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ok, in the wake of my car crash as detailed on that one thread you may or may not have read, I've decided I want me a bicicleta. I don't plan on taking it off-road. I got lots of hills to deal with, so geariness is a must. I don't have much money to spend. This one caught my eye: http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/bik/701648280.html

The Reverend, Saturday, 31 May 2008 11:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

all advice welcome of course

The Reverend, Saturday, 31 May 2008 11:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

I should add that I haven't ridden a bike since I was maybe 14 and don't know shit about anything.

The Reverend, Saturday, 31 May 2008 11:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

Motobecane were pretty decent, we used to be a dealer. they weren't anything like high-end, but they were well-made, solid machines. IIRC they used to sub-contract their frame-building to small rural shops in France.

The downside to buying such a bike is that if it has its original gear on it, and you need to replace EG a sprocket cluster, you can wind up having to replace a bunch of other stuff as the newer gear is incompatible. In an extreme case, it could have something long-obsolete like a helicomatic block, which = new rear wheel time when the chain & block wear out. OTOH, if it's not too worn, there could be miles in it yet.

Best advice is take someone who knows about bikes, and who isn't a latest/high-end gear fetsihist w/you and get them to look at it.

Pashmina, Saturday, 31 May 2008 12:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

Rev, you're at least 6 foot tall, right? That bike is probably ideal for the kind of 6'1" range. Also, 10 speed might not be enough if there are a lot of hills of varying steepness - well, it'll be enough, but not ideal probably.

I used to have a motobecane, years ago, and I liked it. That's a classy looking bike.

Mark C, Saturday, 31 May 2008 12:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

6'0, but close enough. I don't think I'm really in for anything too steep, but I definitely need to go up as well as down.

The problem with your suggestion, Pash, (which is otherwise completely solid) is that I don't know any bike people. At any rate, this is more a temporary fix than anything. Something to help me get around until I save up enough money to buy a car and maybe provide me with some recreation afterward. If it doesn't last forever, that's alright.

The Reverend, Saturday, 31 May 2008 18:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

At that price, it's possible there will be fundamental problems with the bike, hence why it'd be good to have someone who can spot them with you. You can of course ask the seller to explain the flaws to you, but most of all you'll need to take a test ride - try out the brakes, all the gears, feel for warped wheels, listen for odd noises etc.

I dunno, I'm not nearly as knowledgeable as Pash (or indeed most other posters on this thread - Laurel in particular will know a lot I'd guess), but at this kind of price I'd be worried that fatigue and general wear and tear might have compromised the integrity of bits of the bike you don't want failing on you.

Mark C, Saturday, 31 May 2008 19:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

Thanks. I'll definitely check for all those things.

The Reverend, Saturday, 31 May 2008 20:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm still a beginner at bike stuff, but the shop I occasionally volunteer in does specialize in used and donated bikes, so I know nothing about new tech but have been taught a little about looking at old bikes.

When you go to see the bike, take a metal ruler or something that you know has a perfectly straight, rigid edge. Get a good look at all the tubes to make sure they're still straight; if the bike's been in an accident or had the frame bent, you prob won't want it. Use the metal edge if yr suspicious but can't tell by eye. Esp check from the back to see that the seat- and chain-stays are still straight, if any are bent it'll throw the whole rear alignment off.

To check for bends in the steerer tube, hold the bike by the handlebars and turn them as far as you can in either direction. They should move smoothly with the same resistance all the way. If if seems tighter when you rotate to the side, something in there could be damaged as well.

Check the paint for places that look creased, crumpled...not normal scratches as much as kind of...directional damage. It could hide a crack underneath or just show that the tube has been stressed by impact.

Pash, you're the expert, what else do you recommend?

Laurel, Saturday, 31 May 2008 20:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

I don't know, if you're looking for a no-hassle bike and have little experience with bike upkeep, a vintage bike might not be the way to go. Especially considering the low price of that bike ($75 definitely suggests that it might be a project), you can safely assume that little has been done in the way of upkeep on that bike. You can take a look at it, but you very well might end up sinking another $100 into the bike when things start to fall apart. Vintage frames last a long time, but components need maintenance and replacement. Anyone who spent the time and money to get that bike into good shape will charge more than $75.

I think you're better off finding a newer bike and paying a bit more.

