American things

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (1834 of them)

When I was in Manhattan a couple of years ago I said to the guy in a store where I'd just bought a map, "I keep forgetting about the sales tax". His reply: "How do you think we pay for all these wars buddy?"

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 08:00 (eight years ago)

most places in Miami had a 'service fee' and expected a tip!!!

outrageous!!!

Cardigan B (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 08:43 (eight years ago)

When I was in Manhattan a couple of years ago I said to the guy in a store where I'd just bought a map, "I keep forgetting about the sales tax". His reply: "How do you think we pay for all these wars buddy?"

― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:00 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's...not how it works in america but ok

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 11:00 (eight years ago)

It was said w/ some humour, yr honour.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 11:43 (eight years ago)

humor, yr honor ... remember what thread you're in.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 11:45 (eight years ago)

:-)

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 11:57 (eight years ago)

I like having the sales tax factored into the price already, but here's why I don't think it works in the U.S.:

- Different tax rates for different types of food.

- Different tax rates for different municipalities, counties and states.

It's much easier for a company to set a price and let the government add what they want to it rather than trying to work backwards by figuring out what the local tax is and figuring up what your base price will be. Imagine designing a grocery flyer for a six-county metro, saying GROUND CHUCK $3.80/lb and having to have each county try to work out what their real price is going to be.

Here's where I totally expect non-USAers to say WELL WE MANAGE TO SEND OUT OUR FLYERS WITH THE SAME PRICE, but I expect that your taxes are a bit more generalized than our little Balkanized nation of 2000 counties.

pplains, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 13:20 (eight years ago)

just use income tax for state revenues ffs

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 13:46 (eight years ago)

Believe me I wish we would

valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 15:47 (eight years ago)

Know where in the U.S. you can usually find sales tax included in the price of off-the-shelf goods? Liquor stores.

pplains, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 16:33 (eight years ago)

I bought a bottle of booze the other month and it was ~$15 more than the sign said.

Who's looking at or receiving flyers for chains of groceries? If you're selling something in a shop, you can put the price of that item within that shop on the sign in the shop that tells you the price of the item! Instead of a different price that does not actually relate to the price you will pay!!!

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 16:40 (eight years ago)

Who's looking at or receiving flyers for chains of groceries?

Those of us who aren't vagabound adventurers!

https://i.imgur.com/kTcsuVU.jpg

I think the big reason is just the time it takes to figure out the retail cost of an item. Just figure out what the tax is at check out, like everyone else. That way, you won't waste time figuring up the price of items that don't sell.

($15 is a lot more than what anyone should expect though... unless the bottle cost $150.)

pplains, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 16:47 (eight years ago)

PolySci (university course)

I only realized yesterday it is short for Political Science and doesn’t mean “Lots of Science”

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 17:00 (eight years ago)

well, it's "poli sci"

valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 17:05 (eight years ago)

heaps of people write it as polysci

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 17:13 (eight years ago)

heaps of people spell laptop 'labtop'

sleepingbag, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 17:14 (eight years ago)

I think the big reason is just the time it takes to figure out the retail cost of an item. Just figure out what the tax is at check out, like everyone else. That way, you won't waste time figuring up the price of items that don't sell.

this makes absolutely no sense*. if you stock 500 of a successful item, then you're taking the time to figure out the retail cost 500 times at the check out, as opposed to once, at shelving.

one of the most infuriating things about it is the inability to get money ready to pay for your items before reaching the checkout; the amount of time this adds to everyone's transaction, if someone wishes to pay in cash, is enormous. in other countries, if I am buying a small item or three, I can count the money out before reaching an employee, hand it over, and leave. here, so as to not hold up everyone else in the shop, I now have about three kilos of coins that I have to find the time to take to a machine somewhere which will, for a TWELVE PERCENT handling fee, give me a VOUCHER that I can then take elsewhere to exchange for money.

*ie not sure if srs

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:08 (eight years ago)

Do u still not exist enough in America to have a bank acct

valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:09 (eight years ago)

https://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/simpsons-memes-money-can-be-exchanged-for-goods-and-services.jpg

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:55 (eight years ago)

the amount of time this adds to everyone's transaction, if someone wishes to pay in cash, is enormous.

ime waiting for people to use their debit card takes longer than paying with cash.

new noise, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 19:09 (eight years ago)

micromanaging fellow patrons time, just fuck off

brimstead, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 19:12 (eight years ago)

lifehackers must die

brimstead, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 19:13 (eight years ago)

if you stock 500 of a successful item, then you're taking the time to figure out the retail cost 500 times at the check out, as opposed to once, at shelving.

Think about where ever the price is printed though. On the shelf. In advertising. On the board in the window. Oh, and the city held a special election last month to expand the marina and now every single one of those items has to be ticked up half a percent.

Good news though. The sales tax is only temporary which means you'll have to reverse the process in 18 months.

pplains, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 21:26 (eight years ago)

pp you are not effectively arguing for the sensible convenience of the current system

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Thursday, 29 March 2018 02:42 (eight years ago)

I didn't say it made any sense!

