why don’t you drive an EV?

oh you want that 30 year old land cruiser model still being sold in australia here u go weirdo knock yourself out

s3 hatchback why not have fun

disagree, that will just make it easier for our class enemies to round us up

1986 4wd stanza wagon!!! astounding car

https://topclassiccarsforsale.com/datsun/99248-1986-nissan-stanza-datsun-prairie-4x4-wagon-5-speed-manual-4wd.html

last time i rented a car in the uk it was an audi wagon and it was in most respects the highlight of my life and it's been downhill from there.

ha i remember those, the true crossover grandaddy is the amg eagle, amazing car tbf xp

https://i.imgur.com/ytuSFTQ.png

u know u can still get an audi wagon xp

my wife (american) won't let me.

tell her i said its ok if you have one as a treat

https://barnfinds.com/side-impact-1987-nissan-stanza-wagon/

this post shows the cool fold-down seats for taking extra kids home from soccer practice

I don't really get this -- so the Subaru Outback is a station wagon and the Forester is a crossover/SUV? I think of those cars as kind of indistinguishable and purchased by the same kind of people. (I drive a Forester.)

imo neither are wagons, since neither have a third pillar (plus they have the clearance of an suv not a sedan)

i think the only brands currently making wagons are audi, bmw, benz and volvo. and as we already discussed they are all crazy expensive, which cuts into the budget for kobe steak and helicopter fuel

the outback is definitely longer in the back than a forester

confusingly, the outback used to be available as a sedan

https://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/subaru/outback/2001/oem/2001_subaru_outback_sedan_limited_fq_oem_1_500.jpg

that car is sick iirc thats from when the outback was a trim level not a car so that was the legacy outback sedan, i know someone who has one

its the ll bean edition too just a bizarre car i love it

forester is a little taller and squarer than the outback but lol yeah they are comically similar

actually if you have, say, a 2002 forester, i think that might count?

https://www.cars.com/i/large/in/v2/stock_photos/b7c99a06-5f3a-4eea-aa99-4d9968721245/3513e7ad-b63a-451f-8284-df4dc2bc85ed.png

but not a 2022 forester

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/9YO1m/s3/2022-subaru-forester-wilderness-first-drive-review.jpg

three box vs two box design

wagons with wood trim is such a good look

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1996-buick-roadmaster-42/

https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/1996_buick_roadmaster_01-exterior-buick-estate-wagon-006-90410.jpg?fit=940%2C626

i own a forester and i regular mistake other people's outbacks for foresters and vice versa.

imagine how much you'd get hit on if you had a prius wagon in brown

https://www.leithtoyota.com/assets/shared/CustomHTMLFiles/Responsive/MRP/Toyota/2017/Prius-v/images/2017-Toyota-Prius-v-01.jpg

even the new ones its just a lil boxier, i park in a lot with many subarus one of which is mine so ive thought about this a lot xp, i would never confuse them thats shameful

that car is sick iirc thats from when the outback was a trim level not a car so that was the legacy outback sedan, i know someone who has one

― lag∞n, Wednesday, November 16, 2022 3:02 PM (one minute ago)

ah right, that was a weird time... reminds me of one of my grail cars, the impreza outback sport which has the best impreza nose imo combined with the practicality of a hatchback

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/1st-Subaru-Outback-Sport.jpg

thats a wrx tho no with the hood scoop (impreza platform)

also u cant just post a picture of the wilderness like its a normal one, lol those things are sick tho, i wld never own a forester tho team outback 4 life bb

i think the wrx badge wasn't used until the bugeye impreza

actually i may be completely wrong

https://m.subaru.ca/WebPage.aspx?WebPageID=24128&Range=Forester&ModelYear=2022

^^ if you look at the photo of the chassis toward the bottom (next to the linkfor subaru global platform) it's a bit hard to follow but i think i can see a c and d pillar? so maybe it counts?