Super Cub, Saturday, 31 May 2008 23:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

Or maybe finding a vintage bike with a description and price that indicate it's been overhauled.

Super Cub, Saturday, 31 May 2008 23:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

Turns out that bikes been sold. I've been hitting up bike shops today, looking around. Thing is, I don't have much money to spend, only about $150, maybe $250 maximum.

The Reverend, Sunday, 1 June 2008 00:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

Does that maximum include gear (you will need stuff like lube, a pump, spare tubes, a lock, tyre levers, set of allen keys)? You could keep looking on craigslist but maybe up your expectations slightly - a $150 bike is that much more likely to have been looked after I guess. You should be able to figure out from the listing whether the seller is genuinely knowledgeable and affectionate about the bike, or whether it's some pile of crap he just wants rid of.

Don't bother looking at bikes less than 56cm or more than 59cm - 57/58 is probably going to be perfect for you unless you have very long or short legs and arms. Seriously, don't compromise on frame size, otherwise you'll be in pretty much permanent discomfort.

With the price you have you can also look for sale-reduced items - go into a bike shop and ask what they have that's reduced, shop-soiled, discontinued etc. in a 58 frame and go from there.

Mark C, Sunday, 1 June 2008 08:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

I am mostly legs, fyi, so I probably want the higher end of that range. Thanks for the advice. Heading to a couple bike shops right now.

rev, Monday, 2 June 2008 18:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

I might be able to get a (very lightly used) bike from my grandpa for free, but I haven't seen it and he hasn't gotten back to me, so I have no idea whether it will be suitable or not.

rev, Monday, 2 June 2008 18:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hang on a sec fella - if you are all legs then you may want a higher saddle and a smaller frame, otherwise the reach involved might be too much for your relatively small body and/or short arms.

Hopefully in a bike shop they'll know what kind of size your body shape requires better than me, though.

Mark C, Monday, 2 June 2008 20:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

It's probably too late, but even if you don't find anything to buy, try and get a couple of test rides in so you can tell what size and shape of bike feels most comfortable to you.

Mark C, Monday, 2 June 2008 20:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

Any update, Rev?

Mark C, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 12:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

In other news, my bike-buying efforts are going pretty badly. The bike I ordered in early April was first due to ship late April, then they changed the date to late May, and today's email says mid-July. This means I won't have it for the ride to Paris (i.e. the whole reason I am buying it!), so I've emailed them the following. Does anyone think it'll do the slightest bit of good?

I think it's about time I speak to a customer representative who can talk me through my options.

After being a regular customer (almost platinum!) over the last year or so, I put in an order in early April for a bike that I understood will be in stock end of April. When this was delayed for a further month to end of May, I decided the bike itself was something I really wanted and that it's worth the wait, despite my frustration. So it's a real blow, 8 weeks later, to be told that I have another 6 weeks minimum to wait.

I am buying this bike to reward myself for taking part in a multi-day charity ride - my prize for all the efforts I've spent training on my faithful but exhausted old machine. With the current timing, the bike won't arrive before the journey.

My company is signed up to the Wiggle Cycle to Work scheme because I pushed for it, because I was so keen to purchase this particular bike (the Focus Cayo Pro). My colleagues who have made purchases are delighted with their bikes, and more are planning to do so. I've been paying since April for nothing.

I hope you can console a seriously disappointed customer. I've heard (and experienced) enough crappy things about the bike industry but I'd become convinced Wiggle was different!

I look forward to hearing from you.
Mark

Mark C, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 13:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

And what do you think the odds are of them offering me the next bike up in the range for the same price? Especially since it retails at £900 more expensive...

Mark C, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 13:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

Is the bike Wiggle's own brand?

Pashmina, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 15:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

Well, wiggle are the sole importer in the UK (the brand is Focus).

Mark C, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 16:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

My guess would be that the hold-up is on the manufacturer's end and thus out of their control. Nonetheless, the letter will make them aware of your frustration and the importance of good customer service. Maybe they'll try and make it right and you'll get a nice present.

Super Cub, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 17:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I don't think they're fucking me around intentionally, it's just a supply thing. But clearly I'm going to have to cancel this order (sob) and it's very much in their interests to offer me something else for my $3,500...

