"serious" cyclists rocking skateboard helmets

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gbx i hope you don't do this

cutty, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 13:56 (fifteen years ago) link

they r so heavy, even I don't get it

coz (webinar), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link

phony society- WE REJECT YOUR FALSE VALUES

honesty is not ordinary to the height of the bunny hop (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link

guys do you know about 'stack hats', they were the big thing here in the '80s among thee kids

lad: "et tu, lady?" (haitch), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link

how about "serious" cyclists rocking no helmets?
aint it about protecting the melon, then?

let the glory boy mr. henry have it on rye (jdchurchill), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link

cutty no i do not, i wear a normal helmet that needs new padding around the perimeter, it's all scratchy velcro right now

how rad bandit (gbx), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i will accept bmx and dh and w/e dudes wearing skate helmets, tho

how rad bandit (gbx), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link

but riding, in the city, in the summer??? pleaaaaaase

how rad bandit (gbx), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link

my helmet is a cross between a skate helmet and a real helmet. i love it.

I Endorse He-Horse (ytth), Thursday, 22 October 2009 02:51 (fifteen years ago) link

haitch, my (Australian) girlfriend was telling me about stack hats last night! I'm going with her to Oz in March and was wondering about cycling, and she told me about the helmet laws etc and then had a rant against the 80s stack hat stylins. Now I can understand what she means!

Skateboard helmets are heavy and underventilated, right? Why would you?

Mark C, Thursday, 22 October 2009 10:20 (fifteen years ago) link

nyc "bike culture" fixed gear kids won't wear a real cycling helmet

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 10:22 (fifteen years ago) link

if they're wearing anything at all its usually a skateboard helmet

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 10:23 (fifteen years ago) link

lol mark, anyone brought up here who was within 100ft of a bike would've had one. ironically i have a feeling they were proved unsafe a while ago!!

lad: "et tu, lady?" (haitch), Thursday, 22 October 2009 13:25 (fifteen years ago) link

prob has something to do w/the fact that cycling helmets are super dumb lookin?

ice cr?m, Thursday, 22 October 2009 13:29 (fifteen years ago) link

i, personally, am fine with lookin superdumb if it protects the insides of the head from being scrambled.

still, stackhats, there ARE limits. i know u all feel me on this one.

lad: "et tu, lady?" (haitch), Thursday, 22 October 2009 13:34 (fifteen years ago) link

prob has something to do w/the fact that cycling helmets are super dumb lookin?

grow up

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 13:50 (fifteen years ago) link

just sayin they look funny thats why people wear the other helmets - its pretty simple - i can understand thinking the skate helmets are stupid but on the other hand bike helmets are ugly - so there you go

ice cr?m, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:12 (fifteen years ago) link

gotta say i find the skater helmet somewhat displeasing to the eye

lad: "et tu, lady?" (haitch), Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link

it's the same reaction i get when people are so turned off by lycra like it's AIDS

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

suggested to my sister (who's just borrowed a bike off her boyfriend's mum) that she may want to invest in some knicks for longer rides. "OH I'D RATHER DIE." whatever, chafe on then!

lad: "et tu, lady?" (haitch), Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

exactly. wtf?

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link

it's like there's a fear that you look like you're trying, or something!

also i am a happy convert to the bibs lately.

lad: "et tu, lady?" (haitch), Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I really want to get a summer bib, I love my winter bib tights.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/b/0/0/13/6/AAAAC6BbWHkAAAAAABNliQ.jpg

does this count?

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link

that lazer commuter helmet is pretty weird looking imo.

cialis morissette (goole), Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link

some ppl need to avoid lycra like its aids rly

honesty is not ordinary to the height of the bunny hop (Hunt3r), Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link

it's like there's a fear that you look like you're trying, or something!

totally

how rad bandit (gbx), Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

cycling outfits are some of the most ridiculous looking clothes ever in the history of civilization - totally fine w/me if you want to wear them for the functionality - my running shoes look like spaceships - but pretending that you have no idea why someone might not want to look like that to the point that you need to impugn their motivation is just willfully clueless

ice cr?m, Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link

how are they ridiculous? shorts and a jersey. basketball uniforms are less ridiculous because they are baggy and not form fitting?

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link

football uniforms are less ridiculous how? they wear tights.

