Why do they make Madden worse every year?

i'm broek, no madden for me.
selling guitars and amps to make rent this month.
wish i got hit by a cta bus, i'd settle out of court for pennies on the dollar.

watcha selling? i've got to unload a couple geetars myself. bah.

62 jaguar reissue
old danelectro of indeterminate vintage
miscellaneous fender amps in varying degrees of disrepair

that jag should keep you in rent for a couple months but I could never part with it. good luck

You're not sellling a Blues Jr by any chance?

no. a couple practice amps is all i have left, a frontman 15, a champ, and a solid state princeton 65.

that jag should keep you in rent for a couple months but I could never part with it. good luck

i actually gave it away a few months back. my friend had been playing an epiphone dot and was looking for something a little cleaner to cut through the somewhat muddy sound of their band (they use a farfisa instead of bass on 80% of the songs) so i let her have it. then she traded in an old sg she had for a thinline tele and gave me my jag back. i'll probably keep the dano because i won't get as much for it as the jag and if i didn't have a guitar in the house i'd probably go insane.

just curious: what would you want for the jag?

(and i love my thinline tele!)

Every single little thing in Madden 08 dynasty mode now requires a submenu and a confirmation. Fuck you, EA Sports.

That shit drives me bonkers.

holy fuck, the buy it now prices for jags like mine on eBay is more than double what i paid for it 10 years ago. FUCK ME.

i really don't want to do this.

Why do they make Madden worse every year?

to keep you buying. seriously. their whole modus operandi is the emphasizing of shitty new features instead of addressing the core gameplay issues that have plagued it for years. they basically are just rearranging the deck chairs until time immemorial, fixing something from the previous year's version while reintroducing problems from two and three years ago.

that said, i am gonna go to MAH BWOYZ' pad this weekend to play it nonstop on his ps3

anyone tried all-pro 2k8? it sort of addresses the problem with madden where they would have all kinds of historical teams, but couldnt actually license the players from those teams. but now you just have the players and not the teams. hopefully it plays good!

FFFFUUUUUUUCK I WANT THIS!!!!

i'm turning into a bratty 6 year old here.
i need a nap.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/2007/08/12/ramblings/reviews/5332/

okay this sounds awesome.

It is on the field where the special abilities system shines. Thurman Thomas and Earl Campbell are both gold-tier backs, but they play completely differently. Campbell is an absolute bull; when he puts his head down and smashes into defenders, the defenders go backwards, and in the open field, he brushes off defensive backs with ease. Thomas runs precise pass routes, has soft hands and can juke on a dime. He is most effective on counters, traps and draws, just as he should be.

It’s not just at the running back position where the abilities make themselves felt; it’s at every single position on the field. A bump-and-run corner like Lester Hayes dominates lesser receivers at the line of scrimmage, holding them up, knocking them down and running them off their routes. A speed rusher like Chris Doleman will abuse a generic left tackle, beating him to the outside off the snap, spinning inside to split the gap. In one game I played, Doleman racked up three sacks in a half, but he also gave up big yardage on delayed runs to his side, as he was rushing the quarterback with his ears pinned back and paying no attention to the run. It was as realistic a depiction of a player as I’ve ever seen.

Perhaps most impressively, the quarterbacks play differently. Traditionally it’s been very hard to parse quarterbacks (quarterbacks not named Michael Vick, that is), but here, the differences are immediately noticeable. Steve Young and Randall Cunningham are able to throw accurately on the move, while Troy Aikman and Archie Manning are terrible if forced out of the pocket. The ball flies of out Marino’s hand in a way that it just doesn’t out of Joe Montana’s. Elway is not nearly as effective as Unitas in the short passing game, but his deep ball covers 50 yards with a speed and force that Unitas can’t match. If you go into practice mode and have Joe Montana throw the same intermediate pattern to Jerry Rice, he’ll put the ball on the money over and over again, allowing Rice to keep running in stride. Run the same drill with Elway throwing to Rice and the ball will move around enough to force Rice to adjust to it. It’s the kind of immersive detail that can go a long way towards making you forget that you wanted things like a franchise mode or an opportunity to play with Tarvaris Jackson.