Mark C, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 17:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

Any update, Rev?

-- Mark C, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 12:49 (5 hours ago) Link

I got the bike from my grandpa. It's an old 10-speed Schwinn Sportabout that needs new tires, but is otherwise solid as far as I can tell. Has tools and chain with it. Rides well. It'll work for now.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 18:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

Mark, that's so frustrating... when I worked in a shop, Trek pulled that stuff all the time, and customers would go ballistic when we just kept telling them to wait and wait. The worst was when they'd schedule a small end-of-season run in mid-July, and then cancel it, making us call everyone with orders to tell them they wouldn't have bikes until November.

On the flipside, and speaking as a former shop employee, when the mfr F's the retailer, that's not your problem- it's the shop's problem, because they took your money. You deserve a comparable bike, and if they end up losing money, they can always hit the mfr up for a credit or better dating or whatever the next time they order bikes.

If they tell you there's nothing they can do, they're lying. There's always something a shop can do to keep customers happy.

ytth, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 01:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that's what I figure too - I just wish the guy I am speaking to was one with a bit more balls/imagination and was prepared to make me an attractive offer. I'm sure he could manage to do so without costing the shop a lot of money. Let's see if he does (though I strongly doubt it). If anyone has suggestions as to what I could ask for - my current thinking is a wheelset upgrade.

Mark C, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 10:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

These motherfuckers refuse to come up with an alternative that gives me a similarly-specced bike for the same price. A discount of £135 on the £900-more-expensive next model up ain't going to cut it, to be honest.

I suggested they upgrade the wheelset of the next model down, which would give me an effective discount of £100 (not unfair I don't think, considering the delay and disappointment?

Thank you for your email.

Unfortunately - as advised previously - we do not do part swaps (unless you pay for alternative parts fully).
I am sorry for this.

Regards
Adrian

Wiggle Customer Services

Mark C, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 10:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

Adrian has a manager...

ytth, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 14:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

Time to escalate I think, given that you have been paying since april for this and presumably your company has paid in full at that point under the cycle to work scheme and good have not been delivered they are on somewhat dodgy ground trading standards wise. standard mail order procedure is not to charge until goods are dispatched. You may wish to point this out.

Ed, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 15:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

well that blows
xpost to mark

awesome abt getting yr grandpa's bike, rev! that is sort of the dream way to get a sweet vintage bike b/c you know at least it's prob been sitting in a dry garage for a long time even tho it'll need some work

i realllly want another bike, tho i'm so comfortable with mine (old specialized rockhopper, with road slicks) maybe i should just get a more comfortable saddle and cut down the ridiculously wide handlebars or put dif ones on. but wld like a road bike, something light and fast but obv not $$ b/c a) i don't have much $$ and b) i wld commute on it and therefore be locking it up places and c) it wld be better for longer rides, put some panniers on it, yknow. but maybe not this year, sigh

was talking with a friend abt multi-day even multi-week treks and am surprised at how much the idea appeals to me

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 15:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

Okay, we've sorted it out. I am getting effectively the same bike but with Campagnolo Chorus gruppo rather than SRAM Force. I can live with that, I think. It also means I'll have a spare set of wheels (Fulcrum Racing 5), which I can either sell or keep as spares.

Mark C, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 16:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

awesome abt getting yr grandpa's bike, rev! that is sort of the dream way to get a sweet vintage bike b/c you know at least it's prob been sitting in a dry garage for a long time even tho it'll need some work

Yeah, this is the case. I'm taking it to get new tires today.

rev, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 17:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

Okay, new tires are go!

rev, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 18:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

: |

Learned the hard way that one needs to take the curb at an angle. I'm alright, but there's a large bloodstain on the knee of my jeans.

rev, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 20:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

What do you mean by "take the curb?" Are you jumping curbs? I wouldn't advise doing that on a 30-year-old road bike (or any road bike for that matter). You'll mess up your bike.

Super Cub, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 21:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

Or do you literally mean that to turn, you simply turned the handlebars? Yup, you need to lean into them - indeed you'll barely turn the bars at all except in the slowest and tightest of bends.

Mark C, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 22:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

No, no. I mean I went from the street onto the curb at a place where the curb was lowered to street level (not jumping) at pretty much a 180-degree angle, at which point my bike immediately fell over to the right and I found myself on my hands and knees.

rev, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 23:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ah, fuck. The bike I wanted had 50/34 chainrings and a 12-27 cassette - nice and gentle and good for hills. The bike I have ended up buying, I have just discovered, is 53/39 and 11-25. I am fucked as soon as I come across a hill.

Mark C, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 23:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

You could ask the shop to switch out the cassette or chainrings. If you give them the stock one that comes with the bike, hopefully they won't charge (or charge much) for the new cassette and labor. Seems like they owe you.

(xpost) rev, that can happen. I fell on my ass in a similar way just a couple of weeks ago (first time I'd fallen in a long-long time). The pavement was wet and I rode up on a lip between pavement and driveway and the front wheel kicked out. Bloop - one second I was on the bike the next second I was on the ground. Jumped up and got back on the bike and kept riding. Came away with a little bruise on my hip and a scuff mark on the handlebars. No biggie.

Super Cub, Thursday, 5 June 2008 03:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

mark- how much do you care about keeping the group intact? i ask because campy stuff fetches a lot on ebay, so you could always sell the cranks and pick up a set of FSA or SRAM compact cranks for less $$$, and that would at least solve that problem. that'll make a way bigger difference than the cassette (although a cassette swap is so easy, i don't know why they wouldn't do it). switching out the chainrings won't work, since a 50/34 is a compact (and could possibly require a different front derailleur as well). also, campy may make compact cranks now... i've been out of the campy loop for a while.

your bike will get more looks with campy on it than SRAM, that's for sure.

ytth, Thursday, 5 June 2008 03:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

I just scored a cheap Kona jake frame to build a new bike for my GF's birthday.

Anyone got any tips on respraying bike frames as this looks a little beat. Obviouly plugging any threads, guides and holes is a must as is a grease free and slightly sanded down surface, but anyone got any tips for getting a good finish, what type of paints I should be using etc.

Ed, Thursday, 5 June 2008 09:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

I have ended up compromising AGAIN and settling for a Dura-ace groupset with compact chainrings. Less stylin', but £100 cheaper and I'm so hacked off with the entire process I don't care any more

Mark C, Thursday, 5 June 2008 12:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

Rev, will you post pictures of yr new bike? I'm not purely asking that to give me an excuse to post pics of mine :)

Mine's black. Not sure how I feel about that.

Mark C, Thursday, 5 June 2008 15:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

Sorry sorry, I am very bored at work (you may have guessed)

Mark C, Thursday, 5 June 2008 15:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

Bike might arrive tomorrow! (but more likely early next week)

Mark C, Thursday, 5 June 2008 16:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

Next week it is, then.

Mark C, Friday, 6 June 2008 13:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

Bugger, make shure you check it over carefully when it arrives.

Ed, Friday, 6 June 2008 13:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

I will, as carefully as I know how, in any case! Want to give me some pointers, assuming that I am one step up from absolute noob?

Mark C, Friday, 6 June 2008 14:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

I just finished Pastoralia, which is my second Saunders book. I think "Sea Oak" is one of the best short stories I have ever read. I have been wanting to talk about it with somebody, but my wife, a Joycian who doesn't read anything written after 1945, refuses to read postmodern fiction of any kind, at least until she finishes her dissertation (which is fair). So happy to have this thread, then, and nabisco's great posts, which are some of my favorite posts I've read on ILX. It was great to read such an articulate analysis of Saunders' use of language, and why it's so effective:

there's a rich uncle who spouts optimistic banalities about hard work in such a way that you feel he believes it, you understand him -- and even better, when the aunt's grave is desecrated, Saunders pegs the entire role of the policeman simply by putting question marks at the end of his sentences. (I wish I had the book here to quote: I think he says "Typically we find it's teens?" and in that question mark you hear everything -- the desire to be helpful and reassuring, and the complete powerlessness to actually be helpful and reassuring.)

The FIRPO story really got to me, too. It was like a Carver story narrated by the doomed child instead of the unhappy parents of the doomed child. "Winky" and the one about the barber were just ok, but I really loved the rest.

Anyway, I've read CivilWarLand In Bad Decline (though it's been years and I think I want to read it again; someone gave it to me as a gift a long time ago in an attempt to get me to quit reading Sedaris), and now, Pastoralia. Which one next?

