no one needs to beat michigan, that would be unfair and sad
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Sunday, 3 December 2023 05:44 (six months ago) link
shouldn’t be a hard decision for committee: three undefeated teams plus the team that beat the sec champ
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Sunday, 3 December 2023 05:45 (six months ago) link
*someone* needs to beat michigan
i'm sorry but this is the most immediate priority
i could maybe, against all my upbringing and culture, root for michigan in some very specific situations? but not with harbaugh. that guy is an utter prick, even apart from the whole 'laying flowers on bo schembechler's grave' stuff
i'm not even sure i could root for him over dabo! which is, honestly, damn
― mookieproof, Sunday, 3 December 2023 05:57 (six months ago) link
xp so you are requesting alabama in the semifinal?
― mookieproof, Sunday, 3 December 2023 05:59 (six months ago) link
penalizing FSU for having a injured starter/backup like some sportswriters have suggested seems dumb, like the body of work should matter
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 December 2023 06:06 (six months ago) link
xcept the criteria to select teams into the playoff specifically sez injuries matter iirc
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 3 December 2023 09:27 (six months ago) link
I sooooooooo hope somehow the SEC gets let out of this thing just for the LOLs.
I can't see the TV people letting that happen, but lord it would be hilarious.
Being an IU almnus, I was always more of a Michigan guy as I HATE Ohio State fans from how they used to act when those drunken bozos would come into Bloomington when I was in college working in bar/restaurants. I get not liking Harbaugh but good lord would it blow the f'ning minds of all those southern redneck college football fans if they won it all and somehow their beloved Tide was not even allowed to play.
I'd be cool with Washington winning it all, as that first Oregon/Washington game was probably the most entertaining game I saw in football all year and it sounds like the rematch was a classic too.
Michigan is loaded though and I would really like to see what they can do against Alabama or Georgia as I kinda think they might actually truly could be better than them this particular season.
Listening to Feinbaum's radio show has given me total animus to despise the southern college foootball culture even more than I kinda did before. Football is a horrible terrible thing but even in that those people suck (except maybe some of the Atlanta Georgia people as I liked that town quite a bit when I was there for a couple weeks for work and watched a Dawgs game in a laundromat off Peachtree a few years back).
― earlnash, Sunday, 3 December 2023 13:30 (six months ago) link
I got nothing against Austin, but man I don't want any of those redneck Texas fans to enjoy anything while their government is being a$$holes of the nation.
― earlnash, Sunday, 3 December 2023 13:33 (six months ago) link
― mookieproof, Sunday, December 3, 2023 12:59 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
the team that beat the 2023 sec champ (bama) which is texas
sorry bama, you shouldn’t have lost to texas. that game doesn’t mean any less just because it happened in september
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Sunday, 3 December 2023 13:42 (six months ago) link
who remembers the legendarily fluky iron bowl? no one? it was literally last week
And who did Auburn lost to the week before the Iron Bowl...yes that's right New Mexico State.
Florida State also beat LSU by 3 TDs, so they got a bit of bonifides.
― earlnash, Sunday, 3 December 2023 17:46 (six months ago) link
FSU should be in over Texas
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 3 December 2023 18:37 (six months ago) link
Texas win over Alabama was too early in the season.
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 3 December 2023 18:38 (six months ago) link
Texas also had least impressive conference championship opponent
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 3 December 2023 18:40 (six months ago) link
that lost by 42 to UCF a few weeks earlier
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 3 December 2023 18:41 (six months ago) link
why does early in the season matter? bama should’ve beaten texas if they wanted to make the playoffs
the noles got hosed
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Sunday, 3 December 2023 19:49 (six months ago) link
the committee might’ve just nuked the acc
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Sunday, 3 December 2023 19:50 (six months ago) link
Early in the season has always mattered for losses because teams get better. That should cut both ways, though.
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 3 December 2023 21:22 (six months ago) link
Problem with college football is there's too much of a human factor in who gets crowned.
March Madness works out perfectly because it's such a big, long tournament and the best don't usually get left out of it.
NCAA Football routinely leaves out the best and we just accept it because meh
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 December 2023 21:57 (six months ago) link
It's great for starting arguments tho
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 4 December 2023 01:19 (six months ago) link
even #1 Michigan is questionable. Not clear they are any better than last year. The schedule was weak until they played OSU at home. Not much difference with FSU outside of QB injury.
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 December 2023 02:15 (six months ago) link
IMHO, Michigan fans are as insufferable as THE Ohio State fans.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 4 December 2023 02:16 (six months ago) link
their OC cried the most on television? Maybe that's the difference?
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 December 2023 02:16 (six months ago) link
and tbc, I cry all of the time. But for Jim Harbaugh?
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 December 2023 02:35 (six months ago) link
michigan is the only team in the tourney with wins over two teams currently in the top 10 *shrug*
also #1 in all the fancy stats
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 December 2023 02:47 (six months ago) link
Washington beat Oregon twice. I think Oregon definitely beats Penn State.
