Missin U <3 - lamentations for those felled by the SB

make the LJ sb list public

JJJusten, I hear what you're saying, but let's not forget the famous verse "And then JC said 'Let your SBs disappear like dew at 10am - the time for retribution has long passed. Let us forgive. Your SBs should be as cotton, once thorny and the cause of bloody hands, and now a fundamental element of soft, comfortable t-shirts."

- JC 23:12

IT'S IN THE BIBLE PEOPLE

yeah, i'm not criticizing the sb system, just saying dudes should come back after a reasonable amount of time because they contribute a lot

But yeah, I hear what you're saying. I don't envy anyone who has to make mod decisions on the SB issue, it's not an easy position to be in.

still john, you (the mods) should be able to veto a dumb SB.

1) how old are some of the sb's

2) this is not really like a lot of those ppl because the point of sb is to indicate to posters that their behavior needs to change--as we all know lj is a totally different poster these days (having learned his lesson from 2 priors) and i haven't seen him be offensive or be a dick at all in recent memory (i mean maybe he has on threads i haven't opened). so he modified his behavior and this happened again anyway, and that has to be a result of "who he is" not "what he has posted"

come on guys, just think of all the great display names you can come up with. every cloud has its silver lining.

i feel comfortable saying that this is not going to become a permaban for lj (and def not for NRQ since its the first time its happened), but no matter what i think about either situation, it'll be a month for NRQ and at least a month for lj.

uh bunches of xposts

btw akaik there are lots of regular posters in the 40s right now who have NO habitual, repeated pattern of being offensive or dickish--we are going to get to have this conversation again pretty soon

good point xxp

call all destroyer, i think the problem is that what you are saying is a matter of personal opinion, not fact.

or not being there when someone pulls a dick move, or whatever. looking at the people in the 40s and the sbs they have gotten, theres stuff in there for every one of them that is pretty easy to read as dickish/offensive tbh

and speaking from personal opinion, there are posters with minimal sbs that i think are totally obnoxious assholes. this is kind of exactly why my (or your) personal taste doesnt have a whole lot to do with how the sb deal works.

i mean yeah you're right but the longer the system is in place without old sb's getting erased it will be less and less obvious why regular posters are getting kicked off the site

I think we should be able to SB sitewide admins. Just to spice it up a tad, you know?

old sbs do get erased at 6 months

also, you can SB sitewide admins! it just doesnt lead to an autoban. let your freak flag fly tho!

ok--i did not know that. thank you jjj.

<3 almost cut my hair xpost

the 6 month thing was added because of some of the worries about long term accrual for posters that just had a jerk frenzy once in a blue moon. to put everything out on the table, the current leniency (ie not necessarily lengthening ljs timeout after round three) has a lot to do with some concerns that the time stamping on old bans might be inaccurate.

i meant they probably are, but until we hit the first six month point we cant be absolutely sure. NOTE: i am way too stupid to code anything, so i am just passing on my limited understanding of the programming side here, so smarter people may show up to correct me.

make the LJ sb list public

― it takes a nation of 51 to hold us back (J0rdan S.), Friday, October 9, 2009 12:05 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

alternatively whiney i could make the list of people you SB'd public

well alright

would make a good poll

it would probably be quicker if just listed the four or five ppl i HAVENT gotten around to SBing yet

shit you ain't kidding

I used to post under another name, but I got permabarred.

I made do at the 77 World of Text for a while, but it disappeared. I'll miss reading about and from LOJa, but i miss all sorts of things.

everything isn't like it used to be anymore these days and I don't know why I continue keeping on trying to find something that makes me feel like it used to be like it was before all these things started changing.

Hey, just to make a ILM post before I go, I was about to listen to that song "Here's Where the Story Ends." Not bad.

:o

i'm pretty sure i have sb'd lj for some stupid shit or something. Then i saw that warning that pops up and was like lol this guy will always be on ilx.

I am bemused that the ppl who hit the SB button the most are the ones who cry like babbies when the function, you know, like, does what it's supposed ter.

sb'd zachary taylor

xpost, i hope you don't mean me

i mean, i like louis a lot and am sad he's gone, but I don't think this is some GRAVE MISUSE OF POWER

i think i can survive the two weeks until he's back again

electricsound, it WOULD be kind of interesting if you made a list of ppl with the happiest SB trigger fingers

in all seriousness though, louis is a valuable poster and an awesome dude, and i'm pretty sure we haven't seen the last of him.

louis is a valuable poster and an awesome dude, and i'm pretty sure we haven't seen the last of him.

oh man...whiney got a copy of the ilx season 9 script!!

I thought dreams was on goldenrod.

haaaaaa

http://lc.fdots.com/cc/lc/ab/ab98cdc20d749c793c4d3ca7e34cb41b.jpg

i mean, i like louis a lot and am sad he's gone, but I don't think this is some GRAVE MISUSE OF POWER

OK cool, its just that anyone who actively SBs people, esp becuase they just find them annoying, to then say "hey come on, why was X banned?!" is a bit weird when, imo there seems to be a large crossover btwn SBers and antiSB process dudes (maybe i am wrong on this count I cant see mod shiz)

^ a good point. I sb'd kshighway1 earlier on 8(

I'm turning over a new leaf

heh. But yeah soz whiney was not nesc implying you are one of those ppl.

I have got to stop typing in such irritating shorthand.

I'm turning over a new leaf

― wilter, Friday, October 9, 2009 12:51 AM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark

a new Leif?

dudes i get what you are saying, but there have been people that wanted cankles back right away, or NRQ, or tuomas, or morbs. this isnt any different than those cases, other than the fact that lj (and yeah, i dont necc understand why) has gotten more sbs than any other person on the board at this point. my personal opinions dont outweigh the 52 people that sbed him this time, and neither does anyone elses.

you're talking about the sb system like it's a force of nature rather rather than something someone coded up and turned on, with parameters that can be altered by mods -- and an off switch.

pretty sure i have SBed lj at some point

Seriously, how many times must this happen before the whole SB thing is switched off? Yeah, I know, it's people's own damn fault for clicking the SB button... But if LJ's banned again, it's pretty obvious people simply can't be trusted to use this function the way it's supposed to be used. The SB system has been in work for a year, and almost every single time there's been an uproar when someone gets SBed, so it's kinda hard to see it as a resounding success. Is it really that hard to admit it's been a failed experiment, and just turn it off?

delete ilx