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

most ridiculous looking clothes ever in the history of civilization

also watch your hyperbole dude

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link

i only impugn the motivation of people that want to go on long, exercisey bike rides but then don't like it because they got sweaty in their normal clothes and under their unventilated helmet

also, w/r/t helmets specifically: yeah, i sorta ~do think that choosing between skate/normal helmet on the grounds of looks is a decision that hinges on whether or not someone wants to look like a "biker," not that skate helmets are inherently less ridiculous looking. because, as demonstrated here, bikers are snobby tools who don't want you in their club, and if you've got an areo-looking speed helmet you'd better be able to match it with SPEED and SERIOUSNESS

no matter what, you're going to end up with some plasticky blob on your head, may as well get the one that FEELS the least like you've got a plasticky blob on your head

how rad bandit (gbx), Thursday, 22 October 2009 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link

making the choice to wear a helmet in general is a big step. but once that decision is made, i am amazed that some people are just like--"YEAH, I'LL START WEARING A HELMET-BUT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WILL I WEAR A CYCLING HELMET. TAKE THAT!"

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link

skate helmets: meant to withstand multiple impacts because u r crashin all the time

bike helmets: meant to withstand ONE much, much more massive impact

if your doing tricks and falling over or generally just ringing your bell a lot, get a skate helmet

if you want to be comfortable on the way to work, get a bike helmet. they're both gonna fuck up your hair, and make you look like a spaceman when you go into the store, who cares

how rad bandit (gbx), Thursday, 22 October 2009 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe all the nyc fixies are on their way to an imaginary halfpipe

am0n, Thursday, 22 October 2009 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link

if your doing tricks and falling over or generally just ringing your bell a lot, stop riding a bike

^ fixed

am0n, Thursday, 22 October 2009 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

how rad bandit (gbx), Thursday, 22 October 2009 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link

loved it when the womens' b-ball league out here mandated the use of lycra suits

my friend who played in the leage at that time, i think she was loving it a good deal less

lad: "et tu, lady?" (haitch), Thursday, 22 October 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Spandex" is a generic name and not derived from the chemical name of the fiber, as are most manufactured fibers, but an anagram of the word expands.[1] "Spandex" is the preferred name in North America; in many European countries it is referred to as "elastane".

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

omg surfers look sooooooooo ridiculous. i'm totally going surfing this weekend, but you sure as shit ain't gonna find me in a fucking wetsuit.

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Apparel and clothing articles where stretch is desired, generally for comfort and fit, such as:
athletic, aerobic, and exercise apparel
wetsuits
swimsuits/bathing suits
competitive swimwear
netball bodysuits
bra straps and side panels
ski pants
disco jeans
slacks
hosiery
leggings
socks
diapers
skinny jeans
belts
underwear
dance belts worn by male ballet dancers and others

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link

guys, competitive swimmers wear lycra bikini bottoms and shave their entire body.

(not really true they wear those "controversial" body suits now)

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 22 October 2009 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link

are they for real with 'disco jeans', please say yes

lad: "et tu, lady?" (haitch), Thursday, 22 October 2009 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link

mind blown:

In comic books, superheroes and superheroines commonly wear costumes thought to be made of spandex. However, early superhero comics predate the invention of spandex (Superman: 1938; Batman: 1939; Captain America: 1941). Printing processes for early color comics only rendered images with distinctly separate solid blocks of color well, because overprinting and color mixing yielded inconsistent results and bad looking muddy colors. Because spandex is skintight, as many superhero costumes appear to be drawn, and because spandex is almost exclusively made in similarly bright solid colors, the after-the-fact assumption of spandex composition was made. The same assumption of costume composition is also made for latex and rubber garments, which are also typically solid in color and skin-tight.

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link

i think i told this story before on ILX but my tri uniform (way back when) bottoms were navy blue speedos that had the Bud Light logo across the crotch and I asked my coach if I he had any regular Bud ones.

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 22 October 2009 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link

mind blown:

In comic books, superheroes and superheroines commonly wear costumes thought to be made of spandex. However, early superhero comics predate the invention of spandex (Superman: 1938; Batman: 1939; Captain America: 1941). Printing processes for early color comics only rendered images with distinctly separate solid blocks of color well, because overprinting and color mixing yielded inconsistent results and bad looking muddy colors. Because spandex is skintight, as many superhero costumes appear to be drawn, and because spandex is almost exclusively made in similarly bright solid colors, the after-the-fact assumption of spandex composition was made. The same assumption of costume composition is also made for latex and rubber garments, which are also typically solid in color and skin-tight.

― cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 11:30 (53 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Surely they wore wool, just like cyclists and swimmers of the day.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 22 October 2009 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link

and helmets wld be nice?

honesty is not ordinary to the height of the bunny hop (Hunt3r), Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean laurel i get that, and will zip to my sister's house v occasionally w/o helmet, but most of the time i'm like wait it is just not that onerous to wear a helmet for five minutes as i ride somewhere

i will make exceptions, tho: i live 50m from a cross-town bike path that runs pretty much to the door of a good venue (triple rock). if i didn't want to keep track of a helmet at a show, i'd feel OK going without

how rad bandit (gbx), Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah on the one hand, there's a huge change with parenting and kids and helmet safety. my nieces don't get on the barbie bike to go up and down the block w/o the pink bell from target, whereas i went all over hell and gone on my haro fsx as a young lad w/o anything on my head but the sunshine.

on the other hand, this is what they always said about soccer. all the kids are playing it! it's gonna take over!! since the young end of today's hipsters were born in the EARLY 90s (this is somewhat horrifying to me btw) you'd think the change wd already be visible

anyway i guess i'm talking about helmet vs no helmet, no the wearing of skate helmets which is a fashiony cop-out obv

cialis morissette (goole), Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link

skate helmets are "i heard about that one guy who got clipped by a delivery van last fall, but i am definitely not one of those fakeass livestrong middle manager fuckfaces"

cialis morissette (goole), Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

ice craem styles

lad: "et tu, lady?" (haitch), Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link

lol i do luv the king of the mountains jersey

ice cr?m, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

theres a study that shows that the barometer of a community's cycling friendliness is direct correlation w/ the % of women on bikes. if that's relevant to the point about ppl being averse to hardcore cyclists.

― honesty is not ordinary to the height of the bunny hop (Hunt3r), Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:09 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

while there may be some aversion to serious cyclists - its more that like 95% of bikes and gear are designed for intense usage - theyll by like one of those cruiser bikes where u sit all upright thatre everywhere in europe in a bike store - and if some noob goes into the store to buy one theyll feel all intimidated - even if its not warranted

tho i think the fact that its way more dangerous to ride yr bike in america than europe is a much bigger factor - if there were bike lanes seperated by barriers everywhere in new york i have no doubt youd see a surge in casual riders just commuting or gogin to the movies or whatever

ice cr?m, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

ha my old teammate is in the photo spread. in full skinsuit. PRO.

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link

we need shit like this http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/09/bike-lanes-in-saxony.php

ice cr?m, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link

my friends' bike shop is female owned/operated and has at least 2 females working at all times which is dope imo. ALSO: 0% snob culture. they also carry the "sickest" designs in the area, (ie, even ddb is a fan from 3k miles away).

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link

ddb is a case in point

dude would never wear shorts. then it was--ok, i'll wear lycra shorts, but i'll never wear a bibs. now he wears bibs, jersey, and shaves his legs.

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link

:-O

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link

cutty you were probably a case in point too tho right????

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

i have found bike store ppl to be a mix of snob and evangelist -- there's a lot of lingo but they're happy to have you get into it on any level. buying any kind of bike gear as a noob is way more pleasant and informative than buying anything car related.

cialis morissette (goole), Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

since you reference yglesias blog-- thats where i saw ref to that study (i can not speak to its merits)

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/10/bicycling-and-gender.php

honesty is not ordinary to the height of the bunny hop (Hunt3r), Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link

i was never derisive of lycra, i just didn't ride enough to necessitate wearing it

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link

once i was putting in more than an hour in the saddle at a time, i started wearing the gear

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

and never once did i consider wearing a skateboard helmet to protect my coolness

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

were u always helmeted?

honesty is not ordinary to the height of the bunny hop (Hunt3r), Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

nope, i was riding a brakeless track bike without a helmet through red lights wearing jeans

then i joined fixed-gear anonymous, a recovery group for idiots

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link

nope, i was riding a brakeless track bike without a helmet through red lights wearing jeans

in clipless pedals iirc

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link

without a helmet through red lights wearing jeans

lol that's me except i have brakes n gears ;)

am0n, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah. i came from recreational MTB so i was already used to clipless pedals and found clips and straps didn't give me the power or control i wanted.

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link

http://star.txstate.edu/content/fixed-gear-biking-just-useless-fad

cutty, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:45 (fifteen years ago) link

that is gold

honesty is not ordinary to the height of the bunny hop (Hunt3r), Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

as much as i enjoy baggin on some fixies

hey GET OFF MY LAWN!

honesty is not ordinary to the height of the bunny hop (Hunt3r), Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Is fixed gear so bad? The trends are horrible, but you don't have to wear all the crap. And there's no reason not to have two brakes. I know we've had the discussion elsewhere, but I find mine nice to ride and relatively low maintenance. And it leaves my road bike nice and fresh for out of town rides on my days off.

I know that some of that argument is slightly disingenuous - clipless, brakeless cyclists weaving selfishly through understandably peeved pedestrians is the more usual look, but - there is another way.

