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Great photo

A "Merckx-like" performance in this race from Gilbert apparently.

And Evans is already climbing well. (assuming there were some fit dudes in the race).

W4LTER, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 01:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Clément L'Hottelerie - best name in the peloton?

Mark C, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 13:03 (fifteen years ago) link

paris-nice is approaching!

cutty, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Cyclists and organisers of next week's Paris-Nice stage race have reached agreement over contracts for the event after weeks of uncertainly, team body the AIGCP said Tuesday.

It had looked as if the first major European stage race of the season would go ahead under a cloud after organisers ASO controversially opted to hold it under the aegis of the French federation, and not the International Cycling Union (UCI).

The latter promptly warned sanctions against participants, in the wake of major race organisers, such as Tour de France and Paris-Nice organiser ASO (Amaury Sports Organisation), splitting from the UCI's Pro Tour series amid a complex contractual dispute.

AIGCP said the ASO had accepted to make some changes to team contracts for the race, where 17 ProTour teams and 20 in all will take part.

"My role was to present the 20 team principals with two questions," explained Eric Boyer, chairman of AIGCP, who warned the UCI "it would be a mistake" to suspend any rider taking part in next week's event.

"First, do you intend to participate in the Paris-Nice? The reply was unanimously 'yes.'

"Then, do you accept the contractual conditions? There, it was a question of 'yes, but.' So we asked for some amendments to the contract."

Those will include acceptance that the French Olympic conciliation body CNOSF can step in as arbiter in the event of disagreements.

"The decision of the teams to participate in the Paris-Nice is linked to their wish to guarantee the interests of their sponsors as well as their sporting interests and those of their riders," an AIGCP statement read.

The AIGCP also called on all parties concerned to engage in a "structured dialogue" to prevent a repeat of the fallout which has marred the run-up to the race.

Mark C, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link

where is cutty's race thread

gbx, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 00:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Was there already a thread? sry!

Cipo should be interesting in Sanremo. That team is pretty ridiculous.

W4LTER, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 00:49 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean they look ridic.

W4LTER, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 00:49 (fifteen years ago) link

no i meant a thread about cutty's racing

gbx, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 01:07 (fifteen years ago) link

i should start one. race #2 is saturday.

cutty, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 01:13 (fifteen years ago) link

anything cipo does is ridic, including telling michael ball he wants control of the team

cutty, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 01:13 (fifteen years ago) link

lol yeah and he's got his own bike and shit.

W4LTER, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 01:14 (fifteen years ago) link

W4LTER, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 02:15 (fifteen years ago) link

yes and telling michael ball he will only ride his own mystery bike

cutty, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 02:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Evans wins Ventoux stage in Paris-Nice, i hav stiff bonerz.

W4LTER, Thursday, 13 March 2008 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Friend of mine has made an outlook csv of all Pro cycling this year:

have fun

Ed, Friday, 14 March 2008 12:24 (fifteen years ago) link

also this picture rules:

cutty, Thursday, 20 March 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

i keep imagining that vaughters got his team into the TdF like this:

prudhomme: "monsieur vaughters, your team is not distinctive among the array of pro continental teams, and aso, we prefer to have a greater presence of ze local french riders."

v: "remember how you kicked me out the tour after that bee sting? YOU OWE ME BEYOTCH, BIG TIME!"

p: "ha, so true!"

Hunt3r, Friday, 21 March 2008 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

right Cancellara won Milano Sanremo. Guy is a true fucking animal.

Also lol @ Hunt$r.

W4LTER, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 02:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Is Cancellara going to do any of the Olympic events, do we know?

Mark C, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 10:55 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah his win was pretty fucking inspiring. those guys could not gain an inch on him!

cutty, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 12:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I know this isn't Road but can we have a quick WOOOOOOO!!!! For Team GB at the track worlds: 9 Golds and counting.

Ed, Saturday, 29 March 2008 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah that's awesome. The pursuit record. Australia disappointing :/

wilter, Monday, 31 March 2008 01:50 (fifteen years ago) link

lolers at breach of contract allegation that greg lemond is sustaining himself by illegal bro-deals of his bikes. this guy = train wreck.

also at trek's site is lemonds complaint, which is equally fun trainspotting

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

wow. cutty, let this be a lesson. hes lucky he just vaulted instead of hitting something.