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 December 2023 03:04 (six months ago) link
With Michigan a clear No. 1 in SP+ and facing a playoff with the No. 6, 7 and 11 teams, here are your national title odds per SP+.Michigan 49%Texas 25%Alabama 17%Washington 10%Michigan's gonna need to underachieve (again) for this to be a particularly interesting CFP.— Bill Connelly (@ESPN_BillC) December 4, 2023
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 December 2023 03:18 (six months ago) link
lol they "underachieved" when TCU beat them. They have a better shot this year because of the teams in it with them.
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 December 2023 03:25 (six months ago) link
they did underachieve both times—they were #2 and the #2 team is expected to make the title
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 December 2023 03:29 (six months ago) link
tho who am i to question a notre dame fan on the question of underachieving
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 December 2023 03:30 (six months ago) link
exactly!
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 December 2023 03:34 (six months ago) link
we are the same, you and I. *curls bony fingers into grotesque shape*
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 December 2023 03:36 (six months ago) link
anyway, my only argument here is that Michigan and FSU deserve to be in it.
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 December 2023 03:41 (six months ago) link
this, really. if you can run the table in a power conference and not make the top four, are you really a power conference?
the only ranked teams FSU beat were LSU, duke (lol), and louisville
god help the ACC if FSU gets crushed by georgia, which they probably should unless the latter has completely checked out
― mookieproof, Monday, 4 December 2023 03:45 (six months ago) link
yeah, they will likely be crushed. Doesn't mean they couldn't have beaten any of the 4 in the playoffs, though.
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 December 2023 03:47 (six months ago) link
The idea that it'd be a shocking underachievement for Michigan to lose the CFB playoffs is insanity. They can definitely lose either game. They will likely lose the first one.
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 December 2023 03:48 (six months ago) link
the ACC question doesn't really matter because the pac-12 is done and the playoff expansion
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 December 2023 03:50 (six months ago) link
I agree that FSU was hurt by their road win over the OC that beat Michigan in the CFB playoff last year not coubting more.
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 December 2023 03:52 (six months ago) link
obviously i am Old but having conferences where everyone doesn't play each other every year in football + home and away in basketball -- and then pretending that a conference championship means something -- is fucking stupid
― mookieproof, Monday, 4 December 2023 04:03 (six months ago) link
honestly football ruins everything
― mookieproof, Monday, 4 December 2023 04:04 (six months ago) link
they are fast forwarding to the professional model, it sucks very hard
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 December 2023 04:18 (six months ago) link
well, except for the “players getting paid” part
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 December 2023 04:19 (six months ago) link
yeah, that part is good. The transfer portal is madness, though. It is evem less restrictive than the professional model, I think?
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 December 2023 04:23 (six months ago) link
Kyle McCord missing the Cotton Bowl to enter the portal after Day would not confirm him as next year's starter in an interview.
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 December 2023 14:51 (six months ago) link
i don’t think michigan’s offense is good enough to win two playoff games — likely not even one. they skated thru the entire season w/o having to pass the ball & they really don’t have much talent at the skill positions aside from corum. bama is gonna dare their passing game to beat their secondary & i wish michigan luck in that endeavor
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Monday, 4 December 2023 17:17 (six months ago) link
the thing w/ ACC is that it’s been a dead conference walking since at least this summer, literally the only thing holding together is a very shortsighted, very long term TV contract the schools signed. FSU, clemson, miami etc would all still be bolting at the first available opportunity regardless of what happened w/ this playoff and anyway i don’t buy the logic that this reflects on the conference, it’s simply about the QB. nobody is making the argument that texas > FSU bcuz of the big 12. i think the committee sees SEC & big 10 on one level and everyone else on another. they ultimately made a decision that the potential entertainment value of future games is more important than the results of previous ones, and i think that will have real long term implications for the sport. but it all feels irrespective of conference to me
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Monday, 4 December 2023 17:23 (six months ago) link
I agree on UM. They need turnovers and/or special teams to score against good defense. The Big 10 offenses they faced were bad, so it's also hard to know how good their defense is. Nobody in the Big 10 scored on them last year, and then they gave up 51 to TCU.
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 December 2023 17:37 (six months ago) link
of course, Conor Stalions also didn't buy any TCU tickets last year.
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:19 (six months ago) link
gotta wonder if he still had bama on the list after the texas loss…
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:22 (six months ago) link
the tempo free, opponent adjusted stats are right there. michigan has the #10 offense in college football. other notable skill players: donovan edwards (misused so far this year, but still a five-star talent), massive tight end colston loveland, speedster wide receiver roman wilson.
they didn't put up massive numbers against the #2, #3 and #4 defenses in college football. but they still scored 24, 30, and 26 points in each of those games. that should be enough to win if their defense plays well.
― kissinger on my list (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:28 (six months ago) link