People who talk about music but don't own a record player: C/D

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i went back to the salvation army the other day and they had the same 20 vikki carr LPs they had before.

jody heatherton (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 17 July 2005 17:28 (eighteen years ago) link

It's all about Mantovani here.

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 17 July 2005 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link

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Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Sunday, 17 July 2005 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

if you're a herb alpert/sergio mendes fan, you need a record player.

Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 17 July 2005 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, time is the other major point. I work 10+/- hours a day, and I work at home as well, and I like to have music playing as much of that time as possible. Thanks to high-fidelity/high portability headphones, this doesnt' necessarily limit sound quality. So flexibility-with-quality is very important to me, and I'm willing to pay a premium over LPs, if I must.

I still relish time spent *just* listening to music--but even then, I like it to be literally just the music. Thre's not an emotional/nostalgic appeal to me in preparing the vinyl, flipping it over half way, etc.


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i went back to the salvation army the other day and they had the same 20 vikki carr LPs they had before.

Well, in case you're ever uncertain whether you're meeting your "crap" quota, and your opinions may be in danger of unstable unreliability levels. . .

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 17 July 2005 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

http://thursdays.com/pic200/carr3318.jpg

jody heatherton (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 17 July 2005 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Something this thread made me realize: anyone you'd want to call a retarded asshole is probably much less entertaining than an assholish guy with down's syndrome would actually be.

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 17 July 2005 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Man.

Fuck cleaning something everytime i want to listen to it.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 17 July 2005 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I love how this thread needs a douche despite being full of douchery.

All in good fun. Except maybe you?

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 17 July 2005 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link

hubba:

http://www.yoursongscollectibles.com/item-542.jpg

jody heatherton (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 17 July 2005 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm into bad fun, I.M. Naughty fun.

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 17 July 2005 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link

People who talk about music but don't know music theory: C?D

bahtology, Sunday, 17 July 2005 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Of course I knew you guys would take this way more seriously than I do. Part of the fun, I guess.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 17 July 2005 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link

People who make music that doesn't require music theory: C/D?


hehe


Actually, if "people who don't know music theory who make music with people who do: C/D" were the question, I'd go big up C.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 17 July 2005 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

nobody takes you seriously, paunchy

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 17 July 2005 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

if i buy a turntable now, whos gonna listen to the three weeks of unheard mp3s on my hd. maybe i should hire a music critic to do it for me

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Sunday, 17 July 2005 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

or, what daniel_rf said

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Sunday, 17 July 2005 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

some friends got a looooot of gino vanelli vinyl at the local salvation army

mike h. (mike h.), Sunday, 17 July 2005 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link

"Why do people buy "digitally remastered" vinyl?"

There's digital mastering and then there's digital mastering. Studios these days are using much better digital recording techniques than were available when the CD format was invented. The information often gets dumbed-down when it's mastered for CD. The vinyl, in these cases, could sound better than the CD.

"you'd have to ask someone on ilm who i have sent a tape to if they sound okay though."

They sound great!

Sang Freud (jeff_s), Sunday, 17 July 2005 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link

There's digital mastering and then there's digital mastering. Studios these days are using much better digital recording techniques than were available when the CD format was invented. The information often gets dumbed-down when it's mastered for CD. The vinyl, in these cases, could sound better than the CD.

In the sense that a record is like a high-quality negative and a CD is, at best, like a non-compressed digital photo---no matter how big the digital photo, if you soom in you eventually see pixels, whereas with a negative you can blow up a print to almost any size?

That makes sense--literal, perfect analogue should half "all" the information. But what record players/hi-fi's/listening rooms can fully take advantage?

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 17 July 2005 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

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emile berliner (lovebug starski), Sunday, 17 July 2005 19:01 (eighteen years ago) link

kenan you are weird

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 17 July 2005 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

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Ô¿Ô (eman), Sunday, 17 July 2005 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.loveiswonderful.com/articles/kevin_053.html

Ô¿Ô (eman), Sunday, 17 July 2005 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link

"This is the thread where Kenan is a snob about something completely asinine and unimportant and ILM totally falls for it"

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 17 July 2005 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Hitler plz k thx

Barmy of Fløwers (Øystein), Sunday, 17 July 2005 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link

In the sense that a record is like a high-quality negative and a CD is, at best, like a non-compressed digital photo---no matter how big the digital photo, if you soom in you eventually see pixels, whereas with a negative you can blow up a print to almost any size?

That makes sense--literal, perfect analogue should half "all" the information. But what record players/hi-fi's/listening rooms can fully take advantage?

Except that physics limits the amount of information you can extract from a source. LEARN 1 INFORMATION THEORY

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Theory

OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Sunday, 17 July 2005 19:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Kenan, part of this is an age thing. A lot of us when kids and teenagers had LPs and 8 tracks and cassettes as the only format available, and we've already been through the garage sales, bargain bins and all that, a long time ago. I don't feel the need to do it again. We listened to the old records before they were as old as they are now.

