Mac OS X Lion 10.7

Mainly I wanted a place to post this hint on how to display ~/Library since the default now is to have it invisible.

This is really great, guys. Have you enabled the title bar double-clicking? I know you can click to drag anywhere, but they really didn't document this double-clicking thing

what double-clicking? Double-clicking has always minimized to dock in X, and still does.

You must not have Lion yet!

Also, the little swirl motion you can do on the touchpad is pretty cool

I do; just double-clicked, is exactly the same.

I'm in love with natural scrolling now too, after hating it for two days solid.

You're really derailing my "making up random shit that is Lion to make Autumn Almanac confused when he actually gets it" tactic

I've been thinking about being a pirate and grabbing the gold master early this week. I'm assuming you're a registered developer?

yeh. I think "Gold Master" is pushing it a bit too; shit is buggy.

There's definitely an unfinished quality to the GM (yes I'm a reg. dev.). Before, GMs have been pretty solid but there's definitely some more work/debugging code removal to go.

don't have this yet but i'll be glad to get it & glad to read siracusa's review!

Will not be touching the initial release with a 10-foot pole.

lol rip

Buggy? Wait, isn't it coming out this month?

supposedly in a week or so

oooh.. that's not good. Maybe I'll wait for the first or second point release.

Just the chance of anything this big being critically buggy is unacceptable. Happy to let everyone else lose their iphoto libraries on my behalf.

have you ever had issues or are you just a for-life conspiracy skeptic?

Not to worry; SL first GM was like this too. The builds they give devs are usually older builds that are slightly more stable. Apple GMs aren't really GM at all.

I'm in love with natural scrolling now too, after hating it for two days solid.

otm

I've not yet used the new scrolling but it seems logical as hell to move your fingers in the direction you want the content to move, as though you're pushing a bit of paper up and down (q.v. ipad). In hindsight it's really quite weird that the other way became the norm for scroll wheels etc.

okay the "all my files" view is winnar.

really? seems utterly useless and pointless to me.

I know it's nothing you can't do already but I like the idea of a standard view that just shows you everything you have. System-wide text search makes everything else redundant imo, but still.

Maybe it's just cos I've got 10,000+ files, but a view that (checks) opens with 6 calendar events from 2006, 10 ancient screen shots, some random PDFs and crappy mid files etc is a view I'm never going into again.

oh fuck, really?

In hindsight it's really quite weird that the other way became the norm for scroll wheels etc.

it comes from the double function of scrollbars - both a "handle" for manipulating a document and a visual indicator of where you were in that document. it worked pretty well imo. but now with touch interfaces no "handle" is required

have you ever had issues or are you just a for-life conspiracy skeptic?

― mh, Friday, July 8, 2011 5:01 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

tbf i agree with him totally on this and i am an OG apple stan.

to be fair I'd recommend most users wait for the 10.x.1 release for most releases

but I'm not most users

well exactly. sure, call out AA for his paranoia/jobs obsession/prejudice, but he's 100% otm about this.

by the way, is 10.6.8 ok?

I've had no issues thus far, but I think I only have it installed on one of two machines.

I'm not upgrading to snow leopard til we get to 10.6.9

lol

loooool @ u all, i'm still on os 9

. . .

classilla ftw

ok seriously autocorrect can GTF. it's turned otm into tom like 15 times now. Learn, ffs.

TOM.

Srsly tho: is autocorrect built into 10.7?

Can you not turn it off?

it is built in, same model as iPhone's, and tbh it's handy enough to want to keep it on, but they need to add a way to remove/update the dictionary, srsly.

oh it supposedly does "smart" quotes too. that's not working.

Seems utterly pointless when you're on a full keyboard. Also, fuck everything that cultivates bad typing habits.

hold down the 'e' key in this tèxt bóx

Wait, so holding down a key doesn't do key repeat anymore?

otmbot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhOG25fM8so

I feel a little ashamed for kind of knowingly nodding partway through

what version is the stock python on 10.7?

i rarely ever go looking for some random file. usually what i need is in an app thats already open or one of the folders on the dock which i clean out regularly. so i use spotlight only to launch apps that i use occasionally.

spotlight is great for launching apps

I tried spotlight out for 2 minutes in tiger and have never used it since

its good for searching for things

ha. tiger in spotlight blew chunks all over grandmas new dress.

er, spotlight in tiger

I have reserved my top right INFINITE PIXEL to expose though, launchpad is much better for app launching

