is banning posters for beefing with mods really what we want to do?

serious question

haha wait is D-40 actually banned now?

(my answer is no)

(to the thread title question that is)

You can disagree with mods, sure, but behaving like an arsehole to people who volunteer chunks of their time to keep this site alive is not on.

i don't think this needed a separate thread, but while we're here, i think demanding a different standard of civility for dealing with mods as opposed to other posters is a new idea and a poor precedent. with respect, like.

"punching up" type shithead behaviour towards volunteer mods who're pretty decent ppl on a pretty decent msg board is cuntish behaviour imo ftr

obviously deej went a little overboard with the name-calling, and i guess the fact that it was in a thread title made it worse, but it seems that things had cooled down after that until stet decided to go unilateral.

you could make a reasonable argument that making a thread title like that is sort of asking for suicide-by-cop, but...a permaban?

xps

Can someone sum up in like a sentence or two what happened?

if i become a mod can i retrospectively ban ppl who have spoken ill of me?

lol @ this garbage

the fracas started not when D-40 beefed with a mod but when he used Joan Crawford's government name (for which he was initially unapologetic). then he got locked out of the thread in question (the Gawker thread btw) and then he started a thread on the Mod Request forum titled "You Guys are Chickenshits Idiots", lots of namecalling commenced.

xxp

lol come on "you guys are chickenshit idiots" was the funniest thread title i'd seen in months

xpost Ah thanks!

(fyi this may the one and only time I've been able to follow the sequence of events of one of these types of inter-board firefights)

We should be able to insult the mods if we can insult other posters. You don’t get special treatment because you decided to take on more responsibility, and some of you basically don’t deserve respect.

http://www.bookwormroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Donald-Trump-on-administrations-chickenshit-insult-to-Netanyahu.png

hahaha

2015: The Summer of Beef

I think it's fair to insult the mods like you would other posters if its in the context of their posting as a poster

in the course of their modding as a mod, obv and demonstrably best not to, also its dickish

http://www.sindelsuniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/cartman-500-x-341.jpg

If you think their modding sucks, you should be able to say it sucks. And sometimes being mean about it might be justified too.

Can someone sum up in like a sentence or two what happened?

― markers, Wednesday, July 22, 2015 9:25 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ask Beeves

I joined this site because I believed it was a place we could get in online arguments w/ people in positions of power. I feel like banning deej is ilx's reichstag fire...mods are redesigning the site to go after the google adsense money.

Ha clearly I am a living example of "yes, you can insult mods on ILX"

stfu jjj this isnt about u

Haha

the ban is some 'resisting arrest' nonsense

I think, rather than banning posters for beefing with mods qua mods, the beefing posters should be punished with temporary mod powers.

wait so you joined the site so you could fight w/mods iatee?

As for the adsense jibe, it would be nice not to have the only options be a) pay for this all myself, b) deal with the huge currency/tax/fees/logistics/stress ball-ache of a yearly fundraiser. But just ftr, whenever it has ever come down to a call between adsense money and the site, the site has always won. The only exceptions are when posts are edited to remove images that have become malware, or posts that would have been nixed anyway.

There are hardly any ads left on the site because everytime Google complains I reduce the areas ads are shown rather than change the content.

He was making a joke wrt the Gawker situation.

oh shit, also, deej is not a permaban, it's 30 days.

Was c word username banned for doing the exact same thing and then becoming mrf village idiot for like a month, cause I don't remember it if so and I think I would remember, that while episode was lols

*whole

If you think their modding sucks, you should be able to say it sucks. And sometimes being mean about it might be justified too.

markers reveals himself as a deep-dyed idealist and romantic itt. of course, his ideal is being able to call anyone a chickenshit idiot any time and anywhere he feels like and his romance is the romance of tantrums.

Your posting is the posting of badness.

30 days seems a bit excessive for essentially calling a mod a name. i mean we can't really be serious about this

i can't believe everyone is this upset about deej getting banned. it must just be the principle of the thing.

it is!

30 day ban for calling anyone including a mod a "chickenshit idiot" seems pretty harsh. that's not even a personal insult.

hey j0rd, how's it going?

woah wb

shoutout to the mods sincerely but i think if you take on the responsibility of authority you have to recognize that people are going to get mad at you and sometimes lash out, and this instance is really very benign. the ban is spiteful.

ppl reserving the right to lash out at mods are children

it does seem excessive, even if he was being a dick (which he was) but otoh I don't care that much, I cut the mods some slack given how well this place is run in general, and I'm sure D-40 can find something else useful to do for 30 days besides defend Gawker to a bunch of prickly jerks on a msg board soooo ... yeah I'm not too fired up about this.

