a specific complaint

maybe we should just hug it out.

hey guys we can talk about this, but i am 100% not comfortable with discussing someones specific mental health situation when they are unable to post, so please try to steer towards the general. Kate has every right to freely talk about her own feelings, but that is her choice, and its unfair for other people to step in and interpret them imo.

bunch o xposts

xpost :)

She DID put them on the internet, jj. I'm not saying I want to be all up in her mental health either, but she published.

hey guys we can talk about this, but i am 100% not comfortable with discussing someones specific mental health situation

when they are unable to post

FUCK, i meant that as a strikethrough

hey guys we can talk about this, but i am 100% not comfortable with discussing someones specific mental health situation when they are unable to post somewhere besides 77 borad

Sorry, Jjjusten, should've read your post better. Still, I think you're making bit of an assumption here:

also, the post that catches the SB often seems to be just the first instance of the users name that shows up - i see who sbs what posts and when - in other words call it a slow burn reaction, but a lot of the SBS will be in a concentrated period of time and probably more of a "oh hey that person was a real jerk on that thread i was reading and im still pissed about it" thing.

How do you know this how the people who click SB think? Maybe they just don't like the person in general, not necessarily for him being a jerk to them, so they click SB on a random message?

(xxx-post)

I only brought it up in the context of the blog post where she talks about it in relation to the sb. Obviously, she's discussed her mental health issues elsewhere on ilx, but since she's not able to respond, it probably isn't a good idea to discuss that without her input.

Kate's s-banning bothers me a lot, as did Tuomas' and Morbius' and gabbneb's...actually, I don't think any of the sbs have been for the best---for me, at least, and I get that others disagree. I dunno, maybe the old clusterfucky "ban XXX" threads were better, because at least they were public. Whatever nasty things were said on those threads, when you're sb'd you're still publicly shamed. I can see why the mods want to avoid having to decide who's a good poster and who's not, and that sb's are supposed to be a way of letting "the people" decide those things. But I think, for a place where your public identity, what you post, is all there is, it would be best to talk these things out, rather than have it be private and easy.

It is sort of Sarah Palin to be all "LOOK AT ME AND MY BAYBEEEE AND MY BEAUTIFUL PREGNANT CHILDREN/HOW DARE YOU REFER TO MY BABY/PREGNANT CHILDREN IN PRINT?"

I don't know whether Kate would have a problem, jjusten's saying that he has a problem with it.

i'd imagine she'll be thrilled that anyone cared enough to discuss it

Well exactly.

except for the woman-hating facists who want her silenced, i mean

I have an idea to actually lower the number of posts required for an sbann. That way, the behavior is more directly correlated with the time out. As i recall, 51 was the number arrived at when an SB meant banishment from the site forever. Now that it is more of a 30 day timeout to reassess your posting style, maybe it should be a smaller # sp shit you did in the past doesn't catch.up with you as easily. I dunno. Just an idea.

I take jjusten's comment as a warning that if we veer into that territory, this thread will be locked and end this discussion.

it's only a matter of time

should keep it open until momus can weigh in

I'm just starting to feel self-conscious about how many threads I end up being the last poster to that get locked, and having been banned before for being "too meta" I'm trying to be conscientious about not doing that again.

kiu

when an SB meant banishment from the site forever. Now that it is more of a 30 day timeout to reassess your posting style
It does still mean this fwiw, it just people need to have a chance or two before it's permanent. If people keep getting SBd and come back with more of the same, it's going to get permanent for them.

i personally invite this "thread lock" because we're going to accomplish fuck all talking about this.

Kate, I hope you're reading this before they lock it. Four important points from someone who was SB'd too.

• 30 days is not a long time.
• It's not really a big deal.
• Most people just click SB because its funny not because they hate you.
• See u in 29.

I mean, shit, J0rdan's probably gonna get SB'd soon, and everyone love J0rdan!

If people keep getting SBd and come back with more of the same, it's going to get permanent for them.

or until Louis comes back with a new screen name, which I always have trouble getting adjusted to

it's like an unexpected christmas when i come home in the afternoon, open the comp, and get to feast on a 150+ post suggest ban analyze buffet

Most people just click SB because its funny not because they hate you.

yeah riiiight

yall i'm goin down so soon - i'm gonna miss ilx over xmas - my favorite time of ilx - but such is life

xp - sb'd u for that

:-)

dont go gently into that good night etc

can't believe jordan is gone

if we all sb jordan today then he can rise again on christmas day, just like our lord & saviour senor jesus christ

do it do it

J3sus C.

rip

i took a month off recently and it was fine btw

also proxy + sock ?

that's assuming that a mod would have nothing else better to do than unban people on Christmas.

http://www.brycewalters.com/mobi/photos/Bryce-Tiny-Tim.jpg

that r his unbanning could be a "christmas miracle"

jokes tho, plz don't sb j0rdan

ehnh - I'm just still slightly bummed that LJ didn't get to return on my birthday.

J51dan

that doesn't work

sb'd u for that

Giving a reason for the banning is harder to do. It's not always obvious why people have clicked SB, and there'd be a lot of judgement call involved. It also seems like in the majority of cases people know what's done it, or must have an inkling. Posters don't keep their problems with people quiet here, exactly.

― stet, Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:20 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark

So we can rest assured all 51 sb's against kate were carefully vetted and aligned with posts the mods confirmed were objectionable and disruptive to the board. Sounds like a lot trouble vs having mods you know moderate.

MERRY SBs TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD BAN

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