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

(not that youd ever do that, cutty)

i almost took a 4 person break directly into a dumpster once, but the guy behind me screamed just in time. i think my eyeballs were actually rolling back in my head from the effort or something.

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 17:45 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i saw that whilst watching the race. fucking ouch ouch.

loling at the lemond fiasco. employee pricing! hahaha

cutty, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link

one of my favorite pics ever

cutty, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...


that race is a blast to do, but it does have some sick tight descents in it. i think kent bostick broke his leg coming down from pinos altos several years ago during Gila.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i read that article last night. scary, i had a 2 mile, 50mph descent last saturday and another huge one coming up this sunday :/

cutty, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link

there is a v. popular descent used in the Carter Lake rd race that is low-mid 50s and VERY wind exposed, one of the masters women died a few years ago going off the cliff in crosswind.

cutty you should check out doing gila when make 3s. its a good 5 day race. (the 4s only do 3 days).

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link

you've done it? nice. i plan on upgrading to 3 by end of summer, hopefully. i already have 2 points.

cutty, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link

there's the green mountain stage race here in the northeast which i am seriously considering doing. mad points up in there.

cutty, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

cutty, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey Hunter and Cutty, I don't imagine there'll be a lot of peloton riding in my ride to Paris in a couple of months, but are there lots of rules and safety considerations to learn?

Mark C, Thursday, 8 May 2008 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

(it's not a race, there won't be sprints etc., but we may well at least partly travel in a big group, for safety as much as anything, and I'd hate to ride badly or wrongly)

Mark C, Thursday, 8 May 2008 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

ride a straight line
dont dont overlap wheels

^these two things are what you rly need

stay off the brakes
dont speed up when you hit the front of the line, just hold yr speed
try to take yr pulls, make it shorter if you have to
if you can SAFELY point out a hazard well before you get there, do so
if youre in a really big scrum and flat, its nice to put yr hand up, call it, and safely drift over/back to get out of the way
if you have to spit, snotrocket or sneeze, get the hell out of line plz (in races, this is not really feasible, and in result racing can be really gross)

knowing the general rotations and which way to run the lines might help (you pull off on the windward side) (most ppl who get all bent out of shape on this matter in touring rides are total dorks ime)

Hunt3r, Thursday, 8 May 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

if yr in line on a hill, and it looks like people are starting to stand on the pedals, give yourself a little extra space. if that guy in front of you stands, he basically moves his bike 1 foot back towards yr front wheel.

Hunt3r, Thursday, 8 May 2008 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link

if someone doesn't look like they know what theyre doing, get far away from them. squirrelly riders usually dont improve in the course of one ride.

yelling at people, even if theyre insufferable and u r awesomes, is a speedy way to become unpopular, just like in life.

Hunt3r, Thursday, 8 May 2008 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks Hunter as ever.

Mark C, Friday, 9 May 2008 13:21 (fifteen years ago) link

those are all the good points. standing when the guy in front of you stands is also great. cause if he stands and cause a wheel overlap you are bound to touch his wheel

cutty, Friday, 9 May 2008 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link

craigslist. for when yr girlfriends have got smart and dumped yr scrawny asses after realizing you love yr fantasies of cycling greatness more'n them

Hunt3r, Friday, 9 May 2008 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Belgian super star sprinter, Tom Boonen has allegedly been caught in an out of competition test for cocaine, according to Belgian newspaper The out of competition test allegedly occurred three days before start of the Tour of Belgium, where Boonen won the final stage.

The Belgian paper also reported that the homes of Boonen's parents and girlfriend in Postel and Lore respectively were searched last night. The non-negative test has also not yet been confirmed by the UCI. Boonen's Quick Step team was unavailable for comment at the time of going to press.