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Monday, 19 August 2013 02:59 (five years ago) Permalink

ah, crap. Wromng thread. I am looking to buy a bike, though. Lemme read through all these replies and if I still have something to post, I will. That'll teach me to keep multiple tabs open.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Monday, 19 August 2013 03:01 (five years ago) Permalink

Emma wants a Dolce! Yes!

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 13:21 (five years ago) Permalink

I think we're both getting crosschecks

cozen, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 17:08 (five years ago) Permalink

new yorkers, where do i buy second hand bike without having to troll craigslist for hours each morning?

caek, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 21:12 (five years ago) Permalink

She might prefer the Trek Lexa. Except it's covered in fucking flowers at the model she wants, which she, rightly, finds sexist and offensive.

I'm pondering a Trek Madone 2.1, Cube Peleton Pro, and Specialized Allez Elite. Any thoughts?

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 29 August 2013 08:21 (five years ago) Permalink

canyon canyon canyon

cozen, Thursday, 29 August 2013 09:33 (five years ago) Permalink

Roadlite?

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 29 August 2013 10:08 (five years ago) Permalink

As I'll almost certainly be cyclescheming from the LBS if I get one, Canyon's out I think. Likewise Planet X, Ribble, etc.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 29 August 2013 10:16 (five years ago) Permalink

Emma bought a Dolce. I might have bought a Cube.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 1 September 2013 13:15 (five years ago) Permalink

Fuck me I love this bike.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 19:48 (five years ago) Permalink

fast?

cozen, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 19:49 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I've no idea how I was doing what I was doing on the Tricross.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 11:04 (five years ago) Permalink

congrats. i still don't get the "might have bought" though.

total body styling - learn how (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:58 (five years ago) Permalink

I think I was still in slight denial.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 5 September 2013 09:34 (five years ago) Permalink

I really want an AWOL
http://www.specialized.com/gb/gb/bikes/road/awol

is it well specced? am I daft?

myonga vön bantee (cozen), Saturday, 7 September 2013 20:18 (five years ago) Permalink

retails at £1000, comes with tubus front & rear racks, full guards, sora shifters, front triple, mountain bike gearing

looks like a cheaper take on the salsa fargo adventure/bikepacking rig

myonga vön bantee (cozen), Saturday, 7 September 2013 20:19 (five years ago) Permalink

those tubus vega racks are £70+ each iirc

myonga vön bantee (cozen), Saturday, 7 September 2013 20:20 (five years ago) Permalink

retails at £1000, comes with tubus front & rear racks, full guards, sora shifters, front triple, mountain bike gearing

looks like a cheaper take on the salsa fargo adventure/bikepacking rig

yeah they're aiming pretty squarely for the bike packing set

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Saturday, 7 September 2013 21:42 (five years ago) Permalink

Cool bike.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 8 September 2013 08:28 (five years ago) Permalink

OTOH this really high-specced surly LHT has just come up on ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Surly-Long-Haul-Trucker-Custom-build-/200961199347?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item2eca388cf3

would a 56cm be OK for someone 5'10"?

myonga vön bantee (cozen), Sunday, 8 September 2013 09:55 (five years ago) Permalink

I think so?

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Sunday, 8 September 2013 12:56 (five years ago) Permalink

Probably about right, close enough to put a longer stem on it if it really is a bit small.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 9 September 2013 09:11 (five years ago) Permalink

I was thinking it may be too big, rather than too small

my winter road bike is a 54cm iirc

myonga vön bantee (cozen), Monday, 9 September 2013 09:13 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm 5'11" with a longer torso & shortish legs (31-2cm for trousers), 56cm cross-check fits me well - geometry's a bit different, but you could change the stem.

woof, Monday, 9 September 2013 11:29 (five years ago) Permalink

though not that different now I look.

woof, Monday, 9 September 2013 11:33 (five years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

shd I get a kona sutra (http://www.cyclelane.co.uk/m4b0s21p6449/KONA-Sutra) or a specialized AWOL (http://www.specialized.com/gb/gb/bikes/road/awol/awol-deluxe)

~opinions~?

cozen, Friday, 27 September 2013 21:17 (five years ago) Permalink

is it wrong to basically want all those bikes

ECR looks like lots of fun

cozen, Saturday, 28 September 2013 10:30 (five years ago) Permalink

They all look like fun. I want to pimp my Tricross, I think.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 09:29 (five years ago) Permalink

Wat would i need to do that... front rack, mudguards, chunky tyres, probably better brakes. Can you stick disc brakes on any old frame?