i think the wrx badge wasn't used until the bugeye impreza

― 龜, Wednesday, November 16, 2022 3:09 PM (forty-four seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

ah ok

https://www.hotcars.com/looking-back-at-the-first-usdm-subaru-wrx/

Let’s look back on that 2002 model; the first WRX to be sold in North America and, it can be argued, the one that made Subaru into a household name not only for dog-walking enthusiasts but for driving enthusiasts too.

but according to wikipedia impreza WRXs were sold in europe since 92 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Impreza#WRX

love how all channels on this board end up being subaru chat

i dont even really like subarus i got one to be sensible lol

MG makes an EV station wagon

https://thedriven.io/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/DSC05081-Final-Reg-Plate-1-2400x1600-1.jpg

starts at £30K so not cheap but a good £10K cheaper than most other EVs

https://t.co/ixbAwSlMkB pic.twitter.com/GSVh3IbZkT

— tumblr dot com the website and app (@tumblr) November 18, 2022

i saw that on twitter but didn't understand it. pls explain

oh i just posted it cuz it's got a subie in the pic

actually if you have, say, a 2002 forester, i think that might count?

Mine's not THAT new but it does look a lot like the one in the picture.

this car looks ugly as hell https://www.carwow.co.uk/news/5912/new-fisker-ocean-revealed-price-specs-release-date

but in reading about it i came across this sentence:

Fisker is also at work on developing solid-state battery technology, which it says would allow future electric vehicles to gain 500 miles worth of charge in as little as one minute.

ehh???

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-ces/new-fisker-ocean-electric-suv-revealed-300-mile-range

toyota is also working on solid state batteries tho i dont remember any specs about em

https://insideevs.com/news/598046/toyota-global-leader-solid-state-batery-patents/

i after long deliberation have come to the conclusion that i just do not like how the popular huge wheels tiny greenhouse car profile looks, and works bad too

weird aero ev wheels just makes it worse

and then the huge wheels necessarily need a thinner rougher riding tire, and you cant see out the tiny windows

this car looks ugly as hell https://www.carwow.co.uk/news/5912/new-fisker-ocean-revealed-price-specs-release-date

but in reading about it i came across this sentence:

Fisker is also at work on developing solid-state battery technology, which it says would allow future electric vehicles to gain 500 miles worth of charge in as little as one minute.
ehh???

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-ces/new-fisker-ocean-electric-suv-revealed-300-mile-range

― Tracer Hand, Monday, December 5, 2022 4:57 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

if you can really get one of these for 30k thats pretty sick, the battery tech is almost certainly vaporware tho

thats how much the tesla 3 was supposed to be, actually costs like 50k lol

actual cybertrucks

https://www.just-auto.com/news/tevva-gets-ev-truck-type-approval-boost/

Renault, Geely and..... Aramco starting a new... *checks notes* combustion engine venture

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/renault-geely-look-bring-aramco-into-engine-venture-sources-2023-01-17/

One way to use those engines would be as a dedicated power generator to supply a charge to a hybrid car's battery system, rather than powering the vehicle directly when the battery charge was low, one of them said.

In that kind of arrangement, gasoline engines could be designed to operate in an "exceptionally efficient mode", one of the sources said.

lmao congrats you just invented the chevy volt!

I got a Tesla!!!!!! pic.twitter.com/cKpZ1LcgiV

— out of context caro yost (@carosnake) January 25, 2023

https://archive.ph/2023.01.30-052139/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-26/how-china-is-quietly-dominating-the-global-car-market

eh thats just manufacturing they need to step up and start exporting some real chinese cars cmon lets see some new cars bring em out

ultimately whats going to make this conversation moot is faster charging once its more like going to the gas station and less like stopping to read a book battery size wont matter, that and charging stations being as plentiful as gas stations

A study looked at driving habits of 333 people for a year: "More than a third of drivers were able to meet 100 percent of their needs with an EV with a relatively small battery, and didn’t need to make any additional trips for the sole purpose of charging" https://t.co/ZID6Lzwn5u

— Alissa Walker (@awalkerinLA) March 2, 2023