LOSERS ASSEMBLE IN SMALL GROUPS AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THE COACHES AND OTHER PLAYERS - WEEK TEN 2009

it's like they got totