America's favorite Dystopian pastime - NFL 2021-22

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Get your bets in, tighten up that fantasy team and get your favorite beverages to numb your mind - the NFL is here to make you feel fine.

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earlnash, Thursday, 9 September 2021 12:25 (nine months ago) link

Giving the devil his due, cannot hate Tampa death metal Tom at this point - I just wants of LOLs of them beating the Boys in the most hilarious way tonight. Modern football is largely about the schadenfreude at this point.

earlnash, Thursday, 9 September 2021 12:28 (nine months ago) link

Sportsball feels frivolous in antebellum usa is how i break it down to an extent

Hunt3r, Thursday, 9 September 2021 16:00 (nine months ago) link

ty earlnash for the new thread

I agree that following the NFL is frivolous, but no more so than following the MCU, streaming TV series, pop music, the poetry scene, or almost anything else featured on SNA right now

I'd enjoy seeing ILX's foobaw board maintain a little parity with the much-more-active MLB and hoops boards (not to mention the alarums and excursions on boards related to strange foreign sports)

so NFL schadenfreude yes please

don't get me started on the college game right now; I'm really not looking forward to 93,000 people from all over Georgia packing into Sanford Stadium this weekend with no mask or vaccine requirements

Brad C., Thursday, 9 September 2021 16:42 (nine months ago) link

Fp'd for use of "sportsball"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 September 2021 16:54 (nine months ago) link

due to a series of clerical errors, i am watching some football this season for the first time in a decade+

ciderpress, Friday, 10 September 2021 00:30 (nine months ago) link

jfc at the ravens bodies piling up

brimstead, Friday, 10 September 2021 01:17 (nine months ago) link

I guess it was a good game. I did as I often do and love about football, there was a kickoff and I zonked in the chair asleep and did not wake up until nearly 4 am.

Think it was much more fun to hate on the 'Boys when Romopaws was the QB, as I kinda like Dak and forever glad that his contract has finally been signed so ESPN radio can shut up about it (even though they STILL talk about it now in light of the injury).

That said, I think most ILNFL would agree that Romodamus is pretty fun in the announcing booth.

I think Drew Brees dyed his hair. That looked like a serious Grecian Formula job in the pregame.

earlnash, Friday, 10 September 2021 07:56 (nine months ago) link

Giving the devil his due, cannot hate Tampa death metal Tom at this point - I just wants of LOLs of them beating the Boys in the most hilarious way tonight. Modern football is largely about the schadenfreude at this point.

― earlnash, Thursday, September 9, 2021 7:28 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

lol

frogbs, Friday, 10 September 2021 08:09 (nine months ago) link

suit-and-tie Brees looked so miserable during the opening while they were hyping the ageless unretired GOAT

Brad C., Friday, 10 September 2021 13:01 (nine months ago) link

could not stop thinking about George Costanza with the hairpiece

frogbs, Friday, 10 September 2021 13:38 (nine months ago) link

its amazing with all the turnover in this league how some things always stay the same: Tom Brady always gets gifted a game-changing call (or no-call in this case) in crunch time, the Dallas Cowboys always find new ways to lose in the most excruciating way possible

frogbs, Friday, 10 September 2021 13:49 (nine months ago) link

"I WAS BALD." Ha! I don't think I caught that but come on...this is on his NFL bio.

https://static.www.nfl.com/image/private/t_headshot_desktop/league/bt6nv11jgsirnuymookt

earlnash, Friday, 10 September 2021 15:12 (nine months ago) link

Big trucks, fast food, diet beer, 9/11. NFL is back!

Looking forward to catching a little of the Browns game. Not so much to watching my Bears get dismantled by Stafford on prime time week 1. It is going to be some Clockwork Orange can’t-look-away shit.

beard papa, Sunday, 12 September 2021 17:34 (nine months ago) link

60 yards in the air

Russell Wilson NUKE to Lockett 🤯

Seahawks (-2.5) get a big score before the halfpic.twitter.com/gZxPD9x2HQ

— ClutchPoints Betting (@CPBetting) September 12, 2021

lag∞n, Sunday, 12 September 2021 18:30 (nine months ago) link

Tua TD!

