confusingly, the outback used to be available as a sedan
https://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/subaru/outback/2001/oem/2001_subaru_outback_sedan_limited_fq_oem_1_500.jpg
― 龜, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:00 (one year ago) link
that car is sick iirc thats from when the outback was a trim level not a car so that was the legacy outback sedan, i know someone who has one
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link
its the ll bean edition too just a bizarre car i love it
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link
forester is a little taller and squarer than the outback but lol yeah they are comically similar
actually if you have, say, a 2002 forester, i think that might count?
https://www.cars.com/i/large/in/v2/stock_photos/b7c99a06-5f3a-4eea-aa99-4d9968721245/3513e7ad-b63a-451f-8284-df4dc2bc85ed.png
but not a 2022 forester
https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/9YO1m/s3/2022-subaru-forester-wilderness-first-drive-review.jpg
three box vs two box design
― the late great, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link
wagons with wood trim is such a good look
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1996-buick-roadmaster-42/
https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/1996_buick_roadmaster_01-exterior-buick-estate-wagon-006-90410.jpg?fit=940%2C626
― 龜, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link
i own a forester and i regular mistake other people's outbacks for foresters and vice versa.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link
imagine how much you'd get hit on if you had a prius wagon in brown
https://www.leithtoyota.com/assets/shared/CustomHTMLFiles/Responsive/MRP/Toyota/2017/Prius-v/images/2017-Toyota-Prius-v-01.jpg
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link
even the new ones its just a lil boxier, i park in a lot with many subarus one of which is mine so ive thought about this a lot xp, i would never confuse them thats shameful
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link
that car is sick iirc thats from when the outback was a trim level not a car so that was the legacy outback sedan, i know someone who has one― lag∞n, Wednesday, November 16, 2022 3:02 PM (one minute ago)
― lag∞n, Wednesday, November 16, 2022 3:02 PM (one minute ago)
ah right, that was a weird time... reminds me of one of my grail cars, the impreza outback sport which has the best impreza nose imo combined with the practicality of a hatchback
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/1st-Subaru-Outback-Sport.jpg
― 龜, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link
thats a wrx tho no with the hood scoop (impreza platform)
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:08 (one year ago) link
also u cant just post a picture of the wilderness like its a normal one, lol those things are sick tho, i wld never own a forester tho team outback 4 life bb
i think the wrx badge wasn't used until the bugeye impreza
― 龜, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:09 (one year ago) link
actually i may be completely wrong
https://m.subaru.ca/WebPage.aspx?WebPageID=24128&Range=Forester&ModelYear=2022
^^ if you look at the photo of the chassis toward the bottom (next to the linkfor subaru global platform) it's a bit hard to follow but i think i can see a c and d pillar? so maybe it counts?
― the late great, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:09 (one year ago) link
― 龜, Wednesday, November 16, 2022 3:09 PM (forty-four seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
ah ok
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link
https://www.hotcars.com/looking-back-at-the-first-usdm-subaru-wrx/
Let’s look back on that 2002 model; the first WRX to be sold in North America and, it can be argued, the one that made Subaru into a household name not only for dog-walking enthusiasts but for driving enthusiasts too.
but according to wikipedia impreza WRXs were sold in europe since 92 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Impreza#WRX
― 龜, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link
love how all channels on this board end up being subaru chat
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link
i dont even really like subarus i got one to be sensible lol
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:31 (one year ago) link
MG makes an EV station wagonhttps://thedriven.io/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/DSC05081-Final-Reg-Plate-1-2400x1600-1.jpgstarts at £30K so not cheap but a good £10K cheaper than most other EVs
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link
https://t.co/ixbAwSlMkB pic.twitter.com/GSVh3IbZkT— tumblr dot com the website and app (@tumblr) November 18, 2022
― 龜, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link
i saw that on twitter but didn't understand it. pls explain
― the late great, Friday, 18 November 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link
oh i just posted it cuz it's got a subie in the pic
― 龜, Friday, 18 November 2022 22:40 (one year ago) link
Mine's not THAT new but it does look a lot like the one in the picture.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 18 November 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link
this car looks ugly as hell https://www.carwow.co.uk/news/5912/new-fisker-ocean-revealed-price-specs-release-date
but in reading about it i came across this sentence:
Fisker is also at work on developing solid-state battery technology, which it says would allow future electric vehicles to gain 500 miles worth of charge in as little as one minute.
ehh???
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-ces/new-fisker-ocean-electric-suv-revealed-300-mile-range
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 5 December 2022 09:57 (one year ago) link
toyota is also working on solid state batteries tho i dont remember any specs about em
https://insideevs.com/news/598046/toyota-global-leader-solid-state-batery-patents/
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Monday, 5 December 2022 12:31 (one year ago) link
i after long deliberation have come to the conclusion that i just do not like how the popular huge wheels tiny greenhouse car profile looks, and works bad too
― lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2022 13:55 (one year ago) link
weird aero ev wheels just makes it worse
― lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link
and then the huge wheels necessarily need a thinner rougher riding tire, and you cant see out the tiny windows
― lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link
Fisker is also at work on developing solid-state battery technology, which it says would allow future electric vehicles to gain 500 miles worth of charge in as little as one minute.ehh???