honestly deej gets on everyone's nerves but "don't ban valuable members of the community over personal vendettas" doesn't seem like it's a lot to ask

i think another thing that is rubbing people the wrong way is the timing. how's life originally threadbanned him, then yellow cards him. dude seems like he has thick enough skin to handle being called a chickenshit idiot. everything seems cool until the next morning when someone else decides to ban him

hey j0rd, how's it going?

ban hows life what a giagantic chickenshit

xp lol

nobody came in and told me 'oh btw if you use j___ d____'s real name you'll be banned from the thread', that's never been a publicly stated rule as far as I know, it's not in the fucking FAQ

& ffs when it's happened to me in the past & i've had to personally email stet & ask him to edit my own name i figure its equally laissez faire for everyone, but nooo

this thread is a good litmus test of ilxor's political impulses

ya me and Stevie agree on all things political alright

kinda feel like everyone said their piece on this and then it turned out that fundamentally nobody gave a shit ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

my important opinion on this fwiw is I still think both the thread- and tempban were bs and I don't think it's bad form to say so, I mean the mods to their credit continue to maintain a board called "I must protest", good on them, <3 mods

really not sure what deej is trying to achieve here tho

in fairness to deej, by unilaterally banning him without allowing him to defend himself first, you almost ask for the issue to be brought up again in 30 days

or email at some point within the last month? That seems to me to be a more respectful & grown-up way to go about things idk

an edible arrangement with a note exactly 1 week after the incident

this seems like a good way to go about deciding who is & isn't banned...how well loved someone is by essential posters like mookieproof & mattresslessness

― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Saturday, August 22, 2015 11:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

But they are regular posters at least - they have views that I recognise and can assign to them. Who the fuck are you?

probly best if people only use that line if they follow ILX

Taking Sides : that idiot dn vs not realising why real naming certain posters might be on another level than real naming whoever you are vs starting your post-ban career with a cutesy half-real naming of the guy in question.

xp - I follow a fair amount of it, I'm not the mythical poster who reads all the threads, because they're mythical.

come the fuck on andrew

D-40 is a prominent poster! For better or worse. And I've got much love for the ~poster in question~ but are we really gonna get precious about ppl saying "jd"

ban (The Other) J.D. for his cutesy allusion to somebody's ACTUAL NAME already

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1484956/faq.png

lol otm

lol

hahaha

Okay fine - I don't remember seeing him outside the Gawker thread. Is he mostly ILM?

I'm not in favour of being precious about it, but in context it's a gun flash - hey here's a thing I could do again if I'm pissed off.

just search for his name

deej writes and argues about rap, he's been here forever

the search button is at the top of the screen. you might have to scroll up

So ILM, that's fine.

were there a thread of missing him on a secret board, it would be a stillborn thread, sadly

"Who the fuck are you?" is such an awful, bad faith rhetorical tactic

When we ask people who they are, it should be in a spirit of openness and curiosity.

you tell em

darragh that's political impulses as in instincts re: power not economic policy or w/e

were there a thread of missing him on a secret board, it would be a stillborn thread, sadly

― Hi, my name's David and I quit (wins), Sunday, August 23, 2015 10:51 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Damn tell me how u really feel

If I cared that much I would have emailed but I'm ok w shaming idiots for their incoherently applied "principles" which amount to little more than ilx popularity contest bullshit

he said he feels sadly. you got a problem with that?

I want to note that I went and changed my dname to d-jerk reactions this am but changed it without using it cos why be a dick I don't dislike deej I just think he's eh a guy i dont have any ilx interaction with who veers towards trollish challops and brattish tantrums and we've all been that soldier.

but with that in mind, constantly referring to ilx popularity contests as the reason why he's just out of chokey as opposed to the behaviours that might be losing him ilx popularity contests also lending weight to mod decisions to tempban is nagl

these are mods that have gone en masse to bat for far more loathed posters than himself iirc and imo

here's a clue, deej. look at your current dn and ask yourself, what does this say about me to the rest of ilx?

if your answer is 'this is the dn of a bold, forthright man of integrity who proudly defies a world too timid, shallow and conventional to accept his vision of truth,' then perhaps you should think again.

I think it's just a metaphor.

deej might be mistaking ILX mods for 'the man'. He might think that he's 'fighting the power'. But no.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1484956/deejologies.png

deep thoughts itt

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1484956/sarcasm.png

e = m(ods)c(hickenshit)^2

e equals m times ods times c times hickenshit squared?

nyah fuckit

"Who the fuck are you?" is such an awful, bad faith rhetorical tactic

― Treeship, Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:02 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

When we ask people who they are, it should be in a spirit of openness and curiosity.

― Treeship, Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:03 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

:)

Deej

sarcasm

i died

Hoos the fuck are you?

hoos hoos

hoos hoos

all this over deej threatening to k.o. a chickenshit hillbilly

lmao am0n

I CHALLENGE THIS BAN

wait no i don't