Modding of I love TMI

explain this: sometimes it burns when i pee

"jaguerreotyping"

LØUIS JAGGER

jouis lagger.

that's offensive

doesn't fuckin' magnets, how do they work? work too?

oh

louis xvi

that's offensive

really? not sure how, but i hope you know that no offense was intended.

dude if i took offence at that then i'd have to take weapons-grade offence like 7 times a day - and ilx would be kinda shitty if that were the case :D

you'd make a lousy jaguar

so what's going on with this now?

What's up? You need me to take care of something?

uh, there was a banning the other day, and then an unbanning, and now Kate's banned from the board, so i was just wondering ...

maybe this is a TMI board regular asking for TMI about TMI moderation?

Oh . . . well I had nothing to do with any of that. As far as I understand it all the sitewide mods can do that sort of thing on ILTMI but so can Tuomas and I. I believe that Kate still had mod privileges on ILTMI too. Maybe she banned herself? I missed whatever happened - sorry I can't be more helpful in regards to that.

- xpost - ha. maybe.

All I can say is - it wasn't me and I don't know nuffin'.

Can one ban oneself?

just wanted to say it wasn't just sarahel wondering bout this, but tbh was fecked if i was gonna be the one to ask.

if you ban YOURSELF, can you unban YOURSELF, because if that's true then your first ban wasn't a true ban imo

kenan said he was just as confused about the whole thing as i am

I don't know guys. Like I said, I had nothing to do with it but it does actually look like you can ban yourself from a board as a mod. That said, I'm not going to hit "ban user" and actually see what happens. Maybe someone who knows more can be more helpful. In the meantime if anyone has any issues on ILTMI and I'm don't seem to be around and posting you can always webmail me. :D

ban kate

i for one do not feel comfortable talking about the modding of ILTMI when kenan can just come in and make a sarcastic quip at any moment.

I wasn't around for this; is there a chance that there was a glitch and Kenan was never actually banned? Did he attempt to post to the thread after the ban and get blocked?

i think so, but i'm not 100% sure

So no one has visibility as to whom banned Kenan or K?

considering her last post to that thread, my suspicion is that she banned herself

no. no one can tell who executed admin actions -- even mods, even for actions that are logged.

I didnt know that, interesting.

A secret cadre of übertrolls engineered that thread to back kate into a corner and leave her no choice but to take actions that would appear controlling, paranoid, and crazy to any outside observers unfamiliar with their devious machinations.

misread machinations as machete - carry on

rip magical supermod menu

I've been down with the flu, so I haven't really paid attention to ILTMI for the last couple of days. I haven't banned or unbanned anyone.

ban l0u1s jagg3r

Okay, I read the thread that apparently lead to all this, so here's my two cents:

Kate, I know that Kenan can sometimes make insensitive comments, and I understand the need to have a women-only spaces, or threads. (I'm all for the "No boys allowed" thred on 1P3.) And I have nothing against deleting pointless "funny" remarks from a serious thread. However, in this case it didn't look like Kenan had actually done anything wrong yet (it's not like he's always insensitive), so pre-emptively banning him from the thread was unnecessary. And it didn't look like the other female posters on the thread wanted it to be women only, so their wishes should've been respected too.

Basically, I don't think Kate should be banned from ILTMI, but at this point she shouldn't be an ILTMI mod. I thought that already happened when ENBB was made a mod, but apparently not. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh Kate, but it looks like the consensus on what ILTMI should be like goes against you mod decisions. I completely understand the need to have a forum to discuss stuff safely, with no fear of any unwanted comments, but ILTMI is still supposed to be an open forum. (Though I have to say the discussion there has mostly been quite good-natured, with little need for moderation.) There are other places on the net where you can have safe discussions. In fact, I'm all for you having your own subboard again, where you are the single mod, and can regulate the threads differently than on ILTMI. ILTMI was never supposed be like IDME, but if the site mods can create a new IDME, I think that would be a reasonable solution to this whole problem.

A measured and diplomatic post... thankyou T.

Measured and diplomatic, with a hint of Finnish faux-naive troll.

lol

eh maybe lock thread?

free dom

K de-modded and removed herself from TMI because the mods she contacted didn't reply to her explanations of why she mods ILTMI the way she does. There's an angry and depressed post on her blog entitled "burn the witch" which you're not going to like if you don't like that kind of thing so I'm not going to link to it here.

I still want to know if the software behind the board was working properly when the thread ban was attempted. I know it's glitched for me in the past and I want to rule out that it glitched here.

kenan was just banned from thread iirc

if you ban yourself or are banned while you have mod privileges you can come back and ban others, at least on subboards, or at least you used to be able to, but thats all you can do

sorry if this has been covered already

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt203/pplains/533654825_52b83769d9_z.jpg

Assuming the software was working correctly, one of three things happened:

- Another ILTMI mod unbanned Kenan; I don't see what either would gain from it, plus both have explicitly stated they didn't and I believe them.

- A sitemod unbanned Kenan; so far, no one is taking credit for this. If someone DID do this, IMO that person should not be a sitemod anymore. No exceptions.

- Someone's figured out how to hack the site. Kind of can't do anything about that unless we can actually prove it and recreate how it was done.

Basically, because the admin log was turned off for ILTMI, there's no record of who did what on the board. The simplest explanations are either a software failure (ie, the site gave the incorrect impression that Kenan was banned, or some subsequent action intended to do something else cleared out Kenan's ban), a user error (ie, when Kate attempted to ban Kenan, she mistakenly clicked off of the confirmation page) or a sitemod failure (a sitemod decided to rescind the ban without, at a bare minimum, notifying the other sitemods as to the reasoning behind the decision). At the moment, we don't have enough information to investigate the first two and no one is fessing up on the third option.

Board policy in recent years has shifted away from giving people private sub-boards. I am not against the idea of a women-only board but I would like to see more support for it from the community before creating it. I have no real opinion on who would moderate it; that should be decided by the people using it.

hmm

hackers, def hackers

kenan was just banned from thread iirc

Who unbanned him from that thread is the question, I think. Kate, ENBB and Tuomas were the ILTMI mods, and they didn't do it. None of the sitewide mods know who did it. It was his unbanning from that thread that upset Kate. I, for one, did not jump in and re-ban Kenan from that thread because I prefer to find out what's going on in a situation before I take any action, unless there's an obvious urgent need. Right now the "who unbanned Kenan" mystery still has the sitewides baffled. I regret that we don't act quickly enough or communicate quickly enough to suit Kate, but frankly, she has a hair-trigger and there's no such thing as moving quickly enough or communicating quickly enough to suit Kate.

Mods don't do, or fail to do, anything in order to spite any ILXor.

xposts, was composing that while HI DERE posted.

- A sitemod unbanned Kenan; so far, no one is taking credit for this. If someone DID do this, IMO that person should not be a sitemod anymore. No exceptions.

i do not share y.o.