A few years ago, our governor wanted to drop the sales tax on food. The ruckus that was raised from concerned retailers about how they would manage to charge one tax for one item and another tax for another item during the same transaction was bonkers. Especially when you showed them how items like beer and wine were already being taxed at different rates than everything else.

But it was like a commerce group filled with George HW Bushes: How will the computer know if someone's buying a plum or plum-flavored candy?

https://i.imgur.com/Ozi8L3I.jpg

The law passed. Food is charged a 2% tax while everything else is more like 9%. Except for beer and wine which are more like 10.5% - Depending on what side of the county you're shopping in.

So again, I'm not saying it can't be done, just listing the "finished" price on the shelf in the first place. But retailers have their reasons.

https://i.imgur.com/PXfKfuN.png

I'm sure you've seen these. Sometimes, retailers just want to let you know how much you're getting screwed.

pplains, Thursday, 29 March 2018 13:41 (eight years ago)

LOL 'recovery fee'

Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Thursday, 29 March 2018 14:12 (eight years ago)

I am 100% pro the sweetened beverage tax except that the other day I was hit with it on a bottle of kombucha with 3g of non-added sugar

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Thursday, 29 March 2018 15:34 (eight years ago)

tax the poor, yeah great idea

brimstead, Thursday, 29 March 2018 15:36 (eight years ago)

It's awful I can't believe we passed this dumbass regressive shit tax

valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 29 March 2018 15:43 (eight years ago)

tax the poor

are you saying Warhol lied to me

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Thursday, 29 March 2018 15:50 (eight years ago)

'Scooter' as a nickname

Dinner at 6pm and cellphones, apparently?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/28/world/americas/french-waiter-rude.html?emc=edit_mbau_20180328&nl=&nlid=7629057220180328&te=1

mor frog bs (S-), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 01:41 (eight years ago)

I’m a proud American whom eats them dinners at 6pm

valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 02:23 (eight years ago)

In the Central time zone, we eat dinners at 5!

pplains, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 03:19 (eight years ago)

three weeks pass...

getting a free t-shirt at a basketball game and wearing that t-shirt because that's in a preferred colour of your team and looks good on tv

Cardigan B (King Boy Pato), Friday, 27 April 2018 13:03 (eight years ago)

even more american things: getting that free t-shirt via the delivery mechanism of a t-shirt cannon

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 April 2018 13:05 (eight years ago)

high level american thing: hot dogs shot out of a t-shirt cannon

Cardigan B (King Boy Pato), Friday, 27 April 2018 13:11 (eight years ago)

getting a free t-shirt at a basketball game and wearing that t-shirt because that's in a preferred colour of your team and looks good on tv


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/20/lakers_gif.gif

El Tomboto, Friday, 27 April 2018 13:33 (eight years ago)

four weeks pass...

gotta stand up for the anthem, hand on your heart because... uh, something about the troops

Cardigan B (King Boy Pato), Friday, 25 May 2018 11:59 (eight years ago)

turkmenbashi things

karl wallogina (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 25 May 2018 12:26 (eight years ago)

well we lost vietnam bc ppl didnt sing the natl anthem loud enough at the super bowls

21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 26 May 2018 00:45 (eight years ago)

18 packages of ketchup and 30 napkins in bag from drive thru

Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Saturday, 26 May 2018 04:12 (eight years ago)

This is a free country so stand the fuck up and put your hand over your heart or else

rip van wanko, Saturday, 26 May 2018 04:15 (eight years ago)

Toilet/shower situations that do not make me wish I was in a different country

rip van wanko, Saturday, 26 May 2018 04:17 (eight years ago)

Clarify please

El Tomboto, Saturday, 26 May 2018 04:22 (eight years ago)

ha... maybe amenities is a better word

rip van wanko, Saturday, 26 May 2018 04:32 (eight years ago)

can't believe that you are made to stand up in the "bathroom" if the anthem is somehow played in there

Cardigan B (King Boy Pato), Saturday, 26 May 2018 12:12 (eight years ago)

Sometimes I eat too many tacos and wind up playing the National Anthem all night.

pplains, Saturday, 26 May 2018 13:48 (eight years ago)

hope you're sitting down

rip van wanko, Saturday, 26 May 2018 15:03 (eight years ago)

We had 5th grade graduation for my kid a couple of weeks ago. Two baller kids refused to stand for the pledge and the anthem. THEY ARE 11 YEAR OLDS. I was so proud.

Me, not even being American, wussed out and stood but I didn’t put my hand on my heart nor did I recite the pledge or sing the anthem (mostly because I don’t know the words to either.)

Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Saturday, 26 May 2018 22:03 (eight years ago)

this is my pledge policy at work ^^^
non-participation, but not making a show of not standing

21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 26 May 2018 22:32 (eight years ago)


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.