poor editing sorry
― i am updating my User Agreement and Privacy Policy (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 02:21 (seven years ago)
and there's really no dogma, you conceptualize this power however you want, and relate to it on your own terms. there's just this idea that you're being aided by a power outside yourself. I know that's still... weird, but I'm trying to convey that's it's a WEIRD program not a RELIGIOUS program.
However, there is a strong implication that, if you cannot even concede that there may be any sort of spiritual power out there, then the program might not be for you.
― i am updating my User Agreement and Privacy Policy (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 02:27 (seven years ago)
That is a really, really weird program. I see it came out of Prohibition. But hey, if it helps people and gives them a sense of responsibility , accountability to others, go nuts.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 15:20 (seven years ago)
- You just have to accept that there's a higher power guiding your life.
- My wife?
- No. Higher than that.
- My mother?
- Well, no, more like...
- Booze?
― pplains, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 15:46 (seven years ago)
I remember growing up in Akron and seeing the massive amounts of people who would go to Founder's Day (I think it was usually held at Akron U/U of Akron?) It was always impressive to me that so many people would show up and have something in common so strong that was not religious, not political, but intensely personal. I always sort of envied the community aspect even if the program itself didn't appeal to me on a number of levels.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 16:10 (seven years ago)
I did some research on the who lived in my last house. For most of its life, from WWII to the late 80s, it was owned by the guy who integrated AA meetings in Arkansas.
Kind of a weird claim to fame, but notable.
― pplains, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 16:24 (seven years ago)
Trapper Keepers. I remember watching an episode of South Park (or the Simpsons) all about Trapper Keepers and have no fucking clue what they were on about.
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:32 (seven years ago)
... had to google them right there to ensure I'd got the name right.
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:38 (seven years ago)
things i was shockingly old, as an American, when i learned: the folders themselves are called TRAPPERS because they trap your loose papers, and they are themselves KEPT in album form by TRAPPER KEEPERS
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:40 (seven years ago)
wow very impressed that TRAPPER KEEPER describes a two-level organization scheme in two words
― you bet, nancy (map), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:57 (seven years ago)
tbh I don't think I did google trapper keepers when I watched that SP episode and still have no idea wtf they are. some kind of fancy ring binder by the looks of it. I think I thought they were like a diary or something
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:29 (seven years ago)
Trapper Keepers completely never fit into desks or bookbags.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:34 (seven years ago)
(xp) no I meant I had to google trapper keeper before I posted on this thread!
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:58 (seven years ago)
I am still suspicious of googling trapper keepers* in case they just turn out to be ring binders and I get mad at them again
*or to go into a ....childrens' ....supply store? in the US
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 04:22 (seven years ago)
sic they’re just a brand of ring binders
― valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 04:28 (seven years ago)
And there is no such thing as a “children’s supply store”
― valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 04:29 (seven years ago)
what do you mean they're all over the place in my america
― you bet, nancy (map), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 04:30 (seven years ago)
post office, public library, children's supply store in every town i've ever known
― you bet, nancy (map), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 04:31 (seven years ago)
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera)
kbs _is_ a pretty good beer
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 04:34 (seven years ago)
? idgi
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 12:34 (seven years ago)
There’s a brewer called founders & that is one of their beers
― U. K. Le Garage (wins), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 12:37 (seven years ago)
ahhh righti just looked it up and it is based in michigan -- another american thing!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 12:44 (seven years ago)
[streaming the american soccerball coverage]
"And then stayed tuned for Spain vs Portugal... The Iberian Peninsula Derby!"
― Cardigan B (King Boy Pato), Friday, 15 June 2018 13:34 (seven years ago)
ha
murica
― F# A# (∞), Friday, 15 June 2018 15:56 (seven years ago)
(we have fun with the garbage disposal these days, every bit of discarded food is a Jabba foot soldier or Boba Fett.)
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Friday, 15 June 2018 19:54 (seven years ago)
"Lede". WTF?
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:18 (seven years ago)
Like Morbius' bugaboos "callback" and "showrunner", it's industry jargon that has leaked into the popular consciousness
― valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:24 (seven years ago)
afaik "lede", "hed", and "dek" are all spelled that way (i.e., wrong) so if they are left in copy during the editing process, it'll be easy for a copyeditor to spot and remove them
― valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:25 (seven years ago)
fixt.
― pplains, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:28 (seven years ago)
I never realised it was just a misspelling of "lead" that had become a standard, I've only ever seen it "buried the lede" and I guess thought it was an archaic term that only stuck around in that phrase
― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:28 (seven years ago)
Never seen it before today, on ILX... twice!