I've sold a lot of my LPs out of necessity, moving around the country and out of it. I keep a core collection of about 200 must-haves, mostly original classics from 1976-1987. I don't have a record player right now, but I do plan to get one eventually.

I know what all that old music sounds like on vinyl, but right now I'm content with MP3s for the sheer convenience.

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't even own a CD player. Well, I have a CD changer but no speakers to play it through!

Do I win?

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Kenan is a flabby tirebiter, but i have no problem with his silly thread, only with the hipster thriftstore crap that has nothing to do with ANYTHING. J. Hipster Thriftstore, wasn't he an Ernie Kovacs character?

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't have a fundamental problem if people don't want a record player, though I too feel they must be missing something. But hey, let's at least admit there are better formats for sound quality than mp3. How about .wav or .flac for example?

Hydrochloric Shaved Weirds (Bimble...), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I used to have New Order's Movement on vinyl for many years. It later became my favourite album of all time, but the point is that this vinyl copy I had contained this one "pop" noise on it in the very beginning intro part of the first song on it "Dreams Never End". And somehow, for reasons I can't explain I grew to associate that brief "pop" noise with the music itself. They intertwined and existed side by side. I sold the vinyl later and regret it. I long to hear that "pop" sound exactly placed as it was. And I think people who don't have record players or never had them I should say, would never understand how that could occur.

Hydrochloric Shaved Weirds (Bimble...), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link

nah, there's a skip at the end of "Debaser" on my Doolittle CD I think I'm gonna hear any time somebody plays the track.

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Take sides: CD skips versus LP pops, GO!

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a record player, but I don't like it and I never listen to vinyl. Maybe I would if I had a better record player.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:40 (eighteen years ago) link

The worst is knowing which record you have on just by the sound of pops in the final groove.

OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

PEOPLE WHO POST ON THE INTERNET BUT NEVER POSTED ON FIDONET: C/D

OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Sunday, 17 July 2005 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link

amateurist otm

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 17 July 2005 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link

If you love music, there's no good goddamn reason not to have a turntable.

What about, I don't know, MONEY?

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Sunday, 17 July 2005 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I used to have New Order's Movement on vinyl for many years. It later became my favourite album of all time, but the point is that this vinyl copy I had contained this one "pop" noise on it in the very beginning intro part of the first song on it "Dreams Never End". And somehow, for reasons I can't explain I grew to associate that brief "pop" noise with the music itself. They intertwined and existed side by side. I sold the vinyl later and regret it. I long to hear that "pop" sound exactly placed as it was. And I think people who don't have record players or never had them I should say, would never understand how that could occur.

wrong!! i'll even trump miccio's example; i had a faulty luomo mp3 with a bit of the song excised (it was "so you")... it kinda sounded like an abrupt jump-cut & i thought it was totally cool! eventually i got the album and it wasn't there anymore, it was a faulty mp3!!

MUTEK HERE I COME

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 17 July 2005 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

too late.

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Sunday, 17 July 2005 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, I have the second Vicki Carr album jody posted, it's good.

I can only listen to musicals on vinyl.

I need a new stylus but apparently the kind I need isn't available anymore? Maybe I need a different Radio Shack clerk.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Sunday, 17 July 2005 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Owning a record player provides more possibilities for fun. (Like buying Vicki Carr records, haha.)

But then again, the less people with record players means less people buying records which means more for me!!!!

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Sunday, 17 July 2005 22:35 (eighteen years ago) link

"I need a new stylus but apparently the kind I need isn't available anymore?"


www.needledoctor.com you can e-mail them for info.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 17 July 2005 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link

But then again, the less people with record players means less people buying records which means more for me!!!!

yeah! that's the spirit.

btw i was buying records well before i started buying cds, which wasn't even until '89 or '90 (cuz i didn't have anything to play them on). i'm certainly not copping a "been there, done that" attitude.

jody heatherton (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 17 July 2005 22:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Peter Gabriel's third self-titled album, the melty face one: $3.50.

That's what I'm talkin' 'bout.

Also, Dan Perry OTM.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 18 July 2005 00:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Paunchy is right about the cheapness. There are people here who need to understand that deliciously sappy punk-pop of Blondie's caliber probably needs to be experienced on vinyl and I'm ashamed I don't own any. But maybe I'll be buried underneath a cardboard sleeve for Parallel Lines and the Gods will show mercy on me.

Hydrochloric Shaved Weirds (Bimble...), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO STOP

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Vinyl is fun for the people who can afford it or care about it. That's all I'm trying to say, and really what else can you say about it?

Hydrochloric Shaved Weirds (Bimble...), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link


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