Is there not any way to address the ilx bullying?

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I mean, look, I get that people think I'm too sensitive about the "race war" accusations. But I've asked time and time again for this to please be dropped and not brought up again. The same ilxors keep bringing it up again and again in completely out of context threads and I'm tired of the mods turning a blind eye to it. I understand there's a sizable contingent here that wants to cultivate of "culture of zings" or whatever it's called this week, but I feel that if someone can point to a specific thing they would like to stop, I think those wishes should be respected. It's clear that 'Flag Post' for those posters that bring up the "race war" thing does absolutely nothing. I feel like the mods are turning a blind eye to this, or in the case of Matt DC today, actively supporting it. Telling me I need to "shut the fuck up" if I want him to do something about it is not solid modding, imho.

I just think that if an ilxor asks for certain insinuations and references to stop, those wishes should be respected. I know there are several ilxors who want to keep allusions to thier irl identity verboten, which is totally fair and valid. I'm confused as to why this can't be the case across the board when someone makes a specific request.

So I guess my question is, will the mods actually do something about this whole "race war" thing by specific posters that keep bringing it up again and again? Or are we really just going to let the bullies run rampant and ignore people's reasonable requestes? (and, fwiw, no matter how ridiculous some people think it is, my request to not be associated with "race war" is pretty fucking reasonable) If the latter is the case, then I'm not sure ilx is worth sticking around for anymore.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 January 2013 17:18 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm not a mod, but I used to play one on tv. I want to dissect what I think happened on the literary clusterfuck thread. (I didn't read the thread in excruciating detail.)

1. The ILX Commentariat convenes on Topic X
2. Topic X is discussed
3. After a few score or few hundred posts, as it is wont to do, the ILX Commentariat expands the discussion to Broad Category A which contains Topic X, as well as Rhetoric and Debate Tactics in discussing all of the above.

4. This happens:
Oh boy the part of the ilx clusterfuck where make judgment call on other ilxors, awesome.

― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, January 10, 2013 3:56 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

-----(six minutes later)-----

Sorry that post of mine wasn't particularly helpful and definitely not needed, just, get sick of when these threads turn into ilxors sniping at each other (no matter how obliquely).

― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:02 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

It's this thing you do -- instead of commenting about Topic X, you comment about ILX's debate on Topic X; instead of any opinion on Topic Z, you drop a snide one on ILX's discussion of Topic Z. It's a pretty darned common response from you, and if you can't figure out why people play Whack-a-Mole whenever you pop up in threads doing that, then my sympathy is limited. Advice: (1) get one self-awareness, (2) think before you post, and (3) quit playing Thread Cop.

I really believe that if you had gotten involved in the Alisa Valdes discussion, I mean actually discussing the literary clusterfuck and not ILX's reaction to the literary clusterfuck, and mordy and lagoon and amon and whoever had started that stupid race war shit out of nowhere, you'd have a mod on your side. But if your main contribution to ILX is to constantly remind ILX of how horrible ILX is...dude, zzzzzzzzzz. We know, already.

aloo mutter, aloo fatter (WilliamC), Friday, 11 January 2013 17:48 (five years ago) Permalink

For the avoidance of doubt - this sort of pile-on is as usual a pretty good showcase for all of ILX's worst qualities. My post was an expression of exasperation with all sides. I do not actually support what anyone's doing to you, but then again you were accusing mods of actually supporting bullying before I even posted on the thread.

There's not that much that can be done, short of banning every single person involved, which is neither necessary nor practical, and I don't think it will be particularly helpful. You too, Jon, were being pretty combative on the thread from the start, and you have your own history of being nasty and poisonous to posters as well, when you're in the mood to be. I know you don't really think you are, but you're as guilty of shitting up that thread as anyone else (and I'm aware it was a clusterfuck before you got involved).

Ultimately, it can't be fun for you to have to go through this every so often, but at the end of the day no one is libeling you really, no one is posting your real name (as far as I'm aware), no one is actually linking you to anything, or making genuine personal attacks. Anyone repeatedly doing this under a real name would find themselves given a sitewide ban pretty fucking quickly. You are not actually being associated with a race war. So many people have been subjected to so much worse on this message board it isn't funny.

I mean I think Lagoon and Amon are broadly speaking terrible posters when they're involved in this sort of thing, and I'm not very fond of you either. But it's exasperating and boring and a complete waste of everyone's time so I'm sticking it back on the autoreplace list.

Now please, next time something like this happens, take a deep breath and get some perspective before flying off the handle.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:50 (five years ago) Permalink

pottery

iatee, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:52 (five years ago) Permalink

[MODERATOR EDIT NECESSARY FOR ALL OUR SANITY]

Matt DC, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:52 (five years ago) Permalink

race war

iatee, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:53 (five years ago) Permalink

WmC OTM.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:55 (five years ago) Permalink

autoreplace shenangins are worse then anything ever

bnw, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:55 (five years ago) Permalink

autoreplace just makes people want to talk about things more so I'm not sure that a race war autoreplace is gonna help much

iatee, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:56 (five years ago) Permalink

furthermore, it's time to stop with the frog pictures. every time I ask you to stop, I just get more frog pictures. real mature, guys...

frogbs, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:56 (five years ago) Permalink

Fwiw this isn't actually a lol autoreplace, I'm just bored of this.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:59 (five years ago) Permalink

it's like the Moebius, where time becomes a loop

time becomes a loop....

