yea Ben deserves the credit he's gotten, I mean in his rookie year he was more a 'don't fuck up' quarterback, but he's proven himself capable of making big throws when the run game dissolves.
some might overrate him but I think he's in the top ten of current crop easily.
― show me your ticks (San Te), Monday, 24 January 2011 23:59 (fifteen years ago)
hell tho if we took dropped INTs into consideration almost every QB would be in the upper teens at a minimum
― show me your ticks (San Te), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:00 (fifteen years ago)
that would be a great stat to follow. i would want to check brady during his no-int run, and in particular sanchez, all season. really hoping next season is the one where the wheel turns and all of those throws right at dbs turn into a 50int season.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:04 (fifteen years ago)
i have a feeling Brady would still be pretty low even with that, dude is just really smart with his throws.
Eli Manning might hit "Vinnie's First Year as a Buccaneer" levels tho
― show me your ticks (San Te), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:06 (fifteen years ago)
in fact sometimes when I see Eli play lately I almost wonder if he's playing as if one SB win is enough for him, and he's content to ride out the rest of his career on autopilot.
― show me your ticks (San Te), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:07 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, I wonder if I'm just imagining things when I think that db's are dropping more easy ints than ever before
― brownie, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:08 (fifteen years ago)
i would def take ben raeps over eli or romo. of, say, 3y+ players, better than him: rivers, brees, rodg, tommy, big P.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:09 (fifteen years ago)
"Almost Ints" = new stat to make underachieving DBs feel better
― show me your ticks (San Te), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:10 (fifteen years ago)
(course they already have Passes Defensed but that includes balls batted down and shit too)
is matt schaub a good qb? is there any way to know?
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:11 (fifteen years ago)
i saw him play maybe one game this year.
― show me your ticks (San Te), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:12 (fifteen years ago)
i don't want to get into cutler-face territory, but eli has never looked like he enjoys what he does. i dunno. i was pissed at him (or mainly at his dad) for the whole i-won't-play-in-SD thing, but he just looks really unhappy and now i kind of feel bad for him
which is absurd of me
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:13 (fifteen years ago)
wouldn't be surprised. usually when you see the QB 'turn a corner' like he was starting to do that SB season and the year after, the QB maintains that level of continuity and builds on it, unless circumstances like moving to a team with a diff. offense or a severe injury impaired that.
but it seems like he's been just as maddeningly inconsistent ever since the brief moment of glory he had. I wonder if his head's always in the game, because his mechanics are fine, but he still does dumb shit.
― show me your ticks (San Te), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:15 (fifteen years ago)
eli will retire as soon as he feels like he can get away with it. he will buy a little ranch and it will just be take-out and coors light forever until he leaves this mortal plain.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:16 (fifteen years ago)
and double stuffed oreos too! don't forget stuffy!
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:17 (fifteen years ago)
ben is the 4th or 5th best qb in the league.
it has taken me a long time to admit this.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:17 (fifteen years ago)
there's something in the manning dna that exudes eternal "just found out my cow got run over"
― omar little, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:18 (fifteen years ago)
so um...assuming Rodgers and company beat the Steelers, what a reversal of (deserved) fortune for Favre, to go from almost getting to an SB a year earlier and dominating your old team, to now watching your former team get there without you and anoint at new hero at QB that is nowhere near as reprehensible as you....oh and you sexted some chick.
good. fuck him.
― show me your ticks (San Te), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:18 (fifteen years ago)
― omar little, Monday, January 24, 2011 7:18 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark
omfg lol
― show me your ticks (San Te), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:19 (fifteen years ago)
cad: who of rivers, brees, rodg, tommy, big P is worse than him tho?
imo, you have peyton, the other 4 there are p much of a muchness just beneath him, raeps is just out of that group, then you have a handfull of 3.5 star dudes.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:20 (fifteen years ago)
brady, peyton, rodgers
then either ben or brees
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:22 (fifteen years ago)
Eli Manning throws a bunch of picks, but I bet he got a half dozen that bounced off one of his receivers to the defense. The Giants passing attack went into the crapper once Steve Smith got hurt and the NY backs are all horrible, especially Jacobs in the passing game.