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 09:31 (five years ago) Permalink

Nope, frame needs to be disc specific

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:47 (five years ago) Permalink

hummer needs to get on this lots of dudes need tubus racks to get to happy hour

but good for him for speaking his mind (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 18:39 (five years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

So. My Wilier, which was a replacement for my Roubaix that was stolen, has been stolen. I can sorta afford to wait for its replacement since, uh, I'm working out with a trainer twice a week instead of riding :|

Since it's hard for me to find a good fit (short arms) I'm thinking either something custom or at least getting a fit consult _before_ I buy the bike. I don't trust my own judgment here, the Wilier was perfectly comfortable but my weight was too far forward and handling during descents was terrible.

I'm also thinking about getting something with plenty of clearance and disc brakes, so I can swap wheels and do road or dirt. But I still want it to feel quick. Basically I'm looking for that elusive perfect all-rounder.

Not really sure where to start. I've always just gone to the shop and tried a couple things and then ridden away. Thoughts about bikes/brands/keywords to keep in mind?

0 / 0 (lukas), Thursday, 2 February 2017 18:02 (one year ago) Permalink

i am currently lusting after the OPEN U.P. -- seems like the perfect all arounder for the kind of riding i like to do (not racing on rough/gravel backroads in VT)

https://opencycle.com/up/

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 2 February 2017 18:10 (one year ago) Permalink

whoa cool

looks like I can go over to Sausalito and check one out too

0 / 0 (lukas), Thursday, 2 February 2017 19:48 (one year ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Not ridden in 10 weeks since I got runover, partly due to my elbow still being a mess and partly cos my bike is broken, I can't afford to fix it, and the guy who ran me over is ignoring his insurance company. It will get fixed at some point, but in the meantime I could, ironically, afford to get another bike through the work cycle scheme. So up to £1,000. But what do I want?

My bike is a Genesis Croix de Fer and I love it. I've got 30mm semi slick tyres for comfort / flexibility (can do gravel but not off road). Do I go more pure road (Equilibrium) or more crazy hybrid minster cross (Vagabond). I think I'd like to stay steel. I really love the Genesis aesthetic.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 8 May 2017 05:08 (one year ago) Permalink

Do I go totally non-Genesis? There's a Kona dealer in tow too. And I guess I should check the big local bike shop and see what they have, though from past experience nothing steel under £1,000.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 8 May 2017 09:20 (one year ago) Permalink

how are you recovering?

don't really have an opinion on what _kind_ of frameset style. i have a bike that sits on my trainer that never gets ridden outside anymore, but i really love it when i think about it as a "just one" bike. its a cheap alu frame cost me well under $200 new. its a cx that will easily and nicely take 38s, and i think a bit more. it's got a rack, and fender mounts. it's not light at 3.5 lbs, but it has a sweet, stiff 500g carbon cx fork. it's a little long on the tt, but i put a shorter stem on it. it's got a nice but really old 9spd DA set up. i c ould gravel the fuck out of this, tour it, commute on it, and if it gets wrecked i'll be sad but not broke. i could totally race it in a pinch, though it would be a bit laggy on a crit. it can't do a front rack, and only two bottle mounts, but i think that's it for limits. i put a USE alien bladed carbon TT seatpost on it, it's hilarious.

gah i sound like im braggin on my trainer bike, but what i mean is what you know- if it's versatile and you like it, that's the one-bike. stay with a CdF then, unless the other one is somehow coming back?

we have no facts and we're voting no (Hunt3r), Monday, 8 May 2017 12:55 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, should have said; the other one will come at some point, I just can't afford to do it myself now and this guy is being a dick re: his insurance (I literally have a letter from the police saying he was to blame, and he's not answering the phone or emails or letters, so they won't pay out until an accident investigator has determined liability) (for about £380!). It just needs a new fork, saddle, and brake parts, plus maintenance / labour.

