an open letter to the mods from Whiney G. Weingarten

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Anyway, caek and some dude have a point; their distrust in me and my judgment is going to make whatever I do as a moderator seem suspect and making mistakes like letting someone who is actively attempting to frustrate me succeed reinforces that.

I am, for better or worse, firmly of the opinion that actively attempting to frustrate and annoy a moderator (Note: not a poster; in this particular instance, I was, as a site mod, asking a poster to change a display name that others, including Whiney, had found offensive, and Whiney was spending his time derailing his own thread and making the situation worse than the offensive display name was. I have not and have never used moderation powers against someone who was arguing with me poster to poster and, aside from the entirely unlikely case of people suddenly deciding to drop n-bombs at me, I never will.) opens you to having moderation action taken against you. If you disagree with that and feel you have a better way, I offer you my moderation powers (pending approval from the other site mods).

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link

the g. stood for goatse all along

faux-naif vs concern troll deathmatch (buzza), Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link

an open letter to the mob from hi dere imo.

Personally can't think of anyone i'd want to take over, as well to say that as i'm sure there'll be plenty naysayers with 2c each

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Dear Roxy,

Why did you lock the diarrhea diarrhea thread on 1p3 iirc?

~Whiney

am0n, Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Suggest rolling "ILXor's Top Mod" competition.

Owner of a Homely Face (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link

caek 4 mod!

ice cr?m, Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe there should be a rotating monthly mod spot, just to see what it 'feels like'

dayo, Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribune

Owner of a Homely Face (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link

make caek and al shipley mods

max, Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^^^

http://rtfitch.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/fireworks.jpg

ice cr?m, Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link

GOOD LUCK ILXORA

ice cr?m, Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I just wanna say that in about 90% of cases I completely agree with Dan's mod decisions. While I don't necessarily agree with him in this case, apparently 51+ people did. This kinda astounds me because I don't really see anything offensive about WGW's style of posting, but there have been loud protests in the past against SBeanings that I thought were completely justified. Guess it takes all kinds to make this community. I don't have a conclusion for this thought. Peace.

What if mod was one of us? (kkvgz), Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link

ice cr?m for mod

am0n, Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link

we all scr?m for ice cr?m

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link

no no come on u guys we all know i would make dan look like *attempting to think of a well known reasonable politician*

ice cr?m, Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

think of an attractive one, plz

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't want to be ugly

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i36.tinypic.com/wbvxv5.gif

am0n, Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

lol xp

ice cr?m, Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

jjjusten for mod

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

fuck you man I aint no screw

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link

i think i should be mod mod not mod

caek, Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

we should have a knockout poll tournament after a nominations thread.

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link

if modding's gonna be an arbitrary popularity contest then fuckit, lets get real on dis ting

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I do love how people nominations for mod are "let's have a mod who would never ban an awesome bro no matter what he said" -- great look, that

honkin' on joey kramer (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link

i think we would all ban whiney permanently given the chance. no one is disagreeing with that.

caek, Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

honkin' on joey kramer (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

aerosmith for mod

samosa gibreel, Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah see dan acknowledging that you're gonna send people to their rooms if they annoy mod-hat hi dere is the kind of paternalistic bs that ppl legitimately have beef with - adopt a more even-handed perspective or please stop being a mod

xp aero no one is saying that, and most of the noms are jokes. al would be an excellent mod I think

wakafledia (k3vin k.), Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

my first act as mod will be to auto-embed coroner songs into every thread

honkin' on joey kramer (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Since peeps are bringing up the idea that whiney is not necc the biggest asshole on the site, just the most visible, this is prob a good time to bring up that the same thing kinda applies to whatever mod is the "problem" mod at any given point. the problem is that dudes want mod actions to be visible and explained, but when we do that, it normally turns into a bunch of accusations of hardmanning or meanness or snarkiness or whatever. it'd be WAY easier to just mod without transparency, and lots of sites do exactly that, but thats not how ilx works or should work. this same thing applies to the circling the wagons deal - if we didnt try to explain why a mod action was taken or how certain systematic stuff works, no one would think that, because youd never hear any explanation in the first place.

