2017 NFL Off-season Thread (Draft, Injuries, Firings & Police Blotter Edition)

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Sad to say it looks bad for Teddy Bridgewater as it looks like he is out for all of 2017 too. This was stated as a possibility considering the damage he had.


Don't think it got posed, but of course Adam Pacman Jones kinda blew the late career maturity angle and got the Bengals off season off to a roaring start in one fail swoop.

earlnash, Friday, 27 January 2017 22:03 (seven years ago) link

man that is brutal.

Neanderthal, Friday, 27 January 2017 23:25 (seven years ago) link

is there any reason, beyond appeasing gamblers, why the league is so interested in richard sherman and leveon bell's injury reports?

mookieproof, Saturday, 28 January 2017 17:54 (seven years ago) link

That is a big reason, there is a whole lot of money bet on football. I'd think holding back on a guy like Bell being really barely able to play on a report could swing a line a couple points easy and also keep national betters away from the Steelers to cut profit.

earlnash, Monday, 30 January 2017 01:34 (seven years ago) link


smart kid

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 10 February 2017 14:42 (seven years ago) link


Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 16 February 2017 23:53 (seven years ago) link

revis otm

didn't realize he could still hit that hard tho

mookieproof, Friday, 17 February 2017 00:31 (seven years ago) link

Vince Young is wanting to make a comeback or at least his bank account probably wishes it could happen. Jeff George sits by the phone waiting.

earlnash, Friday, 17 February 2017 07:19 (seven years ago) link


lol at the browns tagging a 36yo (and then 37yo) kicker

mookieproof, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 00:46 (six years ago) link

lol the ref's expression always gets me

nomar, Thursday, 9 March 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link

Stunner: Texans trade Brock Osweiler AND 2018 2nd-rd pick to CLEV for Browns to take Osweiler contract off Houston books, sources tell ESPN.


mookieproof, Thursday, 9 March 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link

what the

nomar, Thursday, 9 March 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link

amazing. a real pick too. jesus christ

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 9 March 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link

these are the picks the browns still have this season, too:

First round: First pick.
First round: 12th pick.
Second round: First pick, 33rd overall.
Second round: 20th pick, 52nd overall (via trade with Titans in 2016).

nomar, Thursday, 9 March 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

of course the next level here is to use the pick they got for taking on his contract towards getting the qb that they actually want. that would be p brutal

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 9 March 2017 20:49 (six years ago) link

it's totally wacky out there right now. i can't remember nfl free agency day ever being this good.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 9 March 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link


Mordy, Thursday, 9 March 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link

1 year deal is interesting. i'm surprised he went for it. also i think the torrey smith signing is underrated, ppl are holding 2 years with the 49ers against the guy. the package of jeffrey plus smith as a foil is a huge upgrade. we'll see if wentz actually has anything to him

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 9 March 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link

“We’re really excited to acquire a second round draft choice in this trade,” said Executive Vice President of Football Operations Sashi Brown. “Draft picks are extremely important to our approach in building a championship caliber football team."

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 9 March 2017 23:09 (six years ago) link

wentz has gotta be excited to have jeffrey to throw to. 1 drop on something like 92 targets last year iirc.

Mordy, Thursday, 9 March 2017 23:14 (six years ago) link

Browns also signed a huge deal for c/g Kevin Zeitler to go with Joe Thomas on the o-line.

earlnash, Friday, 10 March 2017 01:09 (six years ago) link

browns 'chief strategy officer' is my boy paul de podesta who got ran out of town as GM of the dodgers because the moronic local sportswriters were offended he dare used 'data' and 'computers' in his evaluations. fuckin nerd.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 10 March 2017 01:22 (six years ago) link

You want to have a young QB look like he knows what he is doing, put him behind a good O-line. I think it is a major reason guys like Prescott and Wilson were able to shine out of the gate - of course those clubs were pretty much loaded, not quite there on the Browns. That said, I think they seem to be on the right way to build.

earlnash, Friday, 10 March 2017 02:41 (six years ago) link

this was posted on garoppolo IG: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6jLGwxV0AAmUK7.jpg

now claiming that it was a prank/hack but my guess is that his "team" was queuing it up for later and jumped the gun.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 10 March 2017 14:34 (six years ago) link

Oh yay - the Niners get Brian Hoyer.

