how the hell is that 'mansplaining'? yeah this is about the most ridiculous clusterfuck ever
― Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Thursday, 18 October 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)
the main thing i get from the convo just posted is that Mordy is actually trying to engage with the question on his own terms after making the logical leap most people would make to suicide. That that, somehow, is disallowed by the threadstarter which is frankly ridiculous. discussing the fantasy of not existing without discussing suicide is basically not possible. and i say that as someone who thinks about it a fair bit.
― jed_, Thursday, 18 October 2012 23:52 (thirteen years ago)
well i'm a bit drunk.
― jed_, Thursday, 18 October 2012 23:53 (thirteen years ago)
Q: Why Can't the original question be clarified further down, e.g. "This is not about xxxx"?
Because if the discussion goes off, naturally, in that direction, does the OP have to then start a new thread? Or explain why not?
xpost Not Possible? Anything's possible!
― Mark G, Thursday, 18 October 2012 23:54 (thirteen years ago)
i'm not a mansplaining expert but i always thought it was a more specific, patronizing attitude kind of thing where some dude basically commits the appeal to authority fallacy, but it appears that he's drawing his so-called "authority" from the fact that he's a man. i've definitely seen men do this to women many times before, so i actually kind of like the term because when people use it correctly it describes complex in a succinct way. i didn't think, though, that mansplaining referred to situations where someone is a man and talks
― down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Thursday, 18 October 2012 23:54 (thirteen years ago)
The crux of this whole mess revolves around the mental jiujitsu of turning a disagreement into a personal attack.
― Burgled Hams (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 October 2012 23:56 (thirteen years ago)
splain man talkin'
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 18 October 2012 23:56 (thirteen years ago)
i think she should just get her own board where she starts the topics and deletes replies that do not answer the original question or replies that are triggering, and should see how many people want to be on the board and how many posts are left
― horribl ecreature (harbl), Thursday, 18 October 2012 23:56 (thirteen years ago)
The mansplaining and misogynist accusations are completely offensive in this case and WCC can fuck right off with that
― quincie, Thursday, 18 October 2012 23:57 (thirteen years ago)
harbl with the real talk, btw.
it's not even so much that one must follow the dictates of the threadstarter but that one is virtually assaulting the threadstarter if one disagrees
harbl otm
― mookieproof, Thursday, 18 October 2012 23:58 (thirteen years ago)
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Friday, 19 October 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)
stop adding to the pile-on, System
― Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Friday, 19 October 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)
lol
― down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Friday, 19 October 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)
system is always mansplaining
― horribl ecreature (harbl), Friday, 19 October 2012 00:04 (thirteen years ago)
system possibly also an anti-semite
― quincie, Friday, 19 October 2012 00:05 (thirteen years ago)
systems are doing it for themselves
― *triumphant sauce horns* (crüt), Friday, 19 October 2012 00:06 (thirteen years ago)
sorority is on the twitter
― the oft-posited third fisherman (darraghmac), Friday, 19 October 2012 00:08 (thirteen years ago)
crut :D
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Friday, 19 October 2012 00:10 (thirteen years ago)
keep reading this thread title as "should ilxors be trepanned" for etc
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 19 October 2012 00:22 (thirteen years ago)
yes
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 October 2012 00:22 (thirteen years ago)
suggest 'pan
― wk, Friday, 19 October 2012 00:24 (thirteen years ago)
let your brains breathe
― bansplain (electricsound), Friday, 19 October 2012 00:24 (thirteen years ago)
― horribl ecreature (harbl), Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:56 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark
had this exact thought on The Day Of October Twelfth, Two Thousand And Twelve btw
― 乒乓, Friday, 19 October 2012 00:25 (thirteen years ago)
that board existed, though it became iltmi or something?
― bansplain (electricsound), Friday, 19 October 2012 00:29 (thirteen years ago)
i'm sorry i stole your thought dayo. i wasn't even thinking an ilx board just a board in general.
― horribl ecreature (harbl), Friday, 19 October 2012 00:30 (thirteen years ago)
Did some ILXors get banned for saying offboard that Lou1s Kagen had a subreddit or something?
― pplains, Friday, 19 October 2012 01:09 (thirteen years ago)
― horribl ecreature (harbl), Thursday, October 18, 2012 8:30 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark
you mean, like, some kind of kitchen?
― 乒乓, Friday, 19 October 2012 01:13 (thirteen years ago)
holy fucking god, much more of this and i'm upgrading to once a month
ilx is an amazing repository of knowledge, conjecture and criticism but why must you do this to yourselves
please, please, find some peace. for me. i still luvs ya. sort of.
― once a week is ample, Friday, 19 October 2012 01:24 (thirteen years ago)
do u like the new ultrasound album o.a.w.i.a.?