It’s impossible to play the game and not be impressed with the things it gets right about football. The passing physics are spot on — balls can be thrown at different speeds and trajectories, so it’s possible to drop a ball over the linebackers and in front of the safeties, to throw to the outside shoulder on a fade route, or to rifle a quick slant into traffic. No game has ever modeled the pass pocket better. Defensive ends rush upfield and offensive tackles mirror them, forming a pocket that quarterbacks can and do step up into. Playing as a defensive lineman isn’t simply an exercise in frustration, as the various swims, spins and rips all work, and you can set a tackle up over the course of a series by rushing in one way and then switching up your technique. The interactions between receivers and corners at the line are sublime. In the course of an offensive series, you can watch a corner jam up the receiver at the line on first down, redirect him on second and then miss the bump and get completely out of position on third. On running plays, guards pull and get out to the second level, and a patient runner who sets up his blocks will fare far better than one who takes the handoff and immediately speed bursts to the outside. In a great many areas, this is simply the most authentic football experience you can buy.

btw guys i had a dream about bill curry last night!!!!!!

The passing physics are spot on — balls can be thrown at different speeds and trajectories, so it’s possible to drop a ball over the linebackers and in front of the safeties, to throw to the outside shoulder on a fade route, or to rifle a quick slant into traffic.

this is so crucial. the most frustrating thing abt madden is that you cant throw to a spot, you're always throwing directly to receivers.

ok, i'm going to the pawn shop tomorrow.

i want my '86 pats.

I hate the NFL. Jesus, just let us play with the old teams for fucks sake. You get 250 ole tyme players but then you have fill out your roster with "generic" players. I guess I don't care about the team names- you can probably edit those but I want thee ole oufits and Gene Hickerson pulling guard for Leroy Kelly. Also, I want this for the original xbox.

This outrage needs to be taken to the highest court in the land.

I don't even care if it's the actual player names, can't they at least give them NAMES.

what pisses me off abt the historical teams on madden is that the guys dont even have the corresponding jersey numbers! at least give us that much man :'(

Oh well, I bought it (and a 360) anyway.

I still think John Madden Football for the 3DO is the best version of Madden ever, with Madden NFL 94 for the Sega Genesis a close second. What say you?

whoa i didnt even know there was one for the 3DO. kudos mr. snrub~~~

I bought the wii version, which I guess is technically the gayest version.
But it's hella fun thus far!

forks, how do you use those ninja controllers for Madden? Do you drop back in your living room?

It's actually really ingenious and mucho rad.
you pick out your receiver by pressing the direction on the d pad on the wii controller and then "throwing" the ball that direction.
You catch by throwing up both hands at the same time.
Sharp push to the right with right hand makes back stiff arm.
V.V.Kool.

that would be a vast improvement on the 360 version.

Favorite Madden is probably one of the 2002-2005ish XBox Maddens - some years the dynasty mode was better than others (there were a couple of years where new players/drafts were completely screwed - players coming with injury ratings in the single digits and HBs with speed in the 60s, etc).

thanks forks, sounds like a hoot.

I had a blast with Super Nintendo Madden (93 or 94 or something). There was an actual running game.

oh man, madden 93 on SNES was my first ever, and one of my first games period. that was the shit~

So far I am really enjoying the new one. Certainly taking some getting used to, but it's nice that they changed stuff up compared to Madden 06 PS2.

it's really maddening!

Which Madden was it where you could tackle and injure the players even after the play was dead? That was great.

94 or 95 i think. the little ambulance came out. it was sweet.

MADDEN. iPHONE. DISCUSS.

He's back!

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/videogames/photo/2009/0810/madden10_vick0_800x450.jpg

removing him from my roster right now.

Change his name to Murderer, Dog.

Bought this for the first time since 2008 probably. 20 minute opening cutscene/gameplay intro where I get to help a probable rapist win a Super Bowl (Roethlisberger) and obscenely complicated pass mechanics.

EA getting exclusive license for NFL players was really one of the worst things to ever happen to video games.