what about andy dalton
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 January 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
Dalton is the best of that bunch but I wouldn't feel superconfident if he was my QB. They could use a better RB and more line help.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 12 January 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
exactly. having A.J. Green (who looks destined to be in the megaelite class with Fitz and Megatron) certainly doesn't hurt but IMO Dalton's ceiling is Chad Pennington, and in you could probably win a lot of games with him as long as you don't expect him to be like Rodgers and Brady.
― frogbs, Thursday, 12 January 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
no way would i lump dalton in with the rest of those jokers. he had a pretty damn good rookie season.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 12 January 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
naw, with those jokers is exactly where dalton belongs. he was bad at least as often as he was good, he just had an unbelievable rookie wr to hurl the ball in the general vicinity of, an underrated tight end safety valve, and a generous early season schedule.
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 12 January 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
right, I think A.J. Green makes him look better than he actually is. Dalton's deep ball tends to be pretty terrible
― frogbs, Thursday, 12 January 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
dalton's showed more arm strength this year than i ever would've guessed when he came out. he's got potential, to be sure
― maghrib is back (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 12 January 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
Not every rookie who is thrust into a starting role from game 1 is Cam Newton, you know? I see a lot of positive things, and maybe after a full training camp the dude can be pretty good. Pennington seems like a fair comparison.
But Gabbert and Clausen, I mean... Gabbert looks terrified out there, and Clausen was such a disaster.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
The fact that Gabbert got drafted ahead of Dalton shows that the art of drafting QBs is still a total crapshoot.
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 13 January 2012 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
yeah check out the QB comedy draft of 2007:
JaMarcus Russell Raiders Louisiana StateBrady Quinn Browns Notre DameKevin Kolb Eagles HoustonJohn Beck Dolphins Brigham YoungDrew Stanton Lions Michigan StateTrent Edwards Bills StanfordIsaiah Stanback Cowboys WashingtonJeff Rowe Bengals NevadaTroy Smith Ravens Ohio StateJordan Palmer Redskins Texas-El PasoTyler Thigpen Vikings Coastal Carolina
― omar little, Friday, 13 January 2012 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
wooah
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 13 January 2012 01:40 (twelve years ago) link
Whitlock on the Mike Silver column:
My takeaway is that within the Raiders organization there are a lot of beaten-down, worthless Al Davis flunkies who are scared McKenzie has been given the autonomy to scrub the place clean of beaten-down, worthless Al Davis flunkies. The Al Davis-Oakland gravy train has run out of gravy and starving, beaten-down, worthless Al Davis flunkies are crying on the laptop of the media member Al Davis despised the most, Mike Silver.
Yep, Silver established his reputation as arguably the best NFL writer in the country (Silver is far superior to Peter the King) by repeatedly going toe-to-toe with Al Davis. It’s comical watching Hue-bris feign undying loyalty and respect for Al Davis while collaborating with Davis’ top media enemy on stories that paint Al’s son as inept.
Which leads me back to my main point: The city of Oakland should throw a parade for whoever — Mark Davis or Reggie McKenzie — was responsible for kicking Hue-bris Jackson to the curb.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/hue-jackson-hubris-not-racism-got-him-fired-by-oakland-raiders-011211
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 13 January 2012 04:30 (twelve years ago) link
uhhhh
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 January 2012 04:30 (twelve years ago) link
as ever, jason whitlock makes a salient point while still managing to be an ass
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 January 2012 04:31 (twelve years ago) link
rmde @ "Hue-bris"
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 January 2012 04:43 (twelve years ago) link
mike sliver (intentionally misspelled) of talent
― omar little, Friday, 13 January 2012 05:06 (twelve years ago) link
if you're an editor and you let someone make a "Hue-bris" joke over 20 times in a column you should be fired immediately
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 January 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
The Hue-bris thing is genius.
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 January 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
fisher to the rams apparently
― this is funny u bitter dork (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 14 January 2012 04:28 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ brian schottenheimer 2 rams
― johnny crunch, Monday, 16 January 2012 04:12 (twelve years ago) link
im just glad the falcons dodged that bullet
― maghrib is back (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 16 January 2012 04:13 (twelve years ago) link
Alabama, too.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 16 January 2012 04:46 (twelve years ago) link
gregg williams leaves saints, joins rams as DC. pushed or jumped?
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 16 January 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
there were rumors from a few weeks ago saying he was gonna follow fisher wherever
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Monday, 16 January 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
colts keeping caldwell. also: http://www.theonion.com/articles/bucs-to-talk-with-marty-schottenheimer-about-how-l,27031/
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 16 January 2012 23:37 (twelve years ago) link
fuck are the colts doing
― horseshoe, Monday, 16 January 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
judging by the state of the roster, irsay made the right decision saying 'bye to the polians first and foremost. i'm 99% sure caldwell is no good but i guess the colts figured they would give him a chance to coach a team with players on it. one less team to worry about in the afc next year imo.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 16 January 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
really wonder if this is a prelude to bringing peyton back
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
cuz otherwise it makes zero sense
unless for some reason they just feel like there will be better HC candidates available after next season
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 00:25 (twelve years ago) link
wow so weird
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 00:52 (twelve years ago) link
I think they wisely realize that they will not be any good next year either, so give Peyton a victory lap with his coach before they cut the cord completely.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:01 (twelve years ago) link
lol if peyton is actually that invested in keeping caldwell around they should fire one and trade the other
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:03 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i didn't realize caldwell was "peyton's coach"?
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:04 (twelve years ago) link
Not sure they can trade him until he demonstrates that he can play. His contract is enormous.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:04 (twelve years ago) link
Caldwell is the closest thing to continuity that Peyton has now that Polian, Moore, and Dungy are all gone.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:05 (twelve years ago) link
but there is something they can do this very second, and that is fire jim caldwell
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:05 (twelve years ago) link
i think it's less that caldwell is peyton's coach and more that if caldwell is there peyton is the coach
i think it would be very hard to bring someone from the outside into "peyton's colts" -- the entire offense is basically "peyton walks to the line of scrimmage and decides what everyone is going to do"
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i still don't totally get that--it would be so hard to find someone who could coach up the defense and had the ability to speak while the game was taking place?
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 02:49 (twelve years ago) link
so i guess caldwell has just been fired? colts must have been reading this thread
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
what in the world is going on over there.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
they prob intended to get rid of him all along and there were just erroneous reports out there?
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
the problem is exacerbated by ppl posting on this thread with unverified shit that they saw on twitter
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
xp i know i just enjoy imagining that the entire colts org. is in total chaos rn
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
yeah the idea of Caldwell not getting fired would have blown my mind too
― frogbs, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
the more bizarre thing is how irsay seems to be insistent on releasing peyton instead of trading him if they do indeed decide to get rid of him
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
Manning's contract is front-loaded fwiw: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/31/sports/football/manning-agrees-to-90-million-contract-with-colts.html
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
Jay Glazer of FOX Sports reports that former Rams head coach Steve Spagnuolo interviewed for the Colts defensive coordinator position, and Caldwell was one of the people Spagnuolo interviewed with, along with other team officials.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
mike nolan joins atlanta as DC, his fourth team in four years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgGKSjiw0HQ
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
Umm, these emails:
http://deadspin.com/5855433/am-i-sick-are-we-all-sick-overwrought-things-the-media-wrote-to-auburns-pr-guy-during-cam-newtons-wild-2010-season
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link