Ernie Bushmiller's "Nancy": C/D?

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I always assumed this strip was terrible, mainly because of its rep (and the present-day incarnation doesn't help), but I happened to read a bunch of the old ones in a big book of newspaper comics the other day and it's absolutely amazing! There's something mildly creepy and unsettling about it that I can't quite put my finger on - that absolutely blank, deadpan tone reminds me of something like "Zippy," only Bushmiller does it a lot better.

A good case for the defense: http://www.interestingideas.com/ii/nancy.htm

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 23 July 2004 09:42 (nineteen years ago) link

It was a terrific strip in its prime, and that prime lasted for many years. I have a couple of tremendous collections.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 23 July 2004 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

It was all about that weird mom.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 July 2004 03:24 (nineteen years ago) link

the one thing I like about the relatively recent return to Bushmiller type strips is that it is soooo fuuuuucckked uuup these days. ugly fat children and Elvis winking from a framed picture and shit like that.

ROLLO!

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 24 July 2004 04:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I just got an old Comics Journal with a Dan Clowes interview, and he agrees with me!

Gary Groth: What's your position on Ernie Bushmiller?

Clowes: I'm pro-Bushmiller. I mean, I don't like to get up on my soapbox and pontificate about Bushmiller as much as some of these people because I think that defeats the whole purpose. But to me, Nancy had an amazing atmosphere to it that I found kind of scary and off-putting, and really interesting. So yeah, I love Bushmiller, and this new guy who does Nancy should be shot.

G: For betraying the Bushmiller ethos?

C: Yeah, that's just awful dreck.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 24 July 2004 04:53 (nineteen years ago) link

(of course that interview's from 1992, so he's not referring to the current artist on Nancy, but the other guy who did the strip for about a decade and tried to "normalize" it)

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 24 July 2004 04:57 (nineteen years ago) link

But to me, Nancy had an amazing atmosphere to it that I found kind of scary and off-putting, and really interesting


sums up the then and now (but not the normalizer) quite well

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 24 July 2004 05:01 (nineteen years ago) link

AH CHOO

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 24 July 2004 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I swear there's been a thread about this. Anyway if you want a coffee table book, WRITE a REAL LETTER to the contact info on the official Nancy site, begging for it. Basically the caretakers of Bushmiller's estate want to do it but their publisher doesn't think it'll sell.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 24 July 2004 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link

There has been a coffee tableish book before - I have it.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 24 July 2004 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link

five card nancy!

jess, Saturday, 24 July 2004 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought it was kinda cool that aunt fritzie wears suzy boguss t-shirts now. that dude is a serious country fan.

oh, but yeah, Bushmiller was the coolest.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 24 July 2004 20:28 (nineteen years ago) link

haha - the only time i've written a letter to the atlanta journal-constitution was when they dropped the daily edition of nancy.

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:21 (nineteen years ago) link


cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link

o goddammit

ihttp://www.gilchriststudios.com/nancy/celeb2/10b.gif

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay, that hurt my head, but it was also immeasurably better than freakin' Mutts. So is the whole Bettie Page thing the Gilchrists' special touch?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
back in 1994 ivan brunetti tried out for nancy - he came spookily close to the original strip's look and tone: http://www.ivanbrunetti.com/portfolio/misc/nancystrips.html

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 12 September 2005 07:40 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.joebrainard.org/NANCY_MAIN.htm

anthony, Monday, 12 September 2005 08:04 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

cuz it's kinda awesome.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link

That's freaking Little Lulu.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link

My first thought too, Abbott.
But the "Field Enterprises" mark is the folks what own the Nancy trademark.

Perhaps this less humanized version will strike truer to home.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-40s-Comic-Strip-Nancy-Doll-Georgene-Averill_W0QQitemZ280285480083QQihZ018QQcategoryZ36549QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link

THERE we go. That is the Nancy I would buy.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link

srsly when did Nancy ever wear Moccasins?

Maybe it's like a Tijuana-style Lulu ripoff, that first one.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I like the weird hydrocephalic Nancy; my gut tells me it's a licensed piece from the strips nuttier period.
Why is there no reprint set of Nancy material? It's certainly as marketable as Pogo.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Even '20s-'30s strips when it was Fritzi Ritz before Nancy spin-off, she didn't look like that.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Now i really want to buy this just to be sure.
But I can hardly justify it.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I have a great Nancy compendium from eBay ($8) that has commentary from Art Spiegelman & others. v. good!

