again.

Jack L., Tuesday, 31 January 2006 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

"Leave Me Alone" is awesome! I got that Box Set (Between Thought and Expression) when I was 14/15 (on cassette! Who buys a box set on cassette? I did!) and the SH songs, yeah, great!
She took out four twenties ’cause she liked round figures
Everybody’s a queen for a day

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link

title track is as good as lou ever got ---- that bad luck line for sure and "people get all emotional/and sometimes they just don't act rational/they think they're just on tv" ------ real savory. and those strings could churn forever and he sings REAL pretty at the end -------

reacher, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link

"round figures"
Wow, I always heard it as "brown sugar"

When Lou sings "I need you baby" it's the most pathetic sound in the world.

Classic.

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link

wtf did i like about Raven!?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

... even then, I assumed that was a joke on your part!

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link

The album sucks; "I Wanna Be Black" and "Street Hassle" though are classics.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Love it much. And have been wanting to figure out how it's a joke on _Slow Dazzle_ (most esp the cover) for a while now. Just haven't made time.

Hillary Brown (Hillary Brown), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:50 (eighteen years ago) link

While many albums after it and around it are good, Street Hassle was Lou's last absolute classic album... I'd say it's ranks up there with Transformer, Berlin, and Metal Machine Music.

I don't mind Lou Reed, Sally Can't Dance, Rock N' Roll Animal, Legendary Hearts, etc. but I wouldn't call these albums "must-gets", but I would say that of the above four.

Dom iNut (donut), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

... where's "Coney Island Baby"?

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Blue Mask, yo

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I wonder how many people who praise Metal Machine Music have actually sat and listened to the whole thing more than once or twice.

shookout (shookout), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link

*raises hand*

It's been a regular listen for me. Great just before bed.

Dom iNut (donut), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

The early '80s trilogy comprise his best solo records.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link

"I wonder how many people who praise Metal Machine Music have actually sat and listened to the whole thing more than once or twice."

Er, you mean once or twice a month? But, this thread isn't about MMM. But, as long as we're talking other LReed albums, I think that Coney Island is kind of awful, aside from the KLASSIC title track.

And I hate to say it, but I think the Bruce bit at the end might be dud. It's an interesting artifact, though.

Suzy Creemcheese (SuzyCreemcheese), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 22:56 (eighteen years ago) link

i'd say that the title track stands as one of the best arguments for Uncle Lou's much-ballyhooed status as "the poet laureate of rock," as lame as that title sounds. Really hard-hitting and without a trace of the tongue in cheek squalor of a lot of his 70s work. Esp. the middle "bad luck" section--still a breathtaking piece of writing with a matching performance. And i LIKE the Springsteen bit. the rest of the record? enjoyable throwaways for the most part. I love the start of "Gimme Some Good Times" where Lou engages in hilarious self-parody. The production on a lot of these track is bizarre, though. What are they--live recordings with overdubbed vocals? There's crowd noise on a lot of it, I think...

Tyler W (tylerw), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I like theBruce thing at the end, just because it's someone else talk/singing for a few minutes.

And I love the Take No Prisoners version .. especially "know what it's called? ...Bad Luck... (BASS)"

Dave will do (dave225.3), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 23:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think that Street Hassle's lyrics are unimpeachable - I mean, the thing is ten minutes long, and I think he could lose some words. However, the performance of the lyrics is so spot-on that it doesn't really matter. I've never been completely sold on Lou Reed as Lyricist Par Excellance, but his delivery does so much for that cause. Plus, it's tough for me to think of another lyricist who can so easily be tied to urban rock poetics, which might end up lifting his worse lines.

And does it make a difference to people that it's Springsteen circa 1978, when you could find him lounging on a LES couch struggling through some French Symbolist poetry? I never carp about the cameo at the end b/c Springsteen sounds so blokey. Eh, I can live w/ it if everyone else can.

Suzy Creemcheese (SuzyCreemcheese), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link

While googling for these lines (When someone turns that blue / It is a universal truth / And you just know that bitch / Will never fuck again) I found this website offering information to the contrary.

subgenius (subgenius), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 00:02 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Lou Reed gets better with age (my aging I mean). Velvet Underground is fabulous, especially considering that a bunch of kids wrote the stuff. Lots of music gets a little long in the tooth, but Reed stays current. people who hear the stuff at my place are often amazed that the tunes are 20 to 40 years old now.

The bad luck line is unfortunetly true.

Tom Canick, Friday, 28 April 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

The early '80s trilogy comprise his best solo records.

I got love for you Alfred but if you mean The Blue Mask, Legendary Hearts and New Sensations then wtf

the middle one there has maybe two good songs on it

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 28 April 2006 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I love them all, Thomas, especially New Sensations, which, tacky drum sound and all, is his best pop album since Loaded. "Endlessly Jealous," "What Becomes a Legend Most" and "Turn to Me" just smoke.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 28 April 2006 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I remember really, really liking "Turn To Me," and generally feeling heartened by New Sensations 'cause it did have that old Lou pop feel to it. And I loved The Blue Mask. Legendary Hearts however sucked except for "Bottoming Out" ; the title track especially was a horrible dark omen of what lay ahead. "Legendary hearts/tearing us apart" OH YES LOU KILL ME WITH YOUR POETRY MAAAAAN .