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Sunday, 12 September 2021 20:47 (nine months ago) link

cleve brownies looking pretty good

mookieproof, Sunday, 12 September 2021 22:01 (nine months ago) link

yikes packers

mookieproof, Sunday, 12 September 2021 22:39 (nine months ago) link

pats deserve to lose this for that cowardly field goal

ciderpress, Sunday, 12 September 2021 22:56 (nine months ago) link

cool int tho

lag∞n, Sunday, 12 September 2021 22:59 (nine months ago) link

yeah looks like they're gonna make it work but its still wrong

ciderpress, Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:01 (nine months ago) link

ball batted back and forth between teams in a one point 4th quarter game thats a high leverage play baby

lag∞n, Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:01 (nine months ago) link

thats why we call it volleyball

ciderpress, Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:02 (nine months ago) link

was wondering about that

lag∞n, Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:03 (nine months ago) link

this rookie here looking pretty good for the patriots

lag∞n, Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:04 (nine months ago) link

justice served

ciderpress, Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:26 (nine months ago) link

Fins woooooo. Defense got picked apart tho

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:30 (nine months ago) link

guess i jinxed the browns

my bad

mookieproof, Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:30 (nine months ago) link

Baker really fucked up on that last throw

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:31 (nine months ago) link

Classic Vikings loss today but overshadowed by the Pack looking like they have not played football

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 September 2021 00:03 (nine months ago) link

That was pretty shocking

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 September 2021 00:12 (nine months ago) link

Everyone on the Saints looked stronger and faster than everyone on the Packers, it was wild

frogbs, Monday, 13 September 2021 00:15 (nine months ago) link

Matt Nagy just went for it on 4th-and-15 down 13 while in FG range with 11 minutes on the clock

probably the right call but that's definitely something you would never have seen half a decade ago. I would've called something that actually got the ball past the line though

frogbs, Monday, 13 September 2021 02:42 (nine months ago) link

I don't see why the Bears are starting with Dalton. I think this is pretty much all you're gonna get with him. They liked Fields enough to trade up for him and this defense doesn't look like it's gonna stop anybody right now

frogbs, Monday, 13 September 2021 03:11 (nine months ago) link

I think it's good to keep going like they are. I'm in no hurry to see the kid carted off the field.

beard papa, Monday, 13 September 2021 05:20 (nine months ago) link

holy fuck Raiders

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 03:42 (nine months ago) link

WHAT THE HELL

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 03:47 (nine months ago) link

for those of you not watching the Raiders just threw what looked like a game winning TD in overtime - players were already shaking hands at midfield - but it turned out to be like 18 inches short. they run it to the 3 inch line or whatever on 1st down, then commit a false start (LOL) then on 3rd down it slips through a receivers hands and doinks off someone's helmet and now the Ravens are going for the win

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 03:52 (nine months ago) link

oh Ravens just fumbled. oh well, I'm sure nothing incredibly weird will happen now

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 03:53 (nine months ago) link

what happened

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 September 2021 21:40 (nine months ago) link

dunno if I've ever seen a QB throw a pick in that game situation before

frogbs, Friday, 17 September 2021 03:27 (nine months ago) link

didn't expect this kinda old school 80s NFC East barnburner but i'll take it

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 03:28 (nine months ago) link

Giants really fucked that though, they needed a first down and not only was that route short of it, fucker dropped it anyway.

gave Washington the equivalent of 2 timeouts to get a field goal.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 03:29 (nine months ago) link

my mom is a Giants fan and is screaming at the Giants right now.

it's ridiculous how they have kept shooting themselves in the foot tonight. that was ballgame there.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 03:41 (nine months ago) link

fucking hell these NFC East teams really know how to lose in the most excruciating fashion

frogbs, Friday, 17 September 2021 03:42 (nine months ago) link

Washington sure af shouldn't act cocky after this one though, they played like shit defensively and benefitted from playing a much stupider team

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 03:43 (nine months ago) link

in retrospect dropping a wide open touchdown wound up costing the Giants big time

frogbs, Friday, 17 September 2021 03:43 (nine months ago) link

yep. even Daniel Jones had a "what the fuck, man" look on his face after that

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 03:47 (nine months ago) link

receiver should retire IMO

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 03:47 (nine months ago) link

two extremely goofy NFL games in a row

symsymsym, Friday, 17 September 2021 05:28 (nine months ago) link

my Fins don't ever do anything that sets them up for success in the future, so I'm skeptical too. wouldn't be surprised if we step backwards next year now. yay.