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, Kitchen Sink did a buncha reprints that I would buy used if I could find them at the Strand. You know the whole Griffith "Three Rocks" philosophy, right?

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:32 (fifteen years ago) link

That whole strip is in there.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link

potential tattoo for when I just don't care anymore:
http://www.rdrop.com/%7Ehalf/Personal/Hobbies/Comics/Nancy/3Rocks.gif

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

and is AWESOME and true

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

haha forks I would get that

next tat I have lined up (hopefully as an xmas gift!) is a tat of the old Comics Code of Authority seal of approval

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

"Art Spiegelman explains how a drawing of three rocks in a background scene was Ernie's way of showing us there were some rocks in the background. It was always three. Why? Because two rocks wouldn't be 'some rocks.' Two rocks would be a pair of rocks. And four rocks was unacceptable because four rocks would indicate 'some rocks' BUT IT WOULD BE ONE ROCK MORE THAN WAS NECESSARY TO CONVEY THE IDEA OF 'SOME ROCKS.'"

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Okay, a girl with a comic code authority seal gets love forever.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I am thinking my inner arm between pit & right elbow.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Those Kitchen Sink compilations are great. I wish I'd picked up more than the two I have -- they were cheaper than dirt for a while in the mid 90s.

a new Rock Hardy screen name because I can't find the old one (Rock Hardy), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Did that publishing company die? They put out Cages, right?

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Denis Kitchen got caught in the speculator bubble-bust, sold out to Kevin Eastman...limbo.

a new Rock Hardy screen name because I can't find the old one (Rock Hardy), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I would think the tramp stamp comics code would be the classy way to go.
All that Kitchen Sink stuff seems to have more or less disappeared from used book stores and comic shops in the city.
I think Tundra did Cages?
Kitchen Sink did fold, yes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitchen_Sink_Press
A shame, cause they were simply a decade or so ahead of their time.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link

The Lil' Abner reprints are the most priceless stuff they did; I'm often tempted to blow a shitload of money and buy up a bunch of em.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I am lucky, they have them at my public library.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I know it's not fashionable to like Al Capp so much these days, but boy he could really tell a bigoted, wingnut story!

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Fucking Comics.com keeps interrupting their Lil Abner Classics in the middle of storylines!

There is no Grodd but Mallah and Congorilla is His Prophet. (Oilyrags), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:13 (fifteen years ago) link

I know it's not fashionable to like Al Capp so much these days, but boy he could really tell a bigoted, wingnut story!

maybe in the 60's, but I wouldn't call stuff like the Shmoo and the Bald Iggle the products of a bigoted wingnut.

clotpoll, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:35 (fifteen years ago) link

He could also tell hilarious slapstick nonsense story.

And is obv better (in quality, art & bigotry level) than say Katzenjammer Kids or Bringing Up Father.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Katzenjammer Kids never made me anything other than confused and bored.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:49 (fifteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Nancy, the voice of sanity in 1970

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 23 August 2009 05:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Coming soon.

KEEP CALM+++THRILL FACTOR OVERLOAD+++KEEP CALM (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 23 August 2009 08:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I liked the floral hipsters joke

salvador dollywood (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 23 August 2009 08:13 (fourteen years ago) link

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2020/06/18

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, 24 September 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2020/10/13

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 18 October 2020 11:01 (three years ago) link

heh love that little tear

Nhex, Sunday, 18 October 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Me and my partner for the last 20 years

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2020/12/15

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 18 December 2020 10:36 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...
two months pass...

eh?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 April 2021 21:58 (three years ago) link

Consider the date. Consider who created said strip today.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 April 2021 22:10 (three years ago) link

mmm hmm got it

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 April 2021 22:14 (three years ago) link

Might as well have posted the other: https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2021/04/01

Nhex, Thursday, 1 April 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link

...which calls back a gag from this same time last year: https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2020/04/01

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 April 2021 23:48 (three years ago) link

hah! did not catch that at all.

Nhex, Friday, 2 April 2021 00:24 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2021/05/06

The 'Featured Comment' is a humdinger.