DJI, Friday, 10 March 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link

The niners should have a Garcia rule that bald qbs should have to wear #5.

earlnash, Friday, 10 March 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link

so...mike mayock is being reported as a candidate for the washington gm job

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 10 March 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link


mookieproof, Friday, 17 March 2017 15:58 (six years ago) link

bofa is right

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 17 March 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link


mookieproof, Monday, 20 March 2017 19:26 (six years ago) link


johnny crunch, Monday, 20 March 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link

elway just saw kraft/belichick put a guy in the white house and he wants a piece of that action

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 20 March 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

Troy Vincent ✔@TroyVincent23
We're developing an educational training video for players to show clear examples of appropriate and inappropriate celebrations.

nomar, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link

uh, Key & Peele already made that video


frogbs, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 16:51 (six years ago) link

I've seen articles tagging on Cleveland for stating they are looking elsewhere than QB for their first pick. Seems that with Watson and Trubisky as the two big QBs, that seems a smart move to me. They 'might' be pretty good - but those two also look like high candidates for bust city too.

earlnash, Thursday, 23 March 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link

Vegas, baby

a but (brimstead), Thursday, 23 March 2017 23:34 (six years ago) link

welp hope the Texans had a Plan B:


Neanderthal, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 13:55 (six years ago) link

A source informed of the situation told Rapoport that Romo will land with CBS this season to replace Phil Simms as an analyst with Jim Nantz on game broadcasts.

our long national nightmare is over

Brad C., Tuesday, 4 April 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link

not until Joe Buck is gone too

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link


Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link

Tony Romo is now #1 analyst at CBS taking over for Phil Simms!

Shit no wonder he retired, that is a way better gig than qb of the Texans.

earlnash, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link

Good riddance to Phil Simms! Now if they can just get his smug ass off of Inside the NFL...

DJI, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 21:17 (six years ago) link

idgi for cbs. with no experience, romo's unlikely to be better than trent green or even dan fouts. and no one watches a game because of the announcer -- if they want to capitalize on romo's star power, such as it is, they should put him on the studio show

then he too could call bill cowher 'coach' until the end of time

mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link

Dan Fouts is pretty good, especially on radio.

earlnash, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link

i feel like the plan was just to put simms out to pasture

i think the converse is true too where no one *doesnt* watch cuz of the announcer so room there will just be much more trending/relevant than someone w actual experience

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 13:53 (six years ago) link

lol the follow up says he drank the paint deliberately because he thought it would make him "harder to tackle in neighborhood football games"!

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link


Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 13 July 2017 00:25 (six years ago) link


johnny crunch, Thursday, 13 July 2017 01:24 (six years ago) link


call all destroyer, Thursday, 13 July 2017 01:27 (six years ago) link

had no idea bout this gettleman stuff, seems like players hated him


Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 17 July 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link

i guess he's not good at breakups. talented drafter tho.

call all destroyer, Monday, 17 July 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link

Really dumb move on the Panthers part, imo. Players don't need to like the GM. In fact I'd prefer it if they don't.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link

so, against all odds (TALAMN) this is a fairly interesting take on one of the most boring conversations in football


Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link

Got to admit considering team history, it is pretty funny that the Cowboys cut the guy that it turned out on review actually did not do a crime.

earlnash, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 02:31 (six years ago) link

and the way they have circled the wagons around zeke elliott at every opportunity

I Love You, Fancybear (symsymsym), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 03:07 (six years ago) link

this le'veon bell thing is ugly

i mean, he's making $12m this year and will probably make $14m next year, so he'll be mostly okay. but i agree, he should be making a lot more, right now. but given the artificial salary cap, the steelers would be crazy to give him a big long-term deal -- he'll be 27 when those two franchise tags are gone, and running backs simply don't last much longer than that.

in baseball, players are drastically underpaid their six seasons and the stars, at least, make up for it by being overpaid later in their careers. (there are over 100 baseball players making at least $12m this year.) most football players don't have that kind of time, but RBs especially so.

they really need to go on strike, dammit

mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 03:32 (six years ago) link

There are always quite a few retirements this time of year, but it does seem like a few more than usual. Definitely a few guys walking away early.

earlnash, Monday, 31 July 2017 22:31 (six years ago) link

Three years after using two first-round draft picks and a fourth-round draft pick to acquire him, the Bills are moving on from Sammy Watkins.

Watkins, the talented but so far disappointing wide receiver, has been traded to the Rams. To replace him, the Bills have acquired receiver Jordan Matthews from the Eagles.

The Bills announced that they’ve shipped Watkins and a sixth-round draft pick to the Rams for cornerback E.J. Gaines and a second-round draft pick. Separately, the Bills announced that they sent cornerback Ronald Darby to the Eagles for Jordan Matthews and a third-round draft pick.


Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 11 August 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link

Zeke suspended for six games

Mordy, Friday, 11 August 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link

the report


nomar, Friday, 11 August 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link

i want every player to sit for every anthem all season

mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link

That's not good. #Jets #Hackenberg pic.twitter.com/W4ljH0aftT

— New York Jet Fuel (@NewYorkJetFuel) August 20, 2017

Life comes at you fast, especially if you're a Jets QB

(Video via @viral__sports) #NYJvsDETpic.twitter.com/IlaWxiiBZC

— YourSports (@YourSports) August 20, 2017

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 20 August 2017 12:02 (six years ago) link

former espn titans guy paul kuharsky just started a homebrew patreon. he will be friends with you for $100/mo

You get a site subscription plus major perks in the form of access to me. You’re invited to four get togethers a year where I will buy the first round and we will build a circle of trust and talk about a lot of stuff that doesn’t wind up in print. These events may feature special guests. You’ll get me and my bad golf game in your foursome once a year, or if you don’t golf we’ll find a comparable way to get together. You’ll get a spot in a Pick ‘Em pool where we will all pick every game all season long against the spread and see if we can fare better than a coin flip. (I’ve lost to the coin before.) You’ll get my cell phone number and be part of some group texts in addition to being able to text me within reason.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link

what if there is no reason to text?