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 28 April 2006 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I could listen to Fernando Saunders play bass all day though

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 28 April 2006 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

soto, you also really like empire burlesque, right? good on ya.

flea market economy (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 28 April 2006 19:51 (eighteen years ago) link

but oh man, "street hassle" as the montage music at the end of the squid and the whale -- something about the confused would-be machoness of that song and the growing pains of the squid character just make for something really effective and dare i say awkwardly heartwarming.

flea market economy (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 28 April 2006 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

What about "Betrayed," "Don't Talk to Me About Work," "Last Shot," and "Rooftop Garden"?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 28 April 2006 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

blah, squid and the whale was just trying to be everything royal tennenbaums, but the music choices were really great, "street hassle" at the end was really awesome. was that the same music editor that did royal tennenbaums?

And say what you will be MMM is so relaxing.

andrew b (klik99), Friday, 28 April 2006 23:08 (eighteen years ago) link

"Betrayed" is OK - "DTTMAW" I can't stand, at all, I don't remember "Last Shot" & "Rooftop Garden" was eh. I'm a Coney Island Baby partisan m'self

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Saturday, 29 April 2006 01:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh yeah the title track is the bomb. That crap Simple Minds version kept me in the dark for years until I heard the original. Wow!

Also likely everyone here knows already I'm insane over Take No Prisoners so that version bears mention too. There's one more song on the Street Hassle album, though, that I want to mention...must pull it out to see...you know I'm not sure which one it is. I'll have to play it again to figure it out.

honorary joy division roadie (Bimble...), Saturday, 29 April 2006 03:50 (eighteen years ago) link

From vague memory, though I think "I Wanna Be Black" was pretty good.

Look I had a bad dream about Hitler last night give me a break.

honorary joy division roadie (Bimble...), Saturday, 29 April 2006 03:51 (eighteen years ago) link

YOU KNOW THAT BUSH IS ONLY CHEAP CHEAP UPTOWN DIRT, DON'T YOU?

honorary joy division roadie (Bimble...), Saturday, 29 April 2006 06:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Never saw this before, Fat Lou ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rm9rCdF-jU

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 22:12 (seven years ago) link

Shouldn't have a Street Hassle thread without this (used to be a non-Movie Clips clip on YouTube):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VKpd3XEbD8

I'm positive the title song turned up in another movie after that.

clemenza, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 22:34 (seven years ago) link

Up The Academy before that (I had to google). Jesus, Up The Academy has a crazy soundtrack. I was too young to see it, but was aware that it existed.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:02 (seven years ago) link

What movie had him sing a tune called "Little Sister" again?

Pictures of LiLiPUT (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:20 (seven years ago) link

"Get Crazy"

(song is "My Baby Sister", played over the closing credits)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:23 (seven years ago) link

I've never actually seen it, it sounds amusingly bad

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:24 (seven years ago) link

What's with the album cover

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:29 (seven years ago) link

I've never actually seen it, it sounds amusingly bad

It is. (See also the first movie by the Purple Guy, although it's not quite in that league)

Pictures of LiLiPUT (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:30 (seven years ago) link

I think the song is really called "Little Sister," confusingly so, despite what IMDB says. Wonder if he and Doc Pomus ever discussed this? It is all coming back to me now. Malcolm McDowell was very proud of his performance in this.

Pictures of LiLiPUT (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:37 (seven years ago) link

given Lou's enthusiasm for binaural recording it's funny how shitty this album sounds (title track excepted)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:01 (seven years ago) link

Well he's also into expensive gimmicky high tech guitars and we know how those sound when he plays them.

Son of Shaftway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link

yeah, it's weird -- most of it is live recordings w/ overdubs, right? then again, take no prisoners sounds great.

tylerw, Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link

Throbbing Gristle were well into binaural recording about the same time, so, you know, we're not exactly talking Steely Dan here.

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link

super-sloppy performances aside (and there are several of them on this) it's just funny how he used this *revolutionary recording technology* to make a bunch of apparently random and poor production choices. like if the virtues of binaural recording is that it replicates the experience of the listener being in the room with the band, the album decidedly does *not* sound like that given how things are mixed, punched in and out, etc.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link

this shit looks like it should be the cover of a peter gabriel album or something
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Dummyhead.jpg

tylerw, Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link

This was the Manfred Whatsisname Artifical Head Recording thingummabob? Curiously, "Flowmotion" by Can used it too.

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link

Manfred Schunke.

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link

but yeah, i'm sure if you asked lou for his top 5 favorite recordings, 4 of them would be one-mic doo wop songs. state of the art.

tylerw, Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link

This record sounds amazing you MONSTERS

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link

haha, i mean, i love this record, but it is kind of bizarrely produced

tylerw, Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link

this one's more like a late 80s pink floyd bootleg
http://www.realhd-audio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/binaural_head.jpg

tylerw, Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:38 (seven years ago) link

"Little Sister" is fabulous. I love Lou's solo.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:39 (seven years ago) link

"Get Crazy"

(song is "My Baby Sister", played over the closing credits)

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, May 18, 2016 11:23 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've never actually seen it, it sounds amusingly bad

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, May 18, 2016 11:24 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sounds fantastic you mean...

