is banning posters for beefing with mods really what we want to do?

Stillwater?

JW was annoying as fuck. When he was doing his shit was the only time I ever went on an ilx hiatus. Not that anyone would miss me, but he did drive some people away.

― Jeff, Thursday, July 23, 2015 9:02 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he def was often awful and i wont defend that but i will say he had some good qualities too

oh wait that is his dn. nvm.

I'm sure he had a lovely singing voice.

just tried to open one of his threads and got a malware warning

lmao

i been on this bus since the beginning and the JW anarchy/reign of terror/load records appreciation station era was the most fun

ima put on a arab on radar lp and reminisce now

he did seem fun/interesting & made great board contributions but of every banning ever that i know of that 1 makes the most sense 2 me

Unban all posters. Storm the Bastille.

must admit like idea— in theory— of possibility— of a mods’ parole board reconsideration of present-day (older & wiser & chastened) life-banned

on the other hand, totally get this:

and his banning is a solid rock upon which we stand

coherence, functionality, legitimacy of institutions often based on precisely such a mythic paradigm (e.g. involving punishment/sacrifice of taboo-transgressive (anti)hero)

jw is loki

the banning of liberty valance xp

chaki walked right back in the front door

that wasn't what got him banned. Some of his CSS bombs are still there, waiting to explode! The problem was he was - repeatedly - taking advantage of security holes for hijinx, and defending it on the grounds that security holes just had to be exposed. We'd asked him a few times to be constructive and tell us about bugs he found rather than being all "Keith you suck have you even read the regex book here look at what I can do to mess with you now" and he never would because he was Loki or some shit.

The last straw was when he used the feature-not-a-bug of admins being able to post any html they want in yellow-cards to hassle a couple of posters, destroy the admin log and cause a general freak-out, the fallout from and cleanup of which took up a chunk of my holiday -- I was trying to fix that one from the airport bus, ffs -- and also cost a chunk of Keith's billable time.

Allowing someone here who just wants to fuck with stuff and repeatedly didn't care how much grief it caused people left me not seeing the funny side.

anybody who reads this and thinks anything other than "yeah, ok, fair enough" is a a very funny person. jw has totally matured and seems like a very solid dude, I dig him, and he totally earned his lifetime ban

lag∞n just wants to observe chaos. not enough to personally cause it or be responsible for cleaning it up, but to be close enough to cheer it on and call ppl affected by it humorless fuddy-duddies

it's generally nagl

some posters just want to watch the board burn

oh come on jw did more than chaos!

ITYM some posters just want to grab their willies and wave them in the air, spraying the rest of us with their teenagey piss.

matlock is on soon folks

c'mon goon you can do a better "omg olds" joke than that you're a clever guy

lol all the old ppl who watched matlock r prob dead now

making the joke itself... a signifier of age

lagunther, central prick

exactly. gotta know your demographics. the olds watch NCIS and big bang theory I think

for those old friends fans

now that we've banned deej and alienated max and jord forever, lagoon counts as an ilx teenager cause no one is left

baz∞nga.

in terms of borad tenure, attitude or actual age? xp

actual age he is now actually 16

cool dude [dubsteps into sunset]

that darn dubstep

if having jw back would make the board more fun and he wouldn't do terrorism on ilx again, what's the benefit of keeping him out? i see 2 possible explanations

1 ppl are still mad about it - understandable from their perspective (and "they" include mods so \o/) but their grudge shouldn't outweigh the benefit everyone else could enjoy

2 we need to be tough on board terrorism & strictly enforce permaban to set precedent and ensure it doesn't happen again - this would be a good reason if there was still a threat of this happening again. also he's been banned for like what, nine years?

if this had come up two weeks ago the same exact ppl would be like "chaki comes back... over my dead body" but now he's back and everyone's happy

maybe he wasn't even being malicious. maybe he was jw.

on the grounds that security holes just had to be exposed.

this 'tude is the worst, though

yeah he cldve just sent an email

kinda think "ppl are still mad about it" minimizes the fact that his actions actively fucked up the site admin's real lives.

i also don't think anyone two weeks ago would have flipped out about the prospect of chaki coming back.

sometimes, having extremely immature judgment produces results indistinguishable from malice. for example, three year olds are often known to bite their playmates until they learn that this is completely unacceptable behavior.

the question is, when a putative adult displays extremely immature judgment that is indistinguishable from malice, how do you teach them that this is wholly unacceptable behavior, apart from treating them much as you would a three year old who bites, and if they reached adulthood not knowing how to act, what are the odds they'll learn.

xp cad- eh i'm sure joan crawford would've taken his sanctimonious hardline on it

pretty sure jw has moved on with his life and is doing fine without ilx; tbh it's a little pathetic that many of you are still carrying a torch for him after seven years or whatever it is

kinda think "ppl are still mad about it" minimizes the fact that his actions actively fucked up the site admin's real lives.
--call all destroyer

i mean, use whatever language is sufficient to express how they feel, the point still stands: if unbanning leaves probability of it ever happening again unchanged, who loses?

last time i saw him he told me he thought he shd be unbanned, that was a couple years ago tho xp

who loses?

and where could we find an instrument sensitive enough to measure the size of the loss?

gawker controversy -> jw unbanned would be an interesting narrative

life is a journey

he posts funny things on facebook

was the uppers thread his doing? if so, we will always have the uppers thread to remember him by

ethan had the right idea. He peaced out and didnt come back and seems not to care less. I envy the man.

fezaffe started uppers

did he get permabanned too?

no idea