a specific complaint

don't blame the player

Blogging about a message board is to meta for me to wrap my brain around

fiiiive deeeeez nuuuuts

― ice cr?m hand job (deej), Wednesday, November 25, 2009 4:57 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

looool

ten Whineys Whining
nine gabbnebs gabbing
eight Morbz a milking
seven heaves a ho-ing

pretty sure there's just 1 whiney whinin

and what in a pear tree

I take jjusten's comment as a warning that if we veer into that territory, this thread will be locked and end this discussion.

― sarahel, Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:29 PM (35 minutes ago)

yeah see actually it was just basically meant as "hey guys please dont be dicks" but hey, whatever.

thanks tho for keeping that discussion on track

wouldn't composing The 12 Days of Suggest Ban be a more productive activity?

and a pato in a pear tree

the 51 days of christmas

Blogging about a message board is to meta for me to wrap my brain around

― and Susan Gucci as Erica Mane (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:01 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

kinda appreciated how she just launched into it like it was a totally ordinary topic - intense post def

xxp - i prefer "and what in a pear tree" tbh

so sarahel, the next time you ask for a clarification on a mod policy, im just going to tell you that the question was answered but you probably missed it because you were to busy making up christmas songs about sbs

intense post def

Yeah seriously. I think it's made real evident that people get different things out of this board.

When I got SB'd my reaction was "Well, that's annoying."

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xp - maybe you should suggest that Tuomas makes up christmas songs about sbs rather than asking for clarification on a mod policy that's been clarified in about a dozen threads already. But I'm not a mod, so maybe you have better advice as far as that's concerned.

see ya j0rdan

D:

ok this really has gone too far now

i mean whos next? max? ME?

a: yes, prob in that order

lol

tbf now i wish id known who that chick was so i couldve sb'd her

peace out j0rdan 420 kill a hippie everyday

this has gone too lol

he was just here posting 55mins ago ;_;

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oh jesus christ

oh ok jordan rip actually, this sucks, esp after my impassioned appeal

wouldn't composing The 12 Days of Suggest Ban be a more productive activity?

more like the 120 days

120 days of sbdom

I've always liked Kate and even when she's gotten really facepalm.jpg I've never SBed her b/c overall I think she adds a lot to ILM, but I totally woulda SBed that blog post.

XXXXXXpost bc of internet conx. - Looks like it'll be a very Sargent Xmas!

Things turned ugly around the end of July/beginning of August. A long-term ILX poster - Mark Craig, aka Bimble - committed suicide, while under a Suggest Ban. I was in contact with him via email through the whole period leading up to, and after his banning, up to a few days before his death. I was well aware of the other issues he was facing in his life, both emotional and physical, during the lead-up to this devastating decision, and despite the allegations of a former ILX0r with an obvious axe to grind, AT THE TIME, I honestly believed that the Suggest Ban had little or nothing to do with his death. If anything, he seemed happier, more engaged with life, without the constant drag of negativity that others' reactions to his particularly ebullient posting style and sexuality.

Now I've actually been dealt a suggest ban myself, and am dealing with the emotional fallout of it, I'm not so sure.

Oh FFS. This is really really not on, as much so as Momus's post on that issue. I'd say more but I'd frankly be too damn rude.

yah i gotta say accusing the mods of assisting in bimble's suicide is a bit much

J3sus C.

― max, Wednesday, November 25, 2009 4:43 PM (1 hour ago)

looool i texted j this exact thing, did not see u beat me to it

suffering from severe mental health issues is a horrible thing for anyone to have to go through, but there is an aspect of responsibility that ppl need to address if they're in this situation: MB talks about how she's been part of the ilx community for 9yrs, but from what i can gather it's been a pretty tumultuous 9yrs, and it has always been her choice to keep participating. it's not like 2 days ago she got the shock of her life that ppl here aren't all sunshine and roses.

if participating on a msg board can impact your life to the extent that you feel suicidal, then i really think you need to stop participating. several thousand ppl posting to a msg board just cannot be expected to be responsible for the mental well-being of one particular poster.

the real issue - imo - is not suggestban or ppl being mean or personality issues, it's just doing what's best for your own mental health, and if that means not posting here, then don't. this is not THE WHOLE INTERNET - there are plenty of other ways to communicate with the friends you make here, ilx isn't the be-all-and-end-all (as my mum would say).

100% OTM

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xp Justin3 and darraghmac: the thing for me is just being a party to something where the person might not make the best choices for their mental health. I mean, it's not like we're responsible - the choice rests with the person with the issues - and I'm talking in general, not specifically about Kate - but it's hard not to feel somewhat complicit.

"if participating on a msg board can impact your life to the extent that you feel suicidal, then i really think you need to stop participating."

i think her point in that paragraph was that although it doesn't seem like an sb should be such a heavy trip, when it's you, it hurts way more than you would have guessed. if you read that as "ILM MODS ASSIST IN BOARDER SUICIDE" i think that is "a bit much."

that said, i usually enjoyed reading her pov, hope she comes back.

also, i see i conflated two different posts there. sorry to misrepresent your positions, deej and just1n3.

to clarify then:

deej, i dont read her comment quite the same way you did.

just1n3, i think her point was that people, mentally ill included, might not foresee how severely an sb could affect them.

honestly i'm just sorta shocked to hear about bimble, that's really terrible news

but part of my point is that she's been here long enough to know what effect this board, and its ppl, have on her. she has accused ilx and it many of its members of being malicious etc many times before. it's not like any of this has come out of the blue. she's also left for extended periods before.

youre a hard woman beth, whatever her issues she clearly found real solace and comfort in ilx and for someone to lose that for no good reason is fucking shitty.

"no good reason" = the whole problem with these clusterfucks. i get that for x number of posters, these people are banned for "no good reason". the problem is that for a whole bunch (uh 51 to be specific) of other posters, there is plenty of good reason for them to be banned. its fine to say that you disagree with them, but reducing it to no good reason just means that you think that their opinions/feelings/etc dont matter.

very noble John I just have a slightly less optimistic view of human nature/group dynamics!

exactly! how many of these 51 posters are just hitting the button for the lols? as a typical dick move? 100%? prob not. 0%? prob not.

i can't imagine clicking it with anything less than complete seriousness

is that sarcasm or...

If the guiding policy of ilx is "don't be a dick", how do you control for dicks dickishly hitting the SB button?

you get 1 sb for every sb you give.