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:35 (seven years ago)
sked
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:41 (seven years ago)
reax
stix nix hick pix
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:06 (seven years ago)
i'm the one that used it, sorry! i've seen plenty of journos use it, informally. same with "graf".
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:12 (seven years ago)
No need (nede?) for apologies, it was also in a tweet someone posted. An American tweet.
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:14 (seven years ago)
as an astute observer of american journalism, i feel the need to Both Sides the shit out of this
So how did we come to spell it lede?Although evidence dates the spelling to the 1970s, we didn't enter lede in our dictionaries until 2008. For much of that time, it was mostly kept under wraps as in-house newsroom jargon.Once, Al Marlens, the assistant managing editor, told one of the cleaning men to walk up to me and ask to see my lede, “not lead,” a newsie slang for the first sentence of a story. —Myron S. Waldman, Forgive Us Our Press Passes, 1991Spelling the word as lede helped copyeditors, typesetters, and others in the business distinguish it from its homograph lead (pronounced \led\ ), which also happened to refer to the thin strip of metal separating lines of type (as in a Linotype machine). Since both uses were likely to come up frequently in a newspaper office, there was a benefit to spelling the two words distinctly.William Safire, who knew a thing or two about newsrooms, wrote in his New York Times "On Language" column in 1990, "Wouldn't it be easier if the noun for the metal were spelled the way it sounded (led, to rhyme with dead) and the noun for the beginning of a newspaper story were spelled the way it is pronounced (lede, or leed, to rhyme with deed)?"Others have been less than willing to embrace the new spelling. At The Awl, founder Choire Sicha tore out at those who use lede like it's an affectation:You schmucks who use ridiculous journo-terms make me crazy! Finally, someone is willing to speak out against the use of “lede” in public. Because, ha ha, sucka, there’s no reason for it! (Plus, MOST OF YOU ARE JUST BLOGGERS.) —Choire Sicha, The Awl, 19 Sept. 2011
Although evidence dates the spelling to the 1970s, we didn't enter lede in our dictionaries until 2008. For much of that time, it was mostly kept under wraps as in-house newsroom jargon.
Once, Al Marlens, the assistant managing editor, told one of the cleaning men to walk up to me and ask to see my lede, “not lead,” a newsie slang for the first sentence of a story. —Myron S. Waldman, Forgive Us Our Press Passes, 1991
Spelling the word as lede helped copyeditors, typesetters, and others in the business distinguish it from its homograph lead (pronounced \led\ ), which also happened to refer to the thin strip of metal separating lines of type (as in a Linotype machine). Since both uses were likely to come up frequently in a newspaper office, there was a benefit to spelling the two words distinctly.
William Safire, who knew a thing or two about newsrooms, wrote in his New York Times "On Language" column in 1990, "Wouldn't it be easier if the noun for the metal were spelled the way it sounded (led, to rhyme with dead) and the noun for the beginning of a newspaper story were spelled the way it is pronounced (lede, or leed, to rhyme with deed)?"
Others have been less than willing to embrace the new spelling. At The Awl, founder Choire Sicha tore out at those who use lede like it's an affectation:
You schmucks who use ridiculous journo-terms make me crazy! Finally, someone is willing to speak out against the use of “lede” in public. Because, ha ha, sucka, there’s no reason for it! (Plus, MOST OF YOU ARE JUST BLOGGERS.) —Choire Sicha, The Awl, 19 Sept. 2011
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:15 (seven years ago)
Or twete? (xp)
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:15 (seven years ago)
whoops, forgot the link: https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/bury-the-lede-versus-lead
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― Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 13:26 (seven years ago)
sweet corn on the cob
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 18:07 (seven years ago)
public bathroom cubicles the size of a studio apartment
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:15 (seven years ago)
The Americans with Disabilities Act
― devops mom (silby), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:23 (seven years ago)
disturbingly large gaps in cubicle doors
― Number None, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:24 (seven years ago)
nah, I mean things like a bar's toilet being one room with a toilet and a urinal and a sink, and for some reason a dresser, and also enough room for a bed, not an accessible cubicle or two within a series of cubicles, which is not an American thing
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:28 (seven years ago)
Have a Nice Day
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 22:10 (seven years ago)
No concept of the greater good. America’s slogan should be ‘Me and Mine’
― Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Thursday, 19 July 2018 03:17 (seven years ago)
Zero shame
Fire at will
― Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Thursday, 19 July 2018 03:18 (seven years ago)
We are number despite all evidence to the contrary.
― Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Thursday, 19 July 2018 03:19 (seven years ago)