Eli definitely has a bit of Charlie Brown in him when he is walking off the field.
Thing is I guess Cutler should be more like Rivers or Peyty and just walking off the field screaming at his own team after throwing a pick six.
Big Ben reminds me of Steve McNair, who was another guy who could throw a pretty pass with a big ass lineman hanging off him. I get he is good, but 'he is the best player on the field'...I don't know about that one.
The local Lexington sports talk actually was talking football today and this lunatic said that the Jets should try to trade for Carson Palmer, as Mark Sanchez is not going to get it done. Oy vey. That is some sub-level BS there.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:22 (fifteen years ago)
i am really starting to think ben is underrated because the way he does things is v. unorthodox.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:23 (fifteen years ago)
john "fart" clayton did a ranking of the starting QBs recently:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=5972554
― omar little, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:23 (fifteen years ago)
christ so sorry that your second year starting QB didn't win you a title jet fans
― show me your ticks (San Te), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:24 (fifteen years ago)
if the steelers win (a big if, obvs) i think it might be hard to put ben below anyone but tommy and big p
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:24 (fifteen years ago)
xpost I mean that makes him no better than EVERY OTHER JET QB SINCE 1969
i would take ben over pretty much any qb except for manning, brady, and rodgers tbh. just a hair over brees and rivers at this point.
― omar little, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:25 (fifteen years ago)
if Steelers win, they're the new dynasty (if you believe in counting dynasties in which there are no repeat championships)
― show me your ticks (San Te), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:25 (fifteen years ago)
Of course, I think this guy is on the local Lexington sports talk because he knows horse racing...which gets talked much, much more on local sports talk than probably anyplace else this side of Dubai.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:25 (fifteen years ago)
I think in today's 'win now' climate people like Elway/Bradshaw/Fouts would never make it because they weren't instantly amazing, and most took 4 years to excel.
hell don't forget Brees was supposed to be a 'bust'
― show me your ticks (San Te), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:26 (fifteen years ago)
that said fuck Henne he sucks
we need to go back to omar's suggestion of moving the super bowl imo
probably the best solution is soldier field, unless we can mark out a gridiron on the ice of some great lake
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:28 (fifteen years ago)
i remember seeing a purdue game with brees and was like wau
of course i also thought ryan leaf would be better than peyton
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:29 (fifteen years ago)
just play the super bowl in a dead cornfield imo
― omar little, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:29 (fifteen years ago)
make sure it's not one of ben's body dump sites though :/
― omar little, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:30 (fifteen years ago)
there should be an uphill and downhill maybe
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:30 (fifteen years ago)
kinda like that weird centerfield in minute maid park
― omar little, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:31 (fifteen years ago)
maybe a deep hole loosely covered with grass and just keep clay matthews unfed for a week and stash him down there in the dark
― omar little, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:32 (fifteen years ago)
This article is fun to read in retrospect:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3276178
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:35 (fifteen years ago)
they should play the superbowl on that Minnesota field where the Bears & Vikings played.
I mean, it's the Packers & the Steelers! Domes are for babies.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:40 (fifteen years ago)
Heir apparent to the throne Aaron Rodgers will be a functional quarterback. He has decent command in the huddle. He is reasonably accurate although he won't be able to stretch the field as efficiently as Favre. Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones and Koren Robinson are a solid receiving corps that gives Rodgers the chance to be a 60 percent thrower.
― omar little, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:41 (fifteen years ago)
don't forget cute
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:42 (fifteen years ago)
clayton is such a dickhead.
folks itt underrating felipe rivers imo.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:48 (fifteen years ago)
looool @ john "fart" clayton
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:50 (fifteen years ago)
fuc felipe rivers imo
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:52 (fifteen years ago)
eyeface
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:53 (fifteen years ago)
"Did somebody say my name??"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/PR.jpg
― omar little, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:55 (fifteen years ago)
(hides)
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:57 (fifteen years ago)
I ONLY SAID IT ONE TIME
YOU HAVE TO SAY IT THREE TIMES LIKE THE CANDYMAN
NO FAIR