why don’t you drive an EV?

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woop

Toyota Tacoma-like truck, sports car, fleet of future EVs revealed: https://t.co/5DHrYAoCHS pic.twitter.com/28ucuBRx33

— Autoblog (@therealautoblog) December 14, 2021

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 14:29 (four years ago)

look at this lil guy its like a compact (fj) cruiser

https://i.imgur.com/nPNeK7I.png

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 15:15 (four years ago)

looks like it could be an actual small truck, wld be cool

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 15:26 (four years ago)

damn, went from dragging their feet to a full-on ev pivot

class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 15:32 (four years ago)

yeah prob werent really dragging their feet, just a different release strategy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 15:37 (four years ago)

well, dragging their feet insofar as they were actively shitting on EVs in their ads in europe and lobbying against phasing out ICEs

class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 15:40 (four years ago)

thats just business

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 15:47 (four years ago)

i'd drive this

https://i.imgur.com/K9Mcuhx.jpg

, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 16:21 (four years ago)

were gonna spend the next few years hooting and hollering over that thing then theyll only release it in japan

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 16:27 (four years ago)

maybe some day someone will make one that has all analog dashboard, door mechanics, etc. when that day comes, i won't be able to buy it, but it will be nice to think about.

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 16:30 (four years ago)

dont think were going back to physical dials and gauges, but i see no reason to not have normal door handles

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 16:41 (four years ago)

will be interesting to see what we need to make this ev look futuristic shit shakes out in the end

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 16:42 (four years ago)

butlerian jihad now xp

, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 16:43 (four years ago)

i think we might! tesla are all in on digital stuff and triangular wheels and mirrors that can only reflect gamma rays, but honestly thing some of the adult manufacturers might think better of it in a few years, especially at the high end, and as EVs stop being marketed to gadget enthusiasts and start being a car guy thing/mass market.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 16:44 (four years ago)

idk i think theyll keep the screens they are really better in a lot of ways

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 16:47 (four years ago)

one cool thing about the ev wave is it seems like we might be getting past the super agro angry eyes aesthetic, tho if that just results in the under designed no taste minimalism of tesla well i dont like that either, things like the polestar and that mini fj crusier give me hope that the next thing will combine the detailed rigor of current the era with a more neutral boxy look

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 16:47 (four years ago)

new bronco which people are absolutely wild for also fits

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 16:50 (four years ago)

human eye headlights are among the worst things that have ever happened

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 16:55 (four years ago)

love to be tailgated by the mad car

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 16:57 (four years ago)

Anyone seen a rivian in the wild yet?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 16:59 (four years ago)

fixed it

fixed it pic.twitter.com/BgoNs0sosb

— br◎seph (@on3ness) December 14, 2021

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 17:06 (four years ago)

dont think were going back to physical dials and gauges, but i see no reason to not have normal door handles

Oh but won't someone please think of the dystopian science fiction filmmakers?

Because surely there will be a scene where someone desperately needs to enter and start their car, but their fingertips have been sliced off, so they can't get in using fingerprint recognition, so they're like helplessly stuck outside their perfectly functional car

Jeremy Ironist (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 17:19 (four years ago)

real live version standing in rainy parking lot charging your dead phone on the outlet in the bumper of your car so you can get into your car

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 17:23 (four years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XJxFAoiWSY

Jeremy Ironist (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 17:27 (four years ago)

Micro Box reminds me of the Johnny Cab.

ma dmac's fury road (PBKR), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 17:34 (four years ago)

fixed it

Oh, you'd have to be a Daddy Warbucks to afford that thing!

pplains, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 18:08 (four years ago)

Toyota grimly joins the subscription service crowd. Credit card declined for your car key sub? No car for you

https://www.engadget.com/toyota-key-fob-remote-start-function-requires-subscription-111606852.html

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 22:33 (four years ago)

keys didn't need to be reinvented

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 23:19 (four years ago)

that shit is so foul

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 00:08 (four years ago)

Everyone is doing it too.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/07/business/stellantis-auto-software.html
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a37419225/on-demand-options-automakers/
https://www.wired.com/story/subscriptions-automakers-mimic-netflix/

General Motors told investors this month that subscription services could bring in an additional $20 billion to $25 billion annually by 2030. The company says 4.2 million customers already pay for its OnStar security services, which include an app that costs $15 a month. Electric vehicle startup Rivian said in recent financial filings that it could bring in an additional $15,500 over the life of each car with software-enabled services, including an autonomous driving feature and subscriptions for infotainment, internet connectivity, and diagnostics. BMW last summer created buzz—and consternation—with plans to charge, through subscription fees, for features like heated seats. In the US, the automaker offers subscriptions for an onboard dash cam and a remote car starter.