― bansplain (electricsound), Friday, 19 October 2012 01:25 (thirteen years ago)
miss u boo
― mookieproof, Friday, 19 October 2012 01:26 (thirteen years ago)
^^
― 乒乓, Friday, 19 October 2012 01:27 (thirteen years ago)
mine own kitchen
― horribl ecreature (harbl), Friday, 19 October 2012 01:29 (thirteen years ago)
your mother googling your name and finding your disgusting sex stories reposted on another website under your real name.
ban Matt DC for slut-shaming imo
my secret government name is l4nc3 st4rgr0v3 btw
man u took that Gene S1mmons thing down hardcore
Mordy started overtalking me, quoting "death of the author" (what? is that a threat?)
irl cracked up giggling at this, glad so many others enjoyed it too
hugs to jed_
This already happened!
― set the controls for the arse of your mum (sic), Friday, 19 October 2012 01:32 (thirteen years ago)
xxxp yeah, not as great as EP (couldn't really be given its humbler ambitions) but the four long songs and 'nonsense' are kickass. that said the best 2 songs are probably still the 2 that were released as a single. that plank! band you mentioned sounded pretty cool too - anything else you reckon i'll dig, well, you know the batsignalj
btw the new thumpermonkey album is absolutely incredible and if you like rock, prog, metal, intricate melodies, math rock, mayhem etc then here's 50 minutes' worth you won't regret: http://soundcloud.com/thumpermonkey/sets/sleep-furiously/
maybe i'll even start a thread on them next week, they're that good
anyway there's no other avant-idiocy to task yall up on so have a good one and play nicer
aw dayo n mookie you dont hafta *sniff*
okok you want more well i'm reading gravity's rainbow for realsies and to be frank no other literature matters right now. it's a stage we all go thru eh...less than 1/2way and it feels like 4 novels already!
― once a week is ample, Friday, 19 October 2012 01:33 (thirteen years ago)
― down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:54 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
woah who's being slandered now
― some dude, Friday, 19 October 2012 03:05 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2AYfF-bu9M
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Friday, 19 October 2012 03:05 (thirteen years ago)
Complex (artist), an American Rap artist? (xp)
― boxall, Friday, 19 October 2012 03:59 (thirteen years ago)
i meant "a complex idea" but forgot 2/3 of the words.
and some dude you knew what you were getting into when you chose that display name, OWN IT
― down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Friday, 19 October 2012 04:06 (thirteen years ago)
Dhalsim is a pretty cool character imo, takes a lot of skill to play him at competition level tho
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 19 October 2012 04:13 (thirteen years ago)
no i mean it honestly delights me that people that have seen my posts under this dn for 4+ years straight STILL can't help but use that phrase in posts all the time not in a purposeful joking way. it's become a social experiment for me. w/ the feigned outrage being all part of the fun.
― some dude, Friday, 19 October 2012 04:13 (thirteen years ago)
this may shock you - but sometimes i refer to a generic "some dude" in real life!
― down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Friday, 19 October 2012 04:16 (thirteen years ago)
i think of myself as "some lady" all the time and iirc for a while i delighted in signing off every post with "some lady"i get it!
― these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Friday, 19 October 2012 04:19 (thirteen years ago)
- leif
― down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Friday, 19 October 2012 04:21 (thirteen years ago)
Mordy, ENBB and American female posters more broadly, DJP, contenderizer, who else has this almost never happened to?― boxall, Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:46 PM (8 hours ago)
― boxall, Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:46 PM (8 hours ago)
― boxall, Friday, 19 October 2012 04:22 (thirteen years ago)
thanks god you motherfuckers finally hung this one up
― the late great, Friday, 19 October 2012 06:20 (thirteen years ago)
or did they
dun
DUNNNN
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 October 2012 06:33 (thirteen years ago)
Fwiw I wanted to post about this in the push button thread but by that time the thread had moved on but: the whole idea that 'self-nullification has nothing to do w suicide" xoncept has been getting a lot of los and cockeyed stares butiirc when WCC had started protesting about suicide, she had been p much the sole person who'd said she would push the button and virtually everyone else in that thread wad emphatically posting "hell no I would not take the get-out-of-life-free option" so I'm not convinced that a bunch of people who took great pains to distance themselves from a mindset that wd imagine such a button, and press it, are necessarily qualified to decide what a mindset like that is 'about'. I think there are a lot of reasons to start a thread like that, and if WCC was trying to proactively ward off any number of reductive speculations about the orig question being some sort of sublimated death wish or what have you, then I probably wouldn't blame her.
Of course, I def don't agree with how she's handled it since nor do I necc understand what she means about the suicide talk being some kind of triggering agent
― skeevy wonder (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 19 October 2012 06:36 (thirteen years ago)
xp Oh wait were we done? Dammit all to hell!
― skeevy wonder (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 19 October 2012 06:37 (thirteen years ago)
your timing was AWESOME, lol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 October 2012 06:39 (thirteen years ago)