[ROCKTOBER 4] darraghmac Appreciation Day

I dont know of it spreading except as pastiche tbrr but others may have other views

it may also be noted that others might advise on the extent to which the cultural nationalism movement rebuilt/revised an gaeilge themselves, maybe not at all as spoken in the rural areas or maybe with some influence, this then to exert its own influence on anglo-irish patterns as described.. I may be misremembering/attributing the extent to which the language had died out or was homogenised from a central source during this process.

Then there is the custom of beginning each sentence, straight off, with a verb, being it only a sort of "'Tis." "Went we to Galway yesterday" would be a paradigm, and "It's we went to Galway yesterday," "It's yesterday we went to Galway," "It's to Galway we went yesterday," would be various alterations of emphasis, with "is"--Irish "is"-- for that inelustable head-verb; hence Synge's "It's cold he is surely," or "It's soon he'd be falling asleep." What's done with syntax needn't be done with voice, and the Irish voice accordingly is free to play its equable tune, under no responsibility for assigning emphasis.

the reason I asked about diffusion into non irish english is that none of those three egs "She has him crying" (She has made him cry); "I put the fear of God on him" (I frightened him severely); "Have it off him" (take it from him). seem that uncommon from where I'm sitting, granted I did grow up around glaswegians but

well you'd have to allow "Gaelic" to stand for "irish" and then there's no question at all of it being the same influence

"O'Nolan's journalistic pseudonym is taken from a character (Myles-na-Coppaleen) in Dion Boucicault's play The Colleen Bawn, who is the stereotypical charming Irish rogue. At one point in the play, he sings the ancient anthem of the Irish Brigades on the Continent, the song "An Crúiscín Lán" (hence the name of the column in the Irish Times).

Capall is the Irish word for "horse" (from Vulgar Latin caballus), and 'een' (spelled ín in Irish) is a diminutive suffix. The prefix na gCapaillín is the genitive plural in his Ulster Irish dialect (the Standard Irish would be "Myles na gCapaillíní"), so Myles na gCopaleen means "Myles of the Little Horses". Capaillín is also the Irish word for "pony", as in the name of Ireland's most famous and ancient native horse breed, the Connemara pony.

O'Nolan himself always insisted on the translation "Myles of the Ponies", saying that he did not see why the principality of the pony should be subjugated to the imperialism of the horse."

just liked how it tied in there at the end.

the xps I'll get to but theyre not common, not as common ime as the examples given in the first post you gave anyway

I'm told btw that German has a similar structure idk if it leads to any similarities in anglo-german what I actually assume is that there is no such idiom as Germans would just learn the grammar properly

its that I'll be striving now to be talking more like this way on ILX since tonight

I think I overtalked wins :(

granted I did grow up around glaswegians but

Double whammy of migration from Ireland (Ulster predominantly) and the Highlands and Western Isles. Was reading recently too about Lowland Gaelic, which was mostly spoken in Dumfries & Galloway, edging into Ayrshire.

I was gonna say you'd be worth consulting on it alright

rly this is a good subject for the Irish thread til we get the ideas of the Midlands cru

http://www.thepoke.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/VaNgQUx-1024x576.jpg

hahaha! love it!

so true!

refrain from fuckin what now?

I am reading a fella atm that has the rural irish ear and thought pattern down pat, I will refer name as and when I put my hand on it again but it seemed relevant to note

that Cavan actor made a show of himself btw, accent was awful. everyone else p impressive

the fella to whom I refer is kevin barry, michael b and number none have mentioned him before now that ive done a search. this book of short stories is pretty much peerless as a description of the rural irish wandering chancer and has made my week.

(aw thx)

nice sn

wha

was rly enjoying the conversation about idiom upthread :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXQHWa5j-YI

btw plan to adopt “mar dhea” into my personal lexicon

it covers an awful lot

darraghmac - elderly irish poster who registers for ILF in february 2053. initially hamstrung by his haphazard vietnamese and total ignorance of the subject of fabergé eggs, darraghmac is cautiously indulged despite his coarse and prejudicial views towards silicon based lifeforms. while insisting that he has never had any interest in or knowledge of fabergé eggs, he tells yarns about a mythical predecessor of ILF where snarky english people argued about the merits of soccerball players and provided an early platform for experimental novelist and 2034 ordre des artes et des lettres inductee phil mcnulty.

― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, August 20, 2012 5:33 PM (3 years ago)

E.N.R.Y. Karl for this one deems la

Will never not lol

deems would u say your social views have become more liberal since moving from connaughtistan to dublin?

No I don't think so.

Ive always been p liberal I'm just cranky

Has the been a discernible shift in your mysterious political stances in yr time on ilx?

not sure how i feel about ilafl's embrace of hitler

― Mordy, Monday, January 18, 2016 6:02 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there does seem to be more of a sort of metropolitan ambience to the deems project these days

maybe social there is more of a politics-of-the-everyday thing than about whether u think cattle rustlers should be beheaded (presuming still a tick for that)

ilx has made me more liberal to the prospect of tolerating executions for many categories of offenders, though whether to go for public private partnerships or fully liberalize the execution market is unclear

It's a tough call for me obv professionally I'm agin the outsourcing of these functions but privately I have my reservations as to the efficiency of their provision from the pool of existing public expertises

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O5rDDvVJwU

top execution?

Dublin has witnessed several gangland feuds over the past decade since the murder of Eamonn 'The Don' Dunne who is believed to have been responsible for the murder of his close friend Martin 'Marlo' Hyland

Kavanagh's father was Gerard 'Hatchet' Kavanagh, who was lured to his death in Spain in September 2014.

It is understood several members of a criminal gang linked to Dublin criminal 'Fat' Freddie Thompson were in the hotel watching the weigh-in when the gunmen opened fire.

why do irish criminals have such basic soubriquets?

U don't speak erse u don't get it

I sit next to a fella his wife is a secretary for the boxing I had live updates on this.

Choinneáil Ar An Meme Beo: Peppa's Erse

http://dublinorganisedcrime1.blogspot.ie/2009/12/sixteen-deaths-linked-to-vicious.html?m=1

I like the current place I'm in but reading through this shit would make you question whether living btwn crumlin and drimnagh is worth the rent haircut

drimnaghmac-10

Been living roundabouts 5+ years and apart from getting some unknown object chucked at my head outside the chipper one evening I've been happily oblivious. You'd have the banter with the youth element of course

I will but I'll be cutting down on it

Started reading and ended up at Johnny Adair.

Jesus we're not far from madness really are we.

village idiot and right-wing cunt darraghmac keeps speaking

― cher guevara (lex pretend)

right-wing?!?

Whyd I think you were stoneybatter BTW or is that previous

xp ya.

me, mordy, couple others, we've disagreed with a cru or two and now it's all labels

I uh I like how you've not questioned a or c in the statement mind