Missin U <3 - lamentations for those felled by the SB

bang up job by marcello in his comment on momus' blog post where he says that the suggest ban was "inevitably" going to lead to someone killing themselves "sooner or later". also where he says that he heard "vague suggestions" that the suggest ban feature was implemented as some sort of ilx auschwitz so that the board could be "cleaned up" in order to attract "commercial sponsors"

I have heard VERY vague suggestions through the grapevine that the SB thing is an attempt to "clean up" ILx in the hope of attracting future commercial sponsors to keep the boards going financially. If true - I have no idea whether it is, but wouldn't be at all surprised if it were - then the veneer of democracy is going to fade very quickly indeed.

er WHAT???

if ever there were a pair to judge social behavior....

I mean come the fuck on. In what universe does that make any kind of sense whatsoever?

i trust our masonic mod overlords to make the best decisions for ilx -_-

new ile board description please

most posters are mad, socially awkward, impacifiable nutters who'll steer multiple coastal miles off a topic.

oh max

in the worst case they might be afraid to say anything that might be in any way considered "controversial"

This is the best possible outcome, actually.

btw i finally read momuss post--lot of a+ stuff going on there but i think the best part is at the end when he champions the exoticization and romanticization of gypsies as being good for their community and their tourism dollars

I'm getting better. I just managed to control myself and not post something that probably would have got me a SB, even by mine own criteria.

I like the idea of giving someone banned some idea of the context behind their banning. I also like the idea of having an automatic unban counter because sometimes I/we forget exactly when someone was banned and don't unban them immediately on the day their ban should be up. I also like the idea of the system notifying the moderators that someone has crossed the threshold rather than automatically banning them.

people got really pissed when non-mods said this :P

People can change their minds!

(although in this case, I always thought those were good ideas but I did not like the way they were presented)

just wanted to offer my support for a system that lets the user know if they are getting SBs...

if it's too difficult to write code that will tell people what specific posts got them banned, even just having the system display a running tally of SBs to the account might be good. so, someone is grouchy and drunk, and posts a bunch of bile to a few threads, and then logs in the next day and sees 15 SBs on the 'boards' front page, and it's pretty obvious to that person why. doesn't have to be post specific. ILX users say, "you were an asshole last night", person corrects behavior, maybe puts more thought before trolling or being abusive next time.

I also think it would be great if there were a way to make it so that every 7, or maybe 14, days someone doesn't get a SB, an SB drops off their tally. so, basically one person's SB counts for 14 days if the target doesn't accumulate another during that time.

I would also love to see if I have any SBs. ;)

I know that I probably have loads, and I just don't want to know.

:-(

I also think it would be great if there were a way to make it so that every 7, or maybe 14, days someone doesn't get a SB, an SB drops off their tally. so, basically one person's SB counts for 14 days if the target doesn't accumulate another during that time.

^^^this

btw not enough has been said about the graphixx on momuss blog post

(Thanks/sorry WmC 3 hours ago)

Trying to find anything in those LJ comments makes me totally glad ILX is non-threading. Which I guess is a good sign to stop caring about them and find something better to do.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/imomus/more/exclu1.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/imomus/more/exclu2.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/imomus/more/exclu4.jpg

i mean i want to say this is the best one, for the excellent hyperbole, but theres something so sweet and touching about the stock photos

really makes you think

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/imomus/more/exclu0.jpg

of course this is the real winner, because you can hear momus saying to himself, whats the best way to illustrate my challopsy point--why of course, a stock photo of paper people superimposed over ATHENS... DEMOCRACY... EXCLUSION... DO U SEE

DO U SEE

he left himself out as the figure above all the others scratching his chin while pissing on them

http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1560/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1560R-2054192.jpg

http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/education/assets/social_exclusion.jpg

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/4565111/2/istockphoto_4565111-gummy-bear-exclusion.jpg

dunno dr phil maybe if we superimposed those pics over one of these wed be in business??

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dLX8mq1PrPM/SeY55GmProI/AAAAAAAAAFw/34HlQy018-Q/S1600-R/Signing+of+Declaration+Indep.jpg

http://sites.google.com/a/crshields.com/webquest/_/rsrc/1239898200958/Home/kristallnacht.gif

http://passaicnews.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/iran-protest.jpg

That gummi bear pic makes me sad, I hope we aren't doing that to the poor gummi bear. :(

http://i28.tinypic.com/inqwqg.jpg

i think a better image analogy is that comical illustration some guy did in which IE6 is not allowed in the other browsers treehouse because it's so shit

how about this. when you SB someone, the system sends an email to a random ilxer telling that ilxer the name of the person who got the s-ban, and for what post. the person who receives the email may then contact the SBannee if he/she likes, or may simply choose to just drop hints here and there - "I feel obligated to let the thread know that a certain someone might be interested in knowing what sort of response his postings are getting from one or more members of the community," etc. in addition, a person who believes his postings are getting him s-bans left and right might start writing to random ilxers: "do you know something? are you getting notifications about me?" no-one ever has to answer these emails, but it is important that they get written, and sent. I know that this suggestion is nowhere near the triumph that was my earlier proposal, but that one didn't get implemented, and I felt I had to continue the important work that that suggestion began, at whatever cost and against whatever odds.

Let's address this important proposal at the next meeting.

i like this scheme, can i suggest also that every time one of these emails gets sent the sender should say to the recipient on a thread, poster x, i just webmailed you, so everyone can know someone has contacted someone.

Momus can provide pictures for the powerpoint.

blamus

shit sounds absurd b/c original idea was absurd, just sayin'

I'm with Tuomas, feeling bad for the gummi bear ...

tbh i wouldn't mind a more kafkaesque approach for the lolz

suggest bear

id like everyone who sb me to send me a note y then when i eventually (lol) get sb'd ill make a HAUL vid reading each of them aloud to the camera and put it up on youtube

<3 Lamp!

sb'd u 4 that

id like everyone who sb me to send me a note y then when i eventually (lol) get sb'd ill make a HAUL vid reading each of them aloud to the camera and put it up on youtube

now we're talkin and then everybody who posts in the comments section must also post their own individual sb #s and people must give them thumbs up or thumbs down

tbh ive trolled the youtube thumbs on more than one occasion

dude I strongly feel that the best comedy to be had in these times lies in the fertile compost of the youtube comments sections

also tbh have also thus trolled, it can't be helped

Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:30 AM Site candice spergin (cankles) has been banned permanently. 52 suggest bans

Permanently? I thought "Suggest Ban"-related bans were temporary.

(Just curious, anyway)

the admin log always adds "permanent" when someone is sb'd because in the system it is permanent (the unbans are manual intervention)

how long is he banned for?