lol at Judge keeping his job, he's legit a terrible coach and his fanbase basically wants his head on a pike.

they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 January 2022 15:24 (five months ago) link

one of three black nfl head coaches gets fired after posting back-to-back winning seasons, stay classy league

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 January 2022 15:28 (five months ago) link

Amazing that they leave the GM that drafted an offensive line that boasts 4 of the 5 worst linemen in the league with his job intact.

yeah that's what amazes me about this, it seems very very obvious what the Dolphins' problem is and it's not Flores

frogbs, Monday, 10 January 2022 15:40 (five months ago) link

I feel like Flores will get a chance somewhere else

well turn out the lights on the Mike Zimmer/Chris Spielman era

will overall look back fondly on Zimmer, will definitely miss his crusty old school demeanor in press conferences

was a solid run overall, but I felt like when we didn't get to the Super Bowl after the Minneapolis Miracle that was his shot and when that didn't happen it was just going to be the long decline

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 January 2022 15:45 (five months ago) link

nepotism brought him down

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 January 2022 15:46 (five months ago) link

I mean, he wasn't fault-free, but our fanbase is terrible and ownership seems to do the same kneejerk shit our fanbase wants. we run players out of town who are actually good and go on to great careers with other teams, and Tua has been basically deemed "not the answer" since he took his first snap last year.

for years it was "Ryan Tannehill isn't an elite qb". guess what? Only like 3-5 QBs will ever be ELITE at a time, hence the word "elite". 2nd tier QBs can still play very well and win! ffs Joe Flacco won a super bowl! and now Tannehill is going to the playoffs....again. and is doing well in Tennessee, and our fans are acting shocked.

we'll run Tua out of town too and he'll be a next level player somewhere, I'm sure of it. probably for a division rival.

they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 January 2022 15:49 (five months ago) link

xxpost

they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 January 2022 15:50 (five months ago) link

one of three black nfl head coaches gets fired after posting back-to-back winning seasons, stay classy league

― roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Monday, January 10, 2022 10:28 AM bookmarkflaglink

also the first time Miami had back to back winning seasons in 19 years. but hey, Stephen Ross doesn't gaf. also doesn't mind pursuing a rapist QB (which I"m praying he doesn't do again)

they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 January 2022 15:52 (five months ago) link

Zimmer's a bummer, but I felt like it was a forgone conclusion this year.

really hoping Vikings can get their SB ring sooner than later, fanbase deserves it.

they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 January 2022 15:53 (five months ago) link

appreciate that, but not holding my breath

I honestly wouldn't be mad if they looked into Flores

but sounds like they will hire a GM first and let them do the hire which is really the right way to do it

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 January 2022 15:57 (five months ago) link

also doesn't mind pursuing a rapist QB (which I"m praying he doesn't do again)

― they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Monday, January 10, 2022 10:52 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

apparently a big reason why watson wanted to go to miami was to play with flores. who even knows what the hell is happening here

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 January 2022 18:24 (five months ago) link

xp anyone w that huge a ticket couldve easily (?) hedged both sides when OT started & made nice $

I don't think you could've? What do you hedge with, betting a lot of money on the Raiders moneyline and a lot on the Chargers moneyline? Wouldn't those just cancel each other out?

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 10 January 2022 21:16 (five months ago) link

xpost I would literally win the lottery and pay Grier not to take Watson at this point.

also because of the fucking bullshit way the media and Miami has treated Tua, who seems to be subject to a different set of standards than most other QBs. like did he murder a lot of dogs or something

they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 January 2022 21:50 (five months ago) link

xpost yeah a parlay = "all of these things have to happen for you to win", not something you could revisit once OT started. Most sportsbooks have a Cashout feature if your outcome is likely but you don't want to risk waiting for end of game, but I don't think that would be allowed in the case of OT, where it's far more likely someone will score than not.

they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 January 2022 21:53 (five months ago) link

True but this game did have a particularly unusual dynamic. When it got down to 3 minutes I honestly thought they may just kneel it to prevent a turnover. But I guess getting to play Cincinnati instead of KC is worth the risk.