― Tracer Hand, Monday, December 5, 2022 4:57 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
if you can really get one of these for 30k thats pretty sick, the battery tech is almost certainly vaporware tho
― lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link
thats how much the tesla 3 was supposed to be, actually costs like 50k lol
― lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link
actual cybertrucks
https://www.just-auto.com/news/tevva-gets-ev-truck-type-approval-boost/
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 12 January 2023 13:29 (one year ago) link
Renault, Geely and..... Aramco starting a new... *checks notes* combustion engine venture
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/renault-geely-look-bring-aramco-into-engine-venture-sources-2023-01-17/
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 30 January 2023 12:04 (one year ago) link
One way to use those engines would be as a dedicated power generator to supply a charge to a hybrid car's battery system, rather than powering the vehicle directly when the battery charge was low, one of them said.In that kind of arrangement, gasoline engines could be designed to operate in an "exceptionally efficient mode", one of the sources said.
In that kind of arrangement, gasoline engines could be designed to operate in an "exceptionally efficient mode", one of the sources said.
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 30 January 2023 12:07 (one year ago) link
lmao congrats you just invented the chevy volt!
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Monday, 30 January 2023 12:26 (one year ago) link
I got a Tesla!!!!!! pic.twitter.com/cKpZ1LcgiV— out of context caro yost (@carosnake) January 25, 2023
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 00:38 (one year ago) link
https://archive.ph/2023.01.30-052139/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-26/how-china-is-quietly-dominating-the-global-car-market
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 6 February 2023 15:51 (one year ago) link
eh thats just manufacturing they need to step up and start exporting some real chinese cars cmon lets see some new cars bring em out
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2023 16:12 (one year ago) link
ultimately whats going to make this conversation moot is faster charging once its more like going to the gas station and less like stopping to read a book battery size wont matter, that and charging stations being as plentiful as gas stations
A study looked at driving habits of 333 people for a year: "More than a third of drivers were able to meet 100 percent of their needs with an EV with a relatively small battery, and didn’t need to make any additional trips for the sole purpose of charging" https://t.co/ZID6Lzwn5u— Alissa Walker (@awalkerinLA) March 2, 2023
― lag∞n, Thursday, 2 March 2023 15:39 (one year ago) link
I know someone who drives an EV and she says she now regards the idea of gas stations as ludicrous and inconvenient. Every day she wakes up with a full charge that lasts for 200 miles
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 2 March 2023 15:57 (one year ago) link
Imagine if you had to go to a special place to charge your phone
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 2 March 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link
yeah for the most part an ev is way more convenient than a gas car because of that, tho i dont think range anxiety is as overblown as some might argue, and! batteries are way too big right now because charging in the wild sucks
― lag∞n, Thursday, 2 March 2023 16:03 (one year ago) link
but i do think itll all sort itself out just take a lil time
― lag∞n, Thursday, 2 March 2023 16:04 (one year ago) link
as a person with, um, some type a qualities, it's not fun seeing my little range bar go down all day if i'm on a longer trip! for sure a portion of it is me being anxious but the other portion is never wanting to deal with public charging until it gets way better.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 3 March 2023 01:43 (one year ago) link
We've been a two-car family for a little over a year now. We did seriously look at a couple of EVs, which were appealing, but one of the things we wanted out of a second car was a backup in case the older first car was in the shop or otherwise out of the picture. We needed the second car to be able to do the kinds of practical things in a pinch the first car did, mostly related to range. In the end we shopped strategically. The older car will eventually go to my older daughter when she's close to graduating from college, the newer car becomes the older car, and if we get a replacement second car after that it will likely be an EV, because three or four years down the line we figure things will have evolved.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 March 2023 01:58 (one year ago) link
But yeah, honestly, an EV would easily handle most of what we use the cars for, with modest charging needs. It's the exceptions that gave us pause, I guess.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 March 2023 02:00 (one year ago) link
sub-€25K VW EV coming in 2026, and apparently a separate one for less than €20K
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/volkswagen-id-2all-concept-previews-sub-£22k-electric-car-2026
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 20 March 2023 09:51 (one year ago) link
(someone make me supply-chain czar so I can force the issue on govt/corp fleets switching over instead of $125K Moab Mother Ships)
Ford F-150 Lightning electric pickup zaps pest control agency’s CO2 emissions by 78%
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 09:21 (one year ago) link
(f'ed up the pull quote)
18% of all the power used by the vehicle came from its regenerative braking system.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 09:22 (one year ago) link
regenerative braking is so cool, I learned abt it a few years ago. Alternator charging is totally the future.
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 15:01 (one year ago) link
“To get a car below €25,000 that has no compromises with safety and range is literally impossible at the moment,”
apparently by 2025-26 VW are going to do it by:
- simplifying production options- scale, sharing about half the design with other cars built at the same plants- using 200 mile-max lithium-iron-phosphate (LFP) batteries instead of pricier and higher-range nickel-manganese-cobalt (NMC)
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 11:14 (one year ago) link