I have been using Spotlight equivalents in Win (Launchy) and Ubuntu (gnome-do) for years. Could not live without them.

hot corner users, dire barbarians each one

upper-left for show desktop is useful

I have never had an upper left corner. OMG

I made it into "post I Miss You youtube"

upper left is apple menu, you monster

bottom left and right are useful.

if the only launching you ever do with spotlight is just running applications it's just about fine (although the amount of crap i have to scroll through to launch itunes after typing "it" is kind of amazing), but alfred or launchbar are _way_ better for everything spotlight does except actual searching.

aa, if you are a hacky terminal user you should try one of those, or quicksilver

upper-left for show desktop is useful

― shaane, Friday, 14 October 2011 09:19 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Not judging but what do you use show desktop for? I never ever need to show my desktop.

I installed alfred once but all it did was return snide erudite one-liners

I should definitely look at Alfred, been hearing good things recently

i have never used alfred tbf. i hear it mentioned. launchbar all the way.

they keep threatening to resurrect quicksilver but afaict the og developer is basically insane and its open source community is not much better.

http://www.alfredapp.com/powerpack/

http://www.alfredapp.com/images/powerpack/itunes-mini-player.jpg

if you don't use the desktop then obv show desktop is not useful. i just use the default expose shortcut for that when i need it.

bottom left hot corner is lock screen for me.

oh, wait, I thought the user was searching for "Polite Dance Song" and got Elliott Smith, nm xp

xxp oh great, more helvetica

the basic thing is spotlight is so much more than a launcher and as a result the UI isn't really optimized for launching stuff (and certainly not the kind of object verb subject stuff that even the basic dedicated launchers do). so get a real launcher, disable/reuse the spotlight shortcut, and one the rare occasions you need to use it's full text search then click the spotlight icon or use the keyboard shortcut that opens the dedicated spotlight window.

that is how i break it down

i use the desktop as a scratchpad so flicking between apps and the desktop comes in handy. its usually empty.

hahaha re: the hate for upper left. i chose it just cause the gesture of flinging the pointer up-left to reveal felt natural.

caek, what kind of object verb subject stuff do you do on a regular basis?

ftp, email, append to clipboard

probably some other stuff

when I picture caek using his mac, it looks like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbpCLqryN-Q

yeah, i can imagine using those

i use the desktop as a scratchpad

Sorry, I don't get what you mean. Temp file storage (e.g. text files), or an actual scratchpad like a big magna-doodle?

real launchers also have a bunch of stuff built in that is basically just executing an applescript but is convenient to have prewritten (play/pause, show someone's phone number in big text, drill through folders, move, delete...)

when i use a mac it is more like http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.misc/134336/focus=134979

jeez how does the mailman get your replies back to ILX so quickly

another thing i use it for is searches, e.g. i can type cmd-space then "a z" then space then type some text and a browser tab launches with it searched for on amazon. if i type "a z d e" then it searches amazon.de.

it also has clipboard history. i hit cmd-opt-\ and i get a list of the last 40 things i put in my clipboard. i can either scroll down or type a few letters from the entry i want, then hit turn to put the item back in the clipboard. this is on the verge of becoming bloatware, but LB does a way better job of it than the dedicated clipboard things that i don't mind. clipboard history is one of those things you don't know how you lived without.

youre just asking to have that used against you in a court of law

I love LB and probably use 15% of it's features.

lol xp my current history is basically just me stalking you on ilx

http://i.minus.com/ibaAv2d4pQqRqx.png

tbh unless I'm doing a search, I never look at the UI of Spotlight

I usually just type the first few characters of an app name and hit enter

chilling xp

so caek, you're a launchbar guy? don't quite recognize that launcher

ha at me uploading my government phone number to ilx in a screenshot

we need a "indefensible: stallman" thread

scratchpad is the wrong word. i just treat it like an actual desk. shit I'm working on goes there and i clean up when I'm done.

ah righto

btw sorry to rail against the whole metaphor of a desktop, I just hate things being on my desktop and forget that other people use it for real things

gassée on nextstep/be os: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/the-story-behind-apples-next-os-in-1996-video/63196

I'll watch the video when I'm not at work but this quote:

“Thank god that didn’t happen, because I hated Apple’s management.”

..is completely hilarious in context. Had Gassée made the sale, he could have probably quit Be/Apple and retired a rich man. He basically flubbed the entire negotiation. On the other side of the coin, Jobs actually disliked most of the managers as well and as his influence grew upon his return, he cleaned house.