frogbs, Monday, 10 January 2022 23:29 (five months ago) link

one of three black nfl head coaches gets fired after posting back-to-back winning seasons, stay classy league

back down to one, but i’m sure eric bienenemy and byron leftwich will enjoy being interviewed eight times each

mookieproof, Friday, 14 January 2022 17:43 (five months ago) link

fired after one season and getting wins with a third round rookie qb. It's such bullshit.

symsymsym, Saturday, 15 January 2022 02:32 (five months ago) link

two weeks pass...

this seems uhh really bad for the league

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/02/hue-jackson-suggests-he-was-paid-extra-for-losses-as-browns-head-coach/

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 17:05 (five months ago) link

the problem is what the reaction will be.

fans could theoretically file class action suits if this turned out to be true, as it could be considered a form of fraud. so the NFL will probably try to blame a few 'bad apples' as owners, fine them, and then will change the draft into a lottery system like the NBA.

and they'll be happier that people are focusing on THIS problem than the other, racially-concerning items brought up.

he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 17:09 (five months ago) link

wild stuff but I totally believe it

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 17:52 (five months ago) link

Flores sounds like a stand-up dude.

DJI, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 17:53 (five months ago) link

on the one hand, I really dislike how he handled Tua (telling him "if you're gonna be that bad, I'd have drafted Mac Jones" in the middle of a game).

on the other, he was royally fucked and I support him 100% on this. and I hate our owner and hope he's given the donald STerling treatment.

he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 18:39 (five months ago) link

if true, i'd imagine the league takes this way more seriously than sterling was by the nba, just given that they are increasingly in bed with gambling companies and preserving the integrity of games (and the notion that there are payoffs to throw games, which is really just the owner doing what mob guys used to do in boxing) really threatens that, which i would imagine is their biggest area of potential earnings growth.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 18:49 (five months ago) link

i mean shit if donald sterling was an nfl owner i'd expect he'd still own the team

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 18:49 (five months ago) link

yeah the gambling link is an interesting angle, and why I am guessing Congress will threaten to investigate the NFL (like they always do) for 'improprieties'.

whereas come on, we know teams tank, we always did, the thing was you just never actually fessed up to it for good. Flores broke the unwritten rule but paying someone to tank IS a touch beyond "encouraging playing younger players for development purposes, if you get my drift wink wink".

he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 18:54 (five months ago) link

I read Joe Posnanski's Browns Diary during the Hue Jackson years and he was always bewildered by some of the moves (particularly in-game) that Cleveland would make, often writing stuff like "I know for a fact that Jackson is a better coach than this, he never did this kind of thing with the Raiders, so what is going on here?" That 0-16 Browns team was far from average but there's no reason they should've lost every game; they weren't like the Lions of '08 where they just sucked at every position, they had a lot of talent but just blew games every which way they could. Joe never went as far to outright suggest they were throwing games on purpose, but he did use a lot of language like "it's almost as if..."

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 18:56 (five months ago) link

let’s burn down all sports

Somehow I knew this would come back to the Wizards. Just one of those years. Six Degrees Of Unconscionable. https://t.co/QJAFLtyGM4

— Dave Zirin (@EdgeofSports) February 2, 2022

mookieproof, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 19:04 (five months ago) link

OF COURSE they tanked!! Tanking is perfectly fine. They wouldn’t have gotten Myles Garrett otherwise and settled for, like, Solomon Thomas or some shit.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 19:12 (five months ago) link

it's not about tanking

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 19:17 (five months ago) link

Deliberately making in-game decisions that ensure a loss is called "taking a dive", not tanking.

Tanking is where you strip your team of talented, experienced players and field a team of talented but raw rookies and veteran mediocrities on cheap contracts you can ditch later. Then you let them play and lose, because the team was built specifically for losing games and can safely be expected to lose all on their own.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 19:24 (five months ago) link

yeah, being paid to lose is match-fixing. the type of thing mafiosos used to do in baseball in the early 20th century.

the NFL is going to get sued out the ass if it becomes apparent this isn't smoke and mirrors. and I have a feeling Flores has receipts.