As for clothing -

I used to treasure my long sleeved woollen CTC top, until it became unwearable. T-shirt and lycra shorts for long rides in the summer. Leggings/tights in the winter, and a peaked hat with ear flaps that makes me look like far more of an idiot than any helmet ever would, but which keeps my ears warm and most importantly, keeps the rain off my glasses. And a very nice long sleeve Rapha top that I got as a Christmas present a couple of years ago that is really warm but not sweaty.

Oh and a gore-tex jacket. And gloves. My hands get freezing. Overshoes for long rides. Because my toes get even colder than my fingers.

GamalielRatsey, Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link

cycling gear is goofy looking, no shit. big-ass helmets and tight lycra; hardly hitting the style blogs w/tht get up. but the rub is: ur exercising; if u care abt wht u look like while ur exercising then ur pretty silly

pineapple expressionist (webinar), Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I look pretty good in lycra

/confession

Mark C, Friday, 23 October 2009 10:23 (fifteen years ago) link

today i rolled into downtown thinking on this, "i dont really think i see too much of this phenomenon. maybe its a nyc/big city thing. i'll keep my eyes out for it." the NEXT GUY I SAW, 15 secs later. flat bar fixie 20something.

honesty is not ordinary to the height of the bunny hop (Hunt3r), Friday, 23 October 2009 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link

ha!

cutty, Friday, 23 October 2009 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link

"cycling gear is goofy looking, no shit. big-ass helmets and tight lycra; hardly hitting the style blogs w/tht get up. but the rub is: ur exercising; if u care abt wht u look like while ur exercising then ur pretty silly"

This is the truth. But it's also why, when riding for the purpose of transportation around town, you're allowed to wear normal, good-looking clothes.

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Friday, 23 October 2009 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link

you've reversed the argument

cutty, Friday, 23 October 2009 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link

It's a rhetorical trick.

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Friday, 23 October 2009 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Er I mean, to be more serious, that I would understand there being different modes of riding, one of which is exclusively for exercise, over long distances, for which it's more important to be comfortable than stylish, and another is your basic short-distance, low-pressure around-town riding, for which you want to look good at your destination.
I'm taking it as a given that most spandex riding gear is not stylish. The stuff on the link you posted above actually looked pretty good, but it's still "stylish biking clothing" and not "stylish clothing." Like I wouldn't just wear it out to the bar or whatever.
And it's expensive!

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Friday, 23 October 2009 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link

And yes, both modes of riding demand a helmet (at least in the city), and skate helmets seem like a weird bet-hedge.

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Friday, 23 October 2009 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link

imo its ok to look sexy while exercising

ice cr?m, Friday, 23 October 2009 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link

poxymoron

coz (webinar), Friday, 23 October 2009 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

cycling gear is goofy looking, no shit. big-ass helmets and tight lycra; hardly hitting the style blogs w/tht get up.

i doubt you'll be hitting any style blog in the near future but yeah I'm rocking my new PAUL SMITH/RAPHA kit for tomorrow's century ride dawg.

tite
http://www.kitmeout.com/img_assets/paul-smith-jeans.jpg

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Friday, 23 October 2009 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

in black btw

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Friday, 23 October 2009 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link

tht's me in the picture, so - pwned

coz (webinar), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm white btw

coz (webinar), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link

(nice)

coz (webinar), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link

rapha condor man and brit road race champ k. house was rocking the all-white kit last week. not down with the white shorts as a rule but it was working for him!

lad: "et tu, lady?" (haitch), Friday, 23 October 2009 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link

eah I'm rocking my new PAUL SMITH/RAPHA kit for tomorrow's century ride dawg.

tite

― ♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Friday, October 23, 2009 1:41 PM

pink union jacks? cryingeagle.jpg

am0n, Friday, 23 October 2009 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link

well its paul smith, i'm just happy there aren't tonal stripes everywhere tbh

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Friday, 23 October 2009 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

fixed-gear-biking-just-useless-fad:
"yeah no brakes, 1 gear, been there and done that when I was 3 whatever"
ha!

graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave architecture (jdchurchill), Friday, 23 October 2009 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link

im sympathetic to the fixie hate but one cool thing is how easy they are to maintain

ice cr?m, Friday, 23 October 2009 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link

fixed gear bikes are great imo.

for one thing they've almost killed off ppl on mtn bikes in the city.

honesty is not ordinary to the height of the bunny hop (Hunt3r), Friday, 23 October 2009 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link

i aint tryin to hate on fixies
i just think thats funny

graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave architecture (jdchurchill), Friday, 23 October 2009 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link


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