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 6 May 2021 20:22 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

In the grand tradition - excellent

I have some OG examples of labor day nancys at home - will see if I can dig them out

Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 September 2021 14:19 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

I follow the 'Nancy Comics by Ernie Bushmiller' account on twitter (@JohnnyCallicutt), as the name suggests it mainly posts Bushmiller strips, but it's recently done a few strips from early on in Guy Gilchrist's run, and they're actually ... quite good? Obviously paying homage to Bushmiller's style, I don't know how or when it went from this to four panels of Phil Fumble talking about his favourite classic rock albums.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNih4SpWYKoLIA8?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNvC9XMXIAAv9sA?format=jpg&name=small

those were co-created with his brother Brad Gilchrist, so maybe Brad was the talented one?

soref, Sunday, 13 March 2022 14:47 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2022/04/01

Wild ride in the comments.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 April 2022 22:33 (two years ago) link

one of my favorite things about new Nancy are the boomers in the comments whose sense of humor is still stuck in the 1950s

for what its worth I don't really get the punchline either

frogbs, Friday, 1 April 2022 23:07 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

another rare 'actually pretty good' Gilchrist era strip

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRjsvw-XMAYCT11?format=jpg&name=medium

soref, Saturday, 30 April 2022 09:26 (one year ago) link

Hey now...

I mean, it's very different that the stuff he was doing two decades into his run, we can agree on that at least

https://cafans.b-cdn.net/images/Category_35597/subcat_163089/DoPPEFrZ_1303150948231.jpg

soref, Saturday, 30 April 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link

Hey now...

James Garner film festival on Channel 48... (sic), Saturday, 30 April 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

I loathed the comic when I was a kid, but the current incarnation is actually pretty good.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 30 April 2022 21:21 (one year ago) link

"Some Idiot from R'Lyeh" LOL

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 30 April 2022 21:27 (one year ago) link

xp soref wow, what the hell

Nhex, Sunday, 1 May 2022 01:49 (one year ago) link

three months pass...
three weeks pass...

Nancy Panel By Ernie Bushmiller pic.twitter.com/ZzpvEvC0LV

— Nancy Comics by Ernie Bushmiller (@JohnnyCallicutt) September 5, 2022

one month passes...
one month passes...

Nancy Panel By Ernie Bushmiller pic.twitter.com/WmTRfHtIBE

— Nancy Comics by Ernie Bushmiller (@JohnnyCallicutt) December 6, 2022

mark s, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:15 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

"bad gus"

Nancy By Ernie Bushmiller 1.8.50 pic.twitter.com/OJcJu1b0FR

— Nancy Comics by Ernie Bushmiller (@JohnnyCallicutt) January 8, 2023

mark s, Sunday, 8 January 2023 13:02 (one year ago) link

Bad Gus

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 8 January 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link

Gas Bud

#homilytweet (cat), Sunday, 8 January 2023 22:08 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/L7SP2GU.png

mark s, Saturday, 21 January 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link

nancy duchamp

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 21 January 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link

Classic three-rock placement there.

Kim Kimberly, Saturday, 21 January 2023 18:58 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Nancy Panel By Ernie Bushmiller pic.twitter.com/tyFR5zv8OL

— Nancy Comics by Ernie Bushmiller (@JohnnyCallicutt) February 6, 2023

mark s, Monday, 6 February 2023 21:04 (one year ago) link

that’s how it was supposed to be

Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 February 2023 21:04 (one year ago) link

This could be us but you playing

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2023 23:27 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

what

https://assets.amuniversal.com/05503420daa801345620005056a9545d

visiting, Friday, 3 March 2023 03:12 (one year ago) link

People used to take their shoes off at the movies, and Nancy was in a theater of adult men, thus explaining her now-hilarious looking footwear

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 3 March 2023 11:55 (one year ago) link

i think they look cool

mark s, Friday, 3 March 2023 12:28 (one year ago) link

Did they really though?

pplains, Friday, 3 March 2023 14:39 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

After 1,674 slight variations on the same joke, jaimes confounds expectations by combining it with her other joke

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2023/08/26

Grandall Flange (wins), Saturday, 26 August 2023 07:15 (seven months ago) link

goddamn smirky eyebrow-raised badass poochie cartoons nowadays

Kim Kimberly, Saturday, 26 August 2023 08:13 (seven months ago) link

Ah i totally forgot that was coming out... thanks!

Kim Kimberly, Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:03 (seven months ago) link

Wow! Perfect

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:04 (seven months ago) link


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