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link

here are my football bets this year so far:

Cowboys over 9.5 wins
Jets over 4 wins
Stafford to throw over 23.5 TDs
Ben Roethilsburghergh to play less than 14.5 games

Big Ben one seems like free money but I'm reluctant to throw more on it

frogbs, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link

roffles one does seem like easy money but the others all make me a lil uncomfortable. certainly i don't want to be the guy betting on the jets to win games. but good luck!

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link

Cowboys I got locked in right after the Zeke suspension dropped the line by a full game. They've got a tough schedule but I think they're actually going to be quite good, plus Zeke's probably only getting at the most 4, likely only 2 or 3

Jets - yeah I don't wanna be that guy either, but the line was good (+160) and I still split on 4-12. It's kind of difficult to project with any accuracy that a team is going to lose 13 games. Granted Jets do seem to be on that trajectory, but if I squint hard enough I can almost see them being better than last year ??? IDK

Stafford one is entirely up to him staying healthy. He doesn't throw as many TDs as I thought he did but I think the Lions will have to rely heavily on his arm as always, they're probably gonna be behind a lot which usually inflates those numbers

frogbs, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link

for sure i can see any of those coming in. nfc east seems like it might be strong this year so 10 wins might've be hard for dallas to find with a full zeke season. cue the nfc east being hot garbage now i have said that tho. stafford line is so well set, career wise 24 looks like an average season for him, but i think where he is at now 24 is actually a good season. but that's a good point about them maybe having to throw from behind more.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link

Jamaal Charles looks like Jamaal Charles
Charean Williams,ProFootball Talk on NBC Sports 12 hours ago

Jamaal Charles looked like Jamaal Charles in limited work Saturday night in his preseason debut.

nomar, Sunday, 27 August 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link

a man runs the ball

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 28 August 2017 03:00 (six years ago) link

Time was a man run the ball down the street

Neanderthal, Monday, 28 August 2017 03:38 (six years ago) link

Workshop an ilnfl post: I want to write a post about how I feel bad for vontaze burfict that he got suspended 5 games for a hit that might not even have been illegal, and I can't decide whether to end it with '...not!' or 'sike!'

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 28 August 2017 11:35 (six years ago) link

I guess the most important thing is fuck that guy

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 28 August 2017 11:35 (six years ago) link


This is the coldest move by a punter I've ever seen pic.twitter.com/TBlGStBsvi

— Eric Fawcett (@Efawcett7) August 27, 2017

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 28 August 2017 12:46 (six years ago) link


frogbs, Monday, 28 August 2017 13:27 (six years ago) link

no joke - Matt Stafford is now the highest paid player in NFL history

Mordy, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link

not all that surprising - he ain't great, but he's above-average, and a lot of teams would pay out the nose for someone above average at the QB position

frogbs, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link

his career earnings must be thru the roof too.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

Jets starting QB week 1- wait for it - Josh McCown.

earlnash, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 12:50 (six years ago) link

fortunately they'll be able to supplement their stable of garbage qb prospects with a top 5 pick in the next draft

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 13:12 (six years ago) link

shut up guys they're going 5-11

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 13:16 (six years ago) link


i don't really know where their defense is supposed to be at this year but it feels like they've drafted approx 1m defense players in the last few drafts so maybe that will all come together for them

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 13:20 (six years ago) link

tbf, he appears to be a better cartoonist than a lotta guys currently publishing in newspapers

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link

would be much better if the can said "Bepis"

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link

this is p interesting, on the evolution of qb evaluation


Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 31 August 2017 14:59 (six years ago) link

Random Aaron Rodgers fan kisses him on the head and he looks at the camera like he's in an episode of The Office 😂 pic.twitter.com/4XNhqmM2uK

— Eric Fawcett (@Efawcett7) September 1, 2017

mookieproof, Friday, 1 September 2017 03:56 (six years ago) link

nfl twitter is extremely excited about patrick mahomes

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 1 September 2017 15:24 (six years ago) link

mostly because of this


personally i want to know why he looks backwards at one point

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 1 September 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link

jets trade sheldon richardson to seattle for jermaine kearse and some loose change. seattle gets even stronger in a position of strength and looks to be left with a shallow and fragile wr corps. meanwhile, frogbs's 5 wins for the jets is starting to look like everest.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 1 September 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link

The Cleveland Browns are releasing quarterback Brock Osweiler, sources confirmed to ESPN's Adam Schefter.

The Browns owe Osweiler $16 million, but Cleveland does get Houston's 2018 second-round pick as part of the offseason trade between the two.

nomar, Friday, 1 September 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link

going back to the broncos apparently.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Saturday, 2 September 2017 23:21 (six years ago) link


Neanderthal, Sunday, 3 September 2017 02:38 (six years ago) link

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