he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 20:38 (five months ago) link

if he doesn't, the NFL is going to lean really hard on plausible deniability

he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 20:43 (five months ago) link

i personally don't see why match-fixing is illegal -- joke's on you if you're betting on games, honestly -- but yeah the rest of the world disagrees. particularly when the leagues now have such close relationships with gambling apps

mookieproof, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 20:47 (five months ago) link

well, there's the whole folly of buying tickets to games that you think aren't predetermined

he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 20:54 (five months ago) link

Jet fans will sue, then someone will remind them they weren't tanking, they just sucked

he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 20:54 (five months ago) link

i personally don't see why match-fixing is illegal -- joke's on you if you're betting on games, honestly -- but yeah the rest of the world disagrees. particularly when the leagues now have such close relationships with gambling apps

― mookieproof, Wednesday, February 2, 2022 2:47 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

well yeah, you kinda answered your own question there. if a team is deliberately trying to lose it's not just a rogue decision from the coach, and if several people know then in the gambler's mind that means HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE KNEW and deliberately FUCKED YOU OVER, which is just bad PR for sports betting all around

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 20:57 (five months ago) link

The fun thing about this is that it’s coming right as a No. 1 overall pick took a 2-14 team to the Super Bowl in 2 years so you could easily argue the Browns were actually right to do what they did

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 21:01 (five months ago) link

i need these tanking teams to drop little bread crumbs for Week 1 games from now on so I can clean up and retire

he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 21:08 (five months ago) link

i gotta say it is weird that nashville got to the superbowl in their first year actually in the city, teeing up years of .500 futility and a lot of early exits in the playoffs and somehow also a rabid tennessee fanbase that wasn't that into the game until they came thiiiiiiiiis close to a championship
probably just a coincidence

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2022 01:57 (five months ago) link

Posnanski has an article up about this and he mentions something I had totally forgotten about - when Hue Jackson got fired, he was notably pissed about it, which drew a lot of mockery because he only won 3 of his 40 games...but looking back it makes total sense, cuz the implicit agreement must've been that they were gonna actually start trying in Year 3

also makes the point that Hue was probably not literally paid $100k per loss, but rather that there was some clauses in his contract that rewarded him for doing dumb shit like starting Kizer every game

frogbs, Thursday, 3 February 2022 18:34 (five months ago) link

lol

Doug Pederson will need 3 wins to move into 5th place on the Jaguars all-time wins list, replacing current 5th place HC Urban Meyer.

— Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) February 4, 2022

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 February 2022 15:10 (five months ago) link

due to the nature of football as a sport the NFL hasn't had a major tanking problem but if they really want to eradicate the incentive to tank they're going to need to implement a lottery and some of the stuff the NBA has instituted. in the year that flores was allegedly offered money to tank, the dolphins would have been able to draft joe burrow had they actually tanked. burrow will end up being worth billions of dollars to the bengals if he plays a full career, and i think any dolphins fans would say it would've been worth all the losses, flores suing the team, the owner being thrown out of the league etc to have him. of course flores would probably still have his job if they had tanked for burrow. the browns main problem was not paying their coach to tank but tanking in a year where no elite QB was available (the year they took myles garrett) and then tanking for baker mayfield

J0rdan S., Friday, 4 February 2022 20:53 (five months ago) link

NFL to eye diversity efforts in wake of Flores suit

well that's sorted

mookieproof, Sunday, 6 February 2022 04:50 (four months ago) link

Kyler Murray just threw a pick six in the Pro Bowl

he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 February 2022 20:12 (four months ago) link

and now Kirk threw one

he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 February 2022 20:16 (four months ago) link

well ok not a pick six, but a pick

he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 February 2022 20:18 (four months ago) link

Lol now Russell Wilson did too.

This is execrable but I'm bored

he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 February 2022 20:28 (four months ago) link

“Herbert. Throws. It is caught. Second touchdown of the day for Andrews.”

I’ve never watched the Pro Bowl before. It really is as bad as everyone says.

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 6 February 2022 21:10 (four months ago) link

Yeah it doesn’t work at all for the same reason there’s not really a such thing as “pick up football” the way there is basketball and baseball (if you have enough people)

frogbs, Sunday, 6 February 2022 21:29 (four months ago) link

a. will the texans demand that lovie smith put josh mccown on his staff
b. how long before the latter replaces the former, because jesus

i mean i guess it's cool that lovie's getting paid

mookieproof, Tuesday, 8 February 2022 06:35 (four months ago) link


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