I've still got restricted movement in my elbow, it clicks at certain angles and motions, and causes pain sometimes. Initial diagnosis was I should be pretty much fully recovered in 5-6 weeks but it's been 10 now, so I think I'll head back to the doctor.

I'm actually even thinking about getting a personal injury lawyer, such is how much this guy and his insurance has pissed me off. I'd never normally think about it, but uergh.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 8 May 2017 13:33 (one year ago) Permalink

That sounds shitty all around, seems like the obligation of his insurer is to act and they should respond but that's not advice, just curiosity.

And yeah if the cdf is coming back that slot will be filled, time to play. Or get a new cdf and sell the old one when it returns? How come their site only shows the Ti cdf? There's a fer cdf I assume.

we have no facts and we're voting no (Hunt3r), Monday, 8 May 2017 14:36 (one year ago) Permalink

The site's design is weird; you get to the lower models via clicking the black panel under neath the bike at the right-hand-side - this then scrolls it horizontally. Ugly UX.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 8 May 2017 14:55 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Picked up my Equilibrium today. Shiny red.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 27 July 2017 19:52 (one year ago) Permalink

awesome man. i don't think ive every ridden a road bike that slack. i was surprised enough that i checked their other frames, and seems all the roadies are like that til you're over to volare or zero.

popcorn michael awaits trumptweet (Hunt3r), Thursday, 27 July 2017 21:31 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

My bike has died and I need a new one. Not much money but I'm thinking of going for a s/h road bike for the first time if I can find a good deal. If anyone has any tips on what to go for and / or avoid I'd love to hear them.

Shat Parp (dog latin), Monday, 18 September 2017 08:43 (one year ago) Permalink

What kind of riding do you think you'll do? Recreation/fitness? Utility/local transport? Pub runs? Most drop bar, road bikes are best for recreation/fitness in my opinion, or long-range transport. Flat bar road bikes that can take fenders and a rack are better for utility/local imo. Nowadays there's really a style for every purpose, and enough volume to have s/h stuff be pretty fairly priced, at least in this part of USA.

felix! phelix! ghelix! (Hunt3r), Monday, 18 September 2017 13:53 (one year ago) Permalink

Just for getting around the city (Bristol, UK) really. It'll be my main mode of transport, getting too and from work and other parts. Might do a few longer rides for fun.

Shat Parp (dog latin), Monday, 18 September 2017 14:12 (one year ago) Permalink

you'll want plenty o' gears in bristol. or at least don't get a single speed.

if you're new to riding road bikes in traffic i'd definitely go for a flat handlebar bike.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 September 2017 16:22 (one year ago) Permalink

Just flipping through ebay, im posting these as "types" not actual bikes- for example the first one has spoke issues- you don't want that one, but it's of the sort that might work for the role:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Specialized-TriCross-Sport-bicycle-56cm/332381525584?hash=item4d637b9650%3Ag%3AjFEAAOSwFPRZvQTl
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2017-GENESIS-Equilibrium-4-months-old-Bought-for-950/122710787329?hash=item1c92220501%3Ag%3AtToAAOSw~gxZq~rg
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Boardman-2016-CX-Comp-Mens-Cyclocross-Bike-Bicycle-Alloy-Frame-18-Speed-700C/182726175598?hash=item2a8b542b6e%3Ag%3AOZUAAOSwr2ZZmqWs

basically, these are drop bars with rear rack and mudguard mounts. 9/10 speed shifting is good and current, 7 and 8 speed sets might be harder to get quality replacement parts. a double chainring crankset will usually be enough. i think caek's advice is solid- flat bars in traffic are nice for visibility and maneuvering. drops are nice for those longer rides where you want multiple hand positions to stay comfortable.

if your bike storage is on street locking, keep it cheap (tho i obv have no idea what bike theft is like in your hood, maybe it's pretty safe).

felix! phelix! ghelix! (Hunt3r), Monday, 18 September 2017 16:40 (one year ago) Permalink

i had a drop road when i lived in bristol and it was great for extreme hill climbs on deserted streets back from the pub and doing the cycle path to bath and back, but i hated riding it on e.g. gloucester road with the potholes and buses. i'm a fairly comfortable cyclist in traffic, but that was a bridge too far for me.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 September 2017 16:51 (one year ago) Permalink


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