Over the past few years, automotive companies have laid out plans to transform from “being an industry that sells products to an industry that sells services and products,” says Brian Irwin, who heads the automotive and mobility practice at the consultancy Accenture. Today’s vehicles come with multiple computer chips, cameras, and sensors—and thus, the tantalizing opportunity to use detailed data to both create and sell new products.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 00:25 (four years ago)

hate it!

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 00:27 (four years ago)

OnStar? Don't need it.
Autonomous driving feature? Cruise control's about all I'd need.
Infotainment? Internet? I've got this phone here that I already pay a monthly fee for.

Heated seats? DON'T THEY FUCKING DARE.

Seriously. I bought a 25-year-old car a couple of years ago with heated seats. They're about the only thing that works on that car. And had they somehow been for subscribers only back in 1995, I'm sure they would've been bricked by now.

pplains, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 03:56 (four years ago)

im gonna start charging the car companies a subscription to me paying their asses

class project pat (m bison), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 03:59 (four years ago)

a guy from stellantis was saying the other day that amazon “started as an online bookstore” and that’s how they see themselves, at the first step of a journey that will take them from mere car makers to global colossuses of “mobility services” that follow you wherever you are. i just don’t see it. they can’t even make software for their own cars that people want to use.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 09:25 (four years ago)

pplains, thought you were dissing heated seats for a second and was going to throw down.

ma dmac's fury road (PBKR), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 12:30 (four years ago)

from mere car makers to global colossuses of “mobility services” that follow you wherever you are.

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, December 15, 2021 4:25 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah this is how people justify teslas stock price too + theyre going to dominate the new reality of putting a battery in everything

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 13:57 (four years ago)

whats funny is tesla hasnt besides bailing out musks shitty solar company shown any indication towards moving beyond personal cars, most companies seriously working on level 5 self driving are looking at a robo taxi model because the technology is too expensive for a personal vehicle, but tesla just used a cheaper approach that does not work because theyre committed to personal vehicles

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 14:34 (four years ago)

and then they still charge you $10k for it lol, good work if you can get it

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 14:36 (four years ago)

Would never diss heated seats.

When I say they're about the only things that work in the car, I'm also including the heating system, so yeah, they do come in handy.

pplains, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 14:55 (four years ago)

Would never diss heated seats.

When I say they're about the only things that work in the car, I'm also including the heating system, so yeah, they do come in handy.

pplains, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 14:55 (four years ago)

That IS the heating system buddy

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 15:26 (four years ago)

You're more right than you might think. My vents are blocked, but the defroster kinda still works.

pplains, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 15:39 (four years ago)

wonder if people will start hacking their way around those subscription services, theyre already in the computers tuning engines and whatnot

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 16:22 (four years ago)

jailbreaking your own car. cool future.

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 16:41 (four years ago)

farmers do exactly that with their tractors https://www.vice.com/en/article/xykkkd/why-american-farmers-are-hacking-their-tractors-with-ukrainian-firmware

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 17:14 (four years ago)

I’ve been saying for a while now that I fully expect a future with region locked vehicles. I didn’t think of the subscription models tho, jeez.

Kim, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 18:10 (four years ago)

chill out concept

https://i.imgur.com/nwuBbAu.png

lag∞n, Friday, 17 December 2021 13:56 (four years ago)

I want to be a forward-looking denizen of the present but that article made me realize how deep in my bones I want an electric restomod of the ‘87 Camry I had in high school

it had rubber bumpers!

nicole, Friday, 17 December 2021 15:42 (four years ago)

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/12/heres-how-much-hyundais-cool-new-ioniq-5-ev-will-cost/

oof. guess i'm getting a hybrid f150 then

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 December 2021 17:57 (four years ago)


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