Missin U <3 - lamentations for those felled by the SB

which would happen more with just mod bans?

(I know, they do this anyway, but it aint the same.)
How is it different, though? (Genuine Q) Nobody gets *near* an auto-ban with a mod knowing about it, and if there are other actions that could be taken to head it off, they are (like JJ's timeout of Ethan, or ppl getting banned from one thread). The automatic-ness of it is in practice little more than a safety -- I suppose it could catch some sheepfuxor going nuts while Jim's in the pub and the rest of us are sleeping.

progressively lowering tolerance, if mods are supposed to just ban outliers rather than people who are annoying to a large number of individuals. i dunno. xp

sarahel: i think there's the same tolerance for dickishness. There's definitely not a consistent rate of SBing, and the trigger level isn't getting any lower. ILX by and large lets a whole lot of stuff slide that other wetter forums would be all metatalkin' about, which is how it should be, and that doesn't seem to be changing.

what's the highest number of SB's one individual has given out, if it's easily available?

xp harbl - I agree.
xp stet - that's what jjusten's stats seem to imply

huh i thought i disagreed with you!? oh well! good enough.

No, I'm pretty much ok with SB over mod ban, as long as people are given proper warning and made aware of what triggered the SB's and that the number required is a reasonably large percentage of active ilxors, which sounds like more or less how it's being handled.

Also the "b" key on my laptop has been sticky today.

sb

alot of sb clearing up by jj has made it clear that the sb method is pretty good imo.

extra effort to not keep typing suggest an

SB arms race ITT

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what does ITT stand for?

"in this thread"

I thought it was this for a long time:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/images/reports/81337.jpg

I was confused why there were so many threads devoted to International Telephone & Telegraph, personally.

How is it different, though? (Genuine Q) Nobody gets *near* an auto-ban with a mod knowing about it, and if there are other actions that could be taken to head it off, they are (like JJ's timeout of Ethan, or ppl getting banned from one thread). The automatic-ness of it is in practice little more than a safety -- I suppose it could catch some sheepfuxor going nuts while Jim's in the pub and the rest of us are sleeping.

If its so secondary then why is it necessary? as much as we're told that auto-bans are vetted, it appears that these are judgments made after the system acts. a mod shouldn't be temp banning ethan in an effort to save him from an sb, the mod should decide the ban. the auto-ban is too under-developed to play a part in the admin role of the board. if its meant to work as a hive-mind representative, then it needs to be adapting to a host of different features that make up the hive.

It's not necessary, though --without it the whole SB system would work exactly the way it does now, except occasionally someone would sit past 50 longer than they otherwise would.

a mod shouldn't be temp banning ethan in an effort to save him from an sb, the mod should decide the ban.
i don't think he was taking action to "save" him, but rather do what you wanted -- take appropriate action.

In the other case, where someone hits 50 and just now the autoban kicks in but you'd prefer a mod took action, there's not really a lot of room for manoeuvre, by mod or ILX System. There's only a limited amount of tools in the mod arsenal. It really is just automation of what would happen anyway.

i think once someone hits 51 there should be a poll... mostly lol but kinda serious!

I can't help but think people opposed to the SB system are just opposed to board moderation in general, don't want anyone to tell anyone else to civilize their discourse, and would rather have one person to yell at than 51 people in the case of any one particular banning.

actually I strongly oppose the SB system but appreciate the effect it's had on my own posting and general awareness of others, if that makes any sense

stockholm syndrome

xp in other words, you're a masochist.

I would like to understand that Louis having obviously seen the effect.

you love the sb's, you dirty bastard. beg for one. beg.

uh, xpost?

51 Active Users

I think I mean, having seen the effect it's has on you in an obvious way. I think it's been really positive.

# 51 on the world heritage site list is a place called ban chiang.

give it its props, when 51 people express their disapproval of one's presence, and then 40+ of them restate this expression even after an absence, it is somewhat akin to having a rather knobbly baseball bat vigorously applied to one's temple every time one logs on. sooner or later, even the stargazing lunkheads among us had to notice

aw cheers K! and loooool d-mac. and lol crut, attention to detail makes the world go round. and lol d-mac again. if there were a suggest props system everybody's favourite Irish Spurs fan would be clocking tonight

it is somewhat akin to having a rather knobbly baseball bat vigorously applied to one's temple every time one logs on.

<3 and all man, but i had originally lobbied for this.

My favourite Irish Spurs fan is my neighbour Áine btw

lol

Louis, I think this stuff does you the world of good. You are still here and people want you to still be here.

(am i the only one not to have noticed any real change in messr jaggr? maybe it's cos i don't read ILM?)

Or this?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/18/article-1162554-03F75F34000005DC-698_468x328.jpg

Also Darraghmac, as far as I can see, you also get what I was meaning by this system... Sorry for not crediting you with that earlier.

cheeky fucker- he finally clicks that making every clusterfuck thread about him was drawing the SB action, so now he's trying to make it about me. sets a dangerous precedent imo.

Not a change in kind, but in degree.

I never change for you, D-mac. I'm always the same gambolling jackanapes you know and love. Whether I vote for you in the forthcoming D-mac vs Áine poll is a different matter.

xpost to keith- that i understand the system? or that i'm much more pleasant all of a sudden?

BAN DARRAGHMAC

Maybe it's both, I'm not sure. I was kind of vaguely aware that you might've changed your approach, but not consciously sure... I think I meant the former, that you understand what I was trying to achieve with the system.

Áine is totes awesome btw and I can make a really long list of great things about her (that are 100% true) that will guarantee her victory

keep up, IKR. the SB function has rendered those calls obselete

lol

I'll think about it harder when I'm less completely drunk.

fwiw D-mac became an A+ poster a few months back. the change was barely perceptible but i think it involved channeling his energies slightly away from antagonism and slightly more towards lolz.

i was gonna say, i'm not sure either is true in any case, keith.

i think SB is a neat enough function, though rather than cheerleading for it i'm just bemused by the fact that mods/yourself get stick when a ban occurs as a result of people using it.

I wouldn't presume to second guess where your head's at, darraghmac, but in my opinion, right now, I'd be where Louis's take is...