This is not the first time that Boonen has been linked to the drug. Last December, his good friend and cyclo-cross star, Tom Vanoppen was caught by the Flemish doping controllers with cocaine. During questioning Vanoppen allegedly named Boonen as his dealer, a claim Boonen later denied. Following the claim, Boonen's parent's house was searched.


wilter, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 03:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Apparently unlikely he'll get suspended. So now McEwen won't win any stages in the tour.

wilter, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link

cutty, Thursday, 19 June 2008 14:16 (fifteen years ago) link

apparently i have a crueller sense of lolz than you

Hunt3r, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link


cutty, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link

that's because you don't race anymore!

cutty, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link

i kill on the bike path tho

maybe ill try to shoulder some granny into cherry creek then

Hunt3r, Thursday, 19 June 2008 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Always wondered where they got those small cans of coke on HC mountain passes from.

Oh wait, that was Coca Cola.

King Boy Pato, Saturday, 21 June 2008 06:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Now Mosquera and Garcia busted for doping in the Vuelta:

Running the Gantelope (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 30 September 2010 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link

thought i heard someone down there saying contador had gone pos, lolol

coincidentally here is spain's ll cool sanchez, possibly my one good photo:

astronomy broheems (haitch), Friday, 1 October 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link

nice snap!

Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Friday, 1 October 2010 01:07 (thirteen years ago) link

i got kinda caught up with cheering them all on to take properly good pics - lots of pro photographers around there in the way too.

i did get a few that aren't quite as exciting, here's dave z:

astronomy broheems (haitch), Friday, 1 October 2010 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link

millar just leaving start ramp:

astronomy broheems (haitch), Friday, 1 October 2010 01:20 (thirteen years ago) link


fabian - wish i'd clicked a fraction later, awesome to see him in full flight

astronomy broheems (haitch), Friday, 1 October 2010 01:24 (thirteen years ago) link

not a fan of the sky kits, but these union jack kits are rad.

Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Friday, 1 October 2010 05:42 (thirteen years ago) link

TayPhin is first racer to podium both events at worlds!?!?!

Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Friday, 1 October 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Kinda digging this bike:

Would look dope in white though. :-P

Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Friday, 1 October 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link

i thot one article said he was the 6th racer to do that? xpost

my stomach is full of anger. and pie. (Hunt3r), Friday, 1 October 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry, first U23 rider.

Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Friday, 1 October 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link



the brostep hump (haitch), Sunday, 3 October 2010 05:36 (thirteen years ago) link


yuoowemeone, Sunday, 3 October 2010 06:55 (thirteen years ago) link

v exciting finish

yuoowemeone, Sunday, 3 October 2010 06:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Just watched it. I thought Evans was fantastic.

Running the Gantelope (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 3 October 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link


(just catching up now)

(idiot BBC commentators aided by idiot aussie OB team managed to miss Gilbert being caught)

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 3 October 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Amgen Tour of California stage cities announced:

I'll definitely be at the stages within driving range (Solvang, Baldy, Thousand Oaks).

sous les paves, Thursday, 7 October 2010 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link

the funniest thing is the Leipheimer holds a Gran Fondo to help Santa Rosa raise $175k to secure Santa Rosa as a stage in the tour.

registration alone for the event totals $680k which is massive.

so i was quite surprised to see the tour skip Santa Rosa this year, where is that money going exactly?

no sf stage, closest thing is livermore to san jose (no thanks).

are you in the 805 sous les paves?

Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 7 October 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I have put thursday through sunday in my calendar and currently flights into Santa Barbara and out of Burbank look reasonable. Might book this on payday.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 7 October 2010 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Question: Is it possible to do this European style and camp out beside the road, at least on the mountain stages?

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 7 October 2010 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Of the three SoCal stages, the only mountain stage is the Claremont to Mt. Baldy stage, which appears to be a HC TT as that is only about 12 miles long. That is a pretty remote area so they will more than likely allow camping but I can't guarantee that. Solvang is will be the site of the ITT, leaving the Santa Clarita - Thousand Oaks finale the only proper road stage. There are a couple hills on that route (I assume they'll head out toward the coast along the 126 and then cut through either Moorpark, Fillmore or Santa Rosa Valley to get to TO) but nothing too dramatic.

Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 7 October 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm figuring on a nice long weekend of good food, good wine with occasional bursts of cycling. Proper TdF style.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 7 October 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha, well, this area is a bit of step down culinarily from France but there is decent wine to be had.

Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 7 October 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

step up from Pittsburgh, step up.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 7 October 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Quite frankly I crave the novelty of Trader Joe's two buck chuck and a salad without french fries in.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 7 October 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I bought an amazing bottle of wine in Solvang about 5 years ago. Sorry, that's not much help, is it.

Mark C, Thursday, 7 October 2010 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Levi has gotta be half happy / sad with the route. On one hand Santa Rosa gets punked, on the other, the course looks very much like it was designed to get Levi the jersey again. Looks like the strategy will be: 1) Win Solvang TT, 2) cover attacks on Baldy the next day, 3) win.

xxp shasta: I'm in North San Diego County so it'll be a long drive, but doable nonetheless.

sous les paves, Friday, 8 October 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Nice. I spent 3 years in North SD County close to 20 years ago.

Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Friday, 8 October 2010 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link

when i was growing up, my stepdad would go to solvang to ride in these centuries
ha, this looks kinda like shasta

went up to santa ynez last year to wine taste and ate at this restaurant. it was pretty amazing.

jaxon, Friday, 8 October 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Loved the Commonwealth Games road race (men's) - anyone else see it? No spoilerz just in case.

Mark C, Sunday, 10 October 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Was at the in-laws' this weekend, so I saw about ten minutes of the road race on a TV in a giant Tesco's. I saw Millar in a small leading group and Cavendish leading some others up to them, but frustratingly there was no information on how much further they had to race so I had to call it a day there (otherwise my wife might have become frustrated if I stayed in the supermarket for three hours).

Running the Gantelope (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 10 October 2010 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link

i missed it - was entertaining the parents at that point of the evening instead!

the brostep hump (haitch), Sunday, 10 October 2010 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link

local paper has gone with 'alby beats hot dogs to take gold' as the headline. he was looking pretty out of shape earlier in the year, but jeez!

the brostep hump (haitch), Sunday, 10 October 2010 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @ that headline

yuoowemeone, Monday, 11 October 2010 06:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Interesting interview with Wiggins, basically admitting they fucked up this year:

Running the Gantelope (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 11 October 2010 13:51 (thirteen years ago) link

he hung round to help the rest of the team after the road race, too.

saw the last hour or so of lombardy last night - gilbert just destroyed everyone in filthy conditions.

battery hen fap (haitch), Sunday, 17 October 2010 12:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Stage finish on the Galibier?

Running the Gantelope (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Read something about how the Vuelta's influence is leading to a decline in the ITT as a component of le Tour. TTT is always nice though.

i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

No prologue either, with a sprinter unfriendly bump on the run in to the finish of the first stage.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

wanna see them copy the giro's weirdo itt from a couple of years ago in cinque terre - a looooooong (1.5 hrs), hilly, dodgy road course for road bikes. cancellara dropped out to avoid- rather than disrupt his preparations BAWK BAWK.

my stomach is full of anger. and pie. (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Points system for sprints and KoM are radically different this year.


45 points for a stage win up from 40
Intermediate sprints now carry 20 points with points down to 15th place and only one intermediate per stage


Only mountaintop finishes will carry double points not last climb of the day
Only top six get points for HC, 1, 2 and 3 category climbs
Only first rider gets points for 4th cat climbs

Sprints is most interesting its going to shake up the breakaway dynamic on flat stages, either people wont' get away or big names will have to go if they want to wear green.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

giro '11 route. mt etna!

for all, in tents and porpoises (haitch), Sunday, 24 October 2010 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link

That is pretty savage. Colle delle Finestre on the penultimate day before a last day time trial is pretty savage. route should make for an interesting race and should dissuade anyone from thinking the Giro is good preparation for the tour.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 25 October 2010 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link

al capone charged with tax evasion.

potholes and esso assos (Hunt3r), Saturday, 30 October 2010 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
three weeks pass...

Mario Cipollini thinks the current peleton is full of girly men.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 10 December 2010 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

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