Veronica Mars

I should move on.

Actually, I wonder if UPN affiliates might back out of showing the new episode tonight and if they'll just show the previous week's.

does she like the show?

KYLE, DO NOT SUCCOMB TO TIVO. IT IS THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE. MY WIFE HASN'T LEFT THE COUCH SINCE APRIL.

http://villagevoice.com/issues/0449/tv.php

"pulses with promise" is about right. Good character too, at least fr me.

Plus i was reading this thread, Why do I not get, care for, and in fact utterly disdain Buffy et al? while i was watching some episodes which implanted buffy in my brain. Now i think veronica mars is the first Post-Buffy show i have seen. there are probably already ones anyway, i miss a lot of tv. post-buffy is a pretty crap term.

err, Mel W to thread?

Some have been more uneven than others.

it's like Sherlock Holmes, there's no need to show Veronica progressing (the death knell of many awesome genre shows)... she can just be a deeply damaged badass over and over again

I super hope they don't bring back Piz or dunkindonut next season.

Northern Exposure intermittently had a supernatural weirdness that could be Twin Peaks-y I guess.

It started in 1990 - twin peaks was perhaps an obvious touchstone (though I guess I’ll have to watch it to find out if it was the writers or the critics doing the touching)

Ha, reviewing the first two eps, I had forgotten how much the show emphasized beatdowns as a model for adolescent conflict resolution.

halfway through this new season and I'm loving it - it's aged exactly as it should, perfectly in sync with its audience.
One small thing though, has Weevil always looked like a pre-teen dressed up as 90's gangsta for Halloween? Or did they make it worse by trying to age the character?

https://www.cbr.com/veronica-mars-tina-majorino-rob-thomas-book-report-promise/

I'm avoiding the recent part of this thread because I haven't been able to see this yet- but could some kind person have a look at this DVD on Amazon and see if it looks like s4 from the description etc? It's labelled season 1 but released 22 October 2019. Thanks!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Veronica-Mars-Complete-First-Season/dp/B07VBH7242/

Description is def the new season

thank you!
Weird that it's "The Complete First Season"

don't buy things from amazon

The cover looks like Veronica Mars combined with Leatherface

well this was a ball!
I really enjoyed watching it but also had this weird feeling of unease a lot of the time. Maybe it was Logan's 'keeping in the anger' or maybe it was all the adult dialogue which sat oddly at first (I can't remember if the movie was like that), or maybe I couldn't quite get a feel for some of the characters? idk.

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2019 season is nominated in the 2019 ILX TV poll:

ILX's Best Television of 2019 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends January 31

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (4 minimum, 25 maximum, organized by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail by end of day today. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

trying to do a rewatch and made it through s2 fine but s3 really feels like work. I hate Piz !

welcome to the club

I figure after Piz’s Pitchfork internship fell through he probably became a bitter ilxor

piz is too ridiculous a creation for me to hate

or maybe not ridiculous in and of himself so much as i think it's ridiculous that someone wrote him and put him in a show

the kiss scene between piz and veronica is all time, despite his shortcomings

Piz is named after one of the show’s directors iirc.

found myself unexpectedly rooting for Piz in the VM movie though! He was nice and clean and cute there compared to the still volatile Logan.

I barely remember Piz tbh. Was s3 the one with the Stanford Prison Experiment storyline?

yes! featuring rider strong

Yep lol. Season 3 was a chore tbf, way too many subplots and new characters no one cared about.

i remember preferring the third season to the second

i think 1 >>>> 4 > 3 > 2

i can't hate piz when he's so great in glee

i mean, er, glow

iirc 2 mainly suffers from the long format season, so much filler and the stakes just go up and up and up until it's even more ridiculous than usual

I would still take it over 3 tho

all relationships on this show dwarfed completely by veronica and keith's. although i am fond of veronica/wallace early seasons friendship.

“They would all be eight-episode mysteries,” Thomas said about his vision for future seasons. “For Season 5 the ideas I have been noodling with have all been kind of Agatha Christie in that Murder In the Manor House sort of idea.

In my head this became Knives Out

Oh yeah Glow totally rehabilitate pix for me.

Logan is so f-ing tortured and hot in the movie. You can't blame her for throwing over bland NY guy even while your higher brain is going "NNNNOOOOOOO!" as she caroms right off a cliff.

I liked season 4's exploration of that aspect of the Veronica/Logan dynamic

yeah that was my favorite part of the whole season, novel and thoughtful

Liz works for Ira Glass in the movie, right? He’s not even living in the same universe as Veronica

I haven’t seen 4 yet. But I loved s2, flawed as it may be. S3 tho... the feminists vs comedians stuff ... the dean who Veronica has to charm... that I’m supposed to care if piz gets a radio show... the weird Stanford prison thing ... the only good plot so far (I’m just a few eps in) is Keith at the cabin (RIP Kendall)

Also piz in the movie might as well be a plot device designed to irritate Veronica who clearly is better off w Logan chemistry

just now noticed my autocorrect issue. Liz was obviously meant to be Piz

S3 ended strong

S4 was A+ but that ending ... :( X infinity

I kinda admire Rob Thomas for the honesty of directly admitting that he mainly killed off Logan cause he had no concept of how VM could be a continuing, interesting story if Veronica is happy/content

Unfortunately he seems to have misjudged interest—Are we getting a season 5? Man reviews of s4 were way more scathing than i realized

I though it was pretty good! Surprised so many people care about logan anyway, it’s not like he blew up Keith

So we have been rewatching Veronica Mars sporadically as it's been on a channel here. Finally got around to re-watching the movie a couple of weeks ago.
Got a Lionsgate trial subscription to watch Party Down, and a ton of Mars Universe actors pop up in that, including Keith Mars.

The past few days, we decided to watch Contagion - thought it might be 'fun' after the pandemic. Anyway, Keith Mars again pops up in it, kinda weird.

Before ditching Lionsgate, thought we might as well watch Station Eleven (not yet convinced that was a good idea, not least right after Contagion). Anyway! Guess who rides up on a bike in that? Keith Mars again.
I'm not complaining, I like seeing him. It's just a bit like he's following us about.

wait until 90s sitcom Just Shoot Me shows up on streaming

Never heard of it! best one yet was Galaxy Quest.

Party Down was created by the non-Matchbox Rob Thomas, who also created Veronica Mars

I, Zombie too. Keith Mars actor shows up there also.

I, Zombie of course is another Rob Thomas show - pretty much all of the main veronica mars actors appeared on that show at some point

I, Juggalo

I revisited high school romance comedy Drive Me Crazy, which I hadn't realized (but have now learned) was scripted by Rob Thomas. When it came out in November 1999, it was third in a series of similarly themed flicks that year – after She's All That and 10 Things I Hate About You – and while it's less flashy than those two, it has a certain low-key appeal and degree of "realism" that generate particular interest. The dialogue is a step above, and there are certain character beats that reflect Thomas's skill & sensibilities. Cool soundtrack, too...