NINO CARTER, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:00 (five years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/4DFQb.png

乒乓, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Well, I guess I have my answer now. WmC, you are 100% right about the way I entered that thread and I shouldn't have posted what I did, hence my apology for it. But you really must not follow me on other threads, particularly on the ilm side if you think that's "all" I contribute.

But, hey, I'm not going to bother defending myself at a site I'm very clearly not wanted on.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 January 2013 18:01 (five years ago) Permalink

jon what you are doing right now is what most people know you for and think you contribute to ilx

you have exactly one enemy on ilx here is his picture:

http://www.themirrorlady.com/images/Chippendale-Mirror-5890.jpg

iatee, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:04 (five years ago) Permalink

had checked out of that thread like 2 days ago but now I have a reason to read it again, thx jon

乒乓, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:14 (five years ago) Permalink

I mean I think Lagoon and Amon are broadly speaking terrible posters when they're involved in this sort of thing, and I'm not very fond of you either.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/curly.johnson/images/firebowl.gif

flopson, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:24 (five years ago) Permalink

this fuckin craic of 'every complaint is equally valid' is shite, and i'm in a fuckin good mood with all of ilx lately.

Not every complaint is equally valid. Some complaints are stupid. This complaint is one of them. The last time you stormed off, three or four posters tried to engage with you on a separate thread and all you wanted to do was prolong drama and wallow, just like now.

It's not bullying and it's not personal for you to be expected to roll with a stupid childish fuckin racewar jab that nobody but nobody but gah fuckin NOBODY could take seriously.

Not all complaints are equally valid. Most ilxors have absolutely no problem with you aside from this absolute fuckin nonsense, myself included. Chill out and get over it ffs is a perfectly valid response in thus case- which is so far removed from the example you give above about using irl it's laughable.

let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Friday, 11 January 2013 18:27 (five years ago) Permalink

I was just searching for "[MODERATOR EDIT NECESSARY FOR ALL OUR SANITY]" to figure out what this is all about and so far the most helpful post I've found has been

I've also been searching for "[MODERATOR EDIT NECESSARY FOR ALL OUR SANITY]" on ilx, and every result I've clicked on is jon saying he will not tollerate this [MODERATOR EDIT NECESSARY FOR ALL OUR SANITY] stuff followed by a few random people making [MODERATOR EDIT NECESSARY FOR ALL OUR SANITY] comments.

― REBEL YELL FOR HUGS (Austerity Ponies), Friday, January 11, 2013 11:31 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Good thing I clicked on this thread.

pplains, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:33 (five years ago) Permalink

oh ffs.

pplains, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:34 (five years ago) Permalink

[MODERATOR EDIT NECESSARY FOR ALL OUR SANITY]

乒乓, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:34 (five years ago) Permalink

nbomb

pplains, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:35 (five years ago) Permalink

n-bomb

pplains, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:35 (five years ago) Permalink

well thank goodness that one's been cleared off the table.

pplains, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:36 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm sorry you got caught in nbomb fallout pplains but that is still one of the funniest posts I've ever seen on this site

Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, 11 January 2013 18:37 (five years ago) Permalink

race war

乒乓, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:38 (five years ago) Permalink

ilx bullying is funny and cool

once & future (Lamp), Friday, 11 January 2013 18:38 (five years ago) Permalink

autoreplace is not

once & future (Lamp), Friday, 11 January 2013 18:39 (five years ago) Permalink

I think I'm gonna like it here.

tsrobodo, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:39 (five years ago) Permalink

Dr. & Mrs. ILX Bullying

how's life, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:39 (five years ago) Permalink

tsrobodo guilty of trying to start a few race wars himself

乒乓, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:40 (five years ago) Permalink

we must protest

♨ (am0n), Friday, 11 January 2013 18:45 (five years ago) Permalink

I mostly agree with Darragh and our esteemed former mod but I also think it must be difficult to deal with zingy posters knowing there's a buzzword that pushes your buttons so I have some sympathy with jon via cheeto and think it would be best if everyone just let go.

Stop Gerrying Me! (onimo), Friday, 11 January 2013 18:45 (five years ago) Permalink

no, that's fair tbh.

let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Friday, 11 January 2013 18:46 (five years ago) Permalink

Who, me? Never.

tsrobodo, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:47 (five years ago) Permalink

most ppl learn to ignore teasing by fourth grade

i guess all the warring may have interfered with ur education tho

mookieproof, Friday, 11 January 2013 19:50 (five years ago) Permalink

was in a t[MODERATOR EDIT NECESSARY FOR ALL OUR SANITY] in 4th grade art. I traced a a picture of larry johnson dunking a basketball that was on fire with lightning in the background. my buddy traced a nice picture of a river with "Your love is like a river. Peaceful and deep." written above it. nobody wins a t[MODERATOR EDIT NECESSARY FOR ALL OUR SANITY]

Binder, Binder & (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 11 January 2013 21:01 (five years ago) Permalink

susan g. komen race for the war

♨ (am0n), Friday, 11 January 2013 21:12 (five years ago) Permalink


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