LII :::: the super bowl of hate :::: philadelphia eagles vs new england patritos

oh yeah, you're right, i have lost the plot

i hate it. if you cross the plain with possession whatever happens after shouldnt matter imo

let's just be happy the strip sack wasn't ruled an incomplete pass

yeah they really need to find a way to get closer to a looks like a catch definition f all this super slowmo replay where theyre trying to figure out if the ball is slightly moving around in a guys hands

I feel like the rule change after 1999 allowing part of the ball to touch the ground and still be a catch accelerated the expansion of the scope of "control" in the league. maybe they should revert to not letting the ball hit the ground, just say a catch is a catch if it looked like he caught it and it didn't hit the turf.

idk

f all this super slowmo replay where theyre trying to figure out if the ball is slightly moving around in a guys hands

otm

they should do live action voting. text 'yes' to 45344 if you think its a catch text 'no to 63404 if you dont think its a catch

if a catch is sick they shd allow it imo

"Dax Prescott has not thrown an incomplete pass all night due to voting-bloc collusion and robo-dialing by Cowboys fans"

play is under review - was the catch sick or nah

when will the nfl wise up and play with a felt ball while wearing velcro onesies?

he took three steps dove and reached out the ball the damn nfl has lost its mind lol

― lag∞n, Monday, February 5, 2018 1:00 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol he also changed direction has everyone gone completely insane

like for the love of god

i'm still hyped off that Clement stiff arm is where I'm at today.

might be cool to switch to a way more permissive definition of a catch just like does he have the ball no football move no surviving the ground no becoming a runner etc, wld result in a ton more catches and a ton of fumbles

let's just be happy the strip sack wasn't ruled an incomplete pass
― mookieproof, Monday, February 5, 2018

the clement td was more questionable than the ertz td imo the ertz was for sure an obvious catch you can't make that break the plane extension if you don't have full control. btw putting aside that the clement td *was* questionable - how amazing is it that this undrafted rookie RB scored a TD in the Superbowl??? i cannot get over it. i cannot get over this team. so much character on it.

the nfl in revamping their product shd go for encouraging wacky unpredictable shit eliminate the PAT do 2pt conversions only eliminate punting or have a limited number of punts per team radically more permissive reception rules as mentioned and so forth

Issue is control. Looks like he has it initially and gets both feet down in bounds. There is some movement of the ball, but don’t think enough to say loss of control. Call should stand.

— Dean Blandino (@DeanBlandino) February 5, 2018

they should bring in retired refs to give their analysis like tnt does with steve javie

someone - i want to say warren sharp - predicted a breakout game for corey clement because the patriots have been so bad covering rbs specifically on downfield routes and clement is a much better target for those than ajayi or blount. he was involved in a number of big plays, a huge wheel play in the first half i remember. i don't know if i had even heard of him before that mention.

I’m assuming this has been done in depth, so what do the techs who design social media algorithms say the nfl rules should “incorporate”?

after further analysis of the zapruder film it's been determined that when Jackie took three steps, dove, and reached out to grab JFK's brain she didn't have possession when she crossed the plane back into her seat so gonna have to rule that one incomplete.

xp violent collision, beer, institutional racism iirc

the nfl in revamping their product shd go for encouraging wacky unpredictable shit eliminate the PAT do 2pt conversions only eliminate punting or have a limited number of punts per team radically more permissive reception rules as mentioned and so forth

― lag∞n, Monday, February 5, 2018 1:20 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I agree, things of that nature

wonder if going for it on 4th is going to become more common now that dougie p has so enthusiastically embraced it and found success. meanwhile pats were conservative on 4th + 1.

it's pretty cool when it's 3rd and 1 and you know that the team actually has two downs to work w/

I agree, things of that nature

― k3vin k., Monday, February 5, 2018 1:33 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a more skilled version of college footballs wild ride if you will

they wont do it tho cause the owners/goodell are bloated ridiculous fools

btw mordy we did it!!

pfft did either of u even light anything on fire cmon

xp i still can't believe it! the entire office is kinda half dazed half ecstatic. u gonna be at the parade??? xp

eliminate the PAT do 2pt conversions only

my only qualm is that football taught me how to multiply by seven and going six/eight only would retroactively ruin my childhood

from now on, touchdowns worth 0 points, but merely get you the opportunity to kick the XP, which is now worth 7 points. so if you score a TD and miss the kick, 0 points.

still think Cooks trying and failing to hurdle McLeod was my favorite play, that was some real WWE shit

this got kinda lost but Eagles missing that XP early on kind of had a big ripple effect the rest of the game

Yep - attempting to jump over the head of someone six feet tall, who was more or less fully standing, while not using your arms for leverage was wonderfully ambitious.

he mighta gotten the first down if he hadn't left his feet too

so what's the real story re: malcolm butler

no one knows! but here's my nutty theory - belichick liked that rowe used to be on the eagles and thought that might give him an edge covering their receivers? (tho he never played w/ jeffrey who burned him for that early td). maybe combined w/ butler going to the hospital twice the week before w/ flu symptoms? (tho he was apparently totally healthy on wed so who really knows.)

i almost never listen to bill simmons but it's quite fun listening to his sadsack post-game podcast

seems to me it's probably that Bill is lying about it not being punitive. if it were to use different packages like he clumsily explained, he probably would have reinserted Butler in after he saw his alternate plan wasn't working. If it were due to illness, as some have suggested, Butler himself might not be so angry, but it seems pretty clear he felt fine enough to play even if he was violently sick in the lead-up.

unless Bill had a serious fear of him blowing coverage due to passing out on the field, I can't imagine that there wasn't some other reason, maybe something Butler did to infuriate Bill shortly before gametime. But Bill is used to players hating him by now so idk what that thing would be.

i kinda do believe that belichick is telling the truth and it was a football decision. maybe not a well thought out football decision but i gotta think he saw something he liked w/ rowe and something he didn't like w/ butler and got too clever by half

this should be taken with a huge grain of salt, but one theory...

https://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/a-writer-at-pff-is-saying-malcolm-butler-missed-curfew-got-caught-with-weed-then-had-a-meltdown-on-the-coaches/?_branch_match_id=456984123554125233

i can buy thinking that rowe on jeffrey and gilmore on smith was how they wanted to play the top 2 guys - altho it backfired horribly as jeffrey beat rowe multiple times on the first couple drives inc both the 3rd and 13 and the td - but with the eagles playing nearly the whole game with 3 wrs butler doesn't even get a snap? jonathan jones and jordan richards are trailing after agholor instead? whatever the reason it was v costly.

butler crying during the anthem biases me towards thinking he fucked up somehow. his head hasn't quite been there all season, altho i have sympathy with him given the contract stuff/gilmore.

i thought i read butler was on the field for a special teams play or two?

he was

one st snap recorded. that's like rubbing it in

i think i saw no st snaps all regular season, 1 vs jax, 1 vs phl

meanwhile on the field for 98% of reg season def snaps

anyway, i hear folks here are keeping their cool and the 2nd call to weei this morning was someone demaning belichick be replaced with mcdaniels

its gets missed in all the glory but belichick has lost a bunch of playoff games via being stubborn