tbh im not crazy about tying this further into this thread since i think its counterproductive to talk about sorta the big mod concerns in a poster/situation specific thread, but i would be totally down with starting a general mod concerns thread or some such if peeps want to hash some of this out.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link

not knowing all that being a mod really entails i would be into a tryout period to see if i like it or would do an acceptable job but i'm not gonna actively campaign for it or anything, i don't sincerely thing regime change is the only answer here

some dude, Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

i got an open letter from the weingartenment the other day

am0n, Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

i think dan was pretty clear i explaining this tempban. If mods are taking crap for no other reason than being mods, why the fuck should they react as a normal poster?

Have zinged jj and dan many's the time and there was no 'paternalistic' repercussions. Maybe if you dont act like a brat you dont get sent to yr room i dunno seems p fuckin reasonable.

Reject hi dere's offer of resignation, ban kevin k.

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah see dan acknowledging that you're gonna send people to their rooms if they annoy mod-hat hi dere is the kind of paternalistic bs that ppl legitimately have beef with - adopt a more even-handed perspective or please stop being a mod

I read this as "Be better than we are, and never EVER show anger." You know, it's a nice ideal, and it IS the ideal -- it's what we shoot for. But you're not going to get it 100% of the time. Sorry.

Seriously, if you know of a messageboard with more even-tempered mods, please post a link -- I would love to see it and study it.

Unfrozen Caveman Board-Lawyer (WmC), Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't even care, man, I was tired of hearing that I personally was #1 fan of rape jokes and could not get enough of them.

17th Century Catholic Spain (Abbbottt), Thursday, 4 November 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Like having to hear that, multiple days in a row, in all-caps...it was a bullshit argument and pretty mean too, imo.

17th Century Catholic Spain (Abbbottt), Thursday, 4 November 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.80stees.com/images/products/Devo_Energy_Dome-Hat.jpg

^ mod-hat

am0n, Thursday, 4 November 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

haha "it could be worse" is always a great defense

poster does something out of line, gets a 27 day ban. mod does something out of line, beats around the bush for 200 posts while his buddies and british attack dog make excuses and gets no action taken against him. that seems to be what happens

wakafledia (k3vin k.), Thursday, 4 November 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^ This is why no one takes you seriously.

Matt DC, Thursday, 4 November 2010 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

wow dude i dont even really know what to say to you at this point

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 4 November 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

aint sb'd u yet man, but just for confirmation did u just refer to me as 'british'?

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 November 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I do.

Fuck off, you little child. This is why you are worthless.

SB away.

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Thursday, 4 November 2010 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Have fun being a mod, some dude.

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Thursday, 4 November 2010 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Part of me feels like I am letting the terrorists win but honestly it is 100% worth it.

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Thursday, 4 November 2010 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I gotta say obv dan can do whatever he wants but the chances of anyone getting elected as new mod out of this clusterfuck is like 0%. no offense to some dude, but 10 hyped up peeps snapping at each other (myself included in that number btw) isnt the best way to find out who works as a site wide mod.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 4 November 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link

it's like when sean connery unloads on the warden at the end of 'the hill'

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 November 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link

going to restate my no permanent mods idea b/c I think it does well to diminish the us vs. them on both sides. also keeps general moderation more fluid and flexible.

String Yr BLOBs (bnw), Thursday, 4 November 2010 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

more fuiud

faux-naif vs concern troll deathmatch (buzza), Thursday, 4 November 2010 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link

But the "us vs them" is totally overexaggerated, it's like 15 posters maximum who get involved in this sort of mod-bashing and because they shout loudly and get involved in 500-post clusterfucks they convince themselves there's a major problem, when actually there isn't.

'No permanent mods' is very harsh on mods like Abbott and Ned and WmC who generally just clear up things on request and don't get directly involved in these sort of things. Also rotating mods would see you pretty soon run out of people who both want to mod and are trusted by the coders to actually do so.

Matt DC, Thursday, 4 November 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link


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