Captain Cloud (the Turtles' Howard Kaylan) and the Rainbow Telegraph, Max Wolfe's favorite band, arriving in an aging bus that is painted à la the Merry Pranksters' Further.
Nada (Lori Eastside from Kid Creole and the Coconuts) and her 15-member band, an amalgam of many disparate styles of music that appeared on MTV in the early 1980s—part bubble-gum pop, part New Wave, part garage rock. They are joined by "Special Guest Star" Piggy (Lee Ving of the L.A. punk band Fear).
King Blues, the King of the Blues (Bill Henderson), a spoof of Muddy Waters.
Auden (Lou Reed), "metaphysical folk singer, event of the '70s, and antisocial recluse", a spoof of Bob Dylan. Auden, who initially complains of writer's block, is coaxed to appear thinking Max is close to death, but after blithely asking a taxi driver to take the "scenic route," he spends the majority of the movie on his cab ride, improvising lyrics for the song he intends to perform.
Reggie Wanker (Malcolm McDowell), "20 years of rock and roll and still on top", a spoof of Mick Jagger; featuring his drummer Toad played by John Densmore of The Doors. Wanker is beset by a general malaise, unable to fully enjoy his lavish situation of easily available women and drugs.

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link

See for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrIRmMNi800

Son of Shaftway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 26 May 2016 22:01 (seven years ago) link

So I saw it years ago at the Walter Reade theater in Lincoln Center as part of what must have been a Malcolm McDowell retrospective. Malcolm was there (as was Jay Cocks) and did a Q&A. Hey look:
http://www.malcolmtribute.freeiz.com/getcrazy.html

Son of Shaftway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 26 May 2016 23:54 (seven years ago) link

Was there some sort of rule, unwritten or not, that a certain subset of movies made each year, especially those destined to be Midnight Movies, had to cast Paul Bartel and Mary Woronov?

Son of Shaftway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 27 May 2016 00:06 (seven years ago) link

Hold on, Lou Reed AND Mary Woronov were in it?

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Friday, 27 May 2016 00:10 (seven years ago) link

Yup. No Gerard Malanga though, if that's what you're after.

Son of Shaftway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 27 May 2016 00:12 (seven years ago) link

Was hoping for Ondine or Taylor Mead at the very least.

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Friday, 27 May 2016 00:14 (seven years ago) link

Lol this is a hot take

Best thing he ever did, parts of Raven excepted.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, March 21, 2003 3:46 PM (13 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 28 May 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link

but yeah, i'm sure if you asked lou for his top 5 favorite recordings, 4 of them would be one-mic doo wop songs. state of the art.

― tylerw, 26. maj 2016 22:15 (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

indeed: http://ultimateclassicrock.com/lou-reed-playlist/ (couldn't find original article with nice quotes)

that skeeter davis song is kinda the inspiration for who loves the sun, right?

niels, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 13:20 (seven years ago) link

four years pass...

Earlier link seems broken, but whole thing is here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-w0z68nFzk

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link

Maybe we should do a watch party/

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 23:13 (three years ago) link

It has a New Year's Eve theme so very timely.

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 23:21 (three years ago) link

Maybe I should start new thread or put on Rock rock rock rock Rock and roll high school

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 23:36 (three years ago) link

If only one of you watches it this year my posting here will not have been in vain.

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 December 2020 01:17 (three years ago) link

It's got everything: hippies, punks, teen idols, Allen Garfield, Ed Begley, Jr., Paul Bartel and Mary Woronov. A lost Lou Reed song with Robert Quine on it, or so it seems!

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 December 2020 01:42 (three years ago) link

Unless it's Lou soloing, either way.

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 December 2020 01:45 (three years ago) link

uh hey James

Allan Arkush here- the Director of Get Crazy. I am happy to let you know that there will be a GET CRAZY BLU_RAY in early 2021. I am in the process of compiling the extras, since you are such a big fan, any thoughts? –aark✧✧✧@m✧✧.c✧✧

(from that Make Mine Criterion link, in the comments)

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 17 December 2020 01:47 (three years ago) link

Ah, cool, thanks!

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 December 2020 01:48 (three years ago) link

Just the Lou Reed scenes (albeit in shittier quality)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMEbY7vGRmE

birdistheword, Friday, 18 December 2020 22:53 (three years ago) link

Also his scenes from Blue in the Face (which I can't recommend, but it has its moments, particularly Jim Jarmusch's bit on smoking)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xduERw9BSns

birdistheword, Friday, 18 December 2020 22:54 (three years ago) link

Just looked at the personnel for Reggie’s band. Pretty interesting.

Whamagideon Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 20 December 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

eight months pass...

Love how the absolutely dead mic on Lou’s vocals gives the feeling of him in some shitty dimly lit studio at 3am trying to get it together. Such a nighttime album.

assert (MatthewK), Saturday, 4 September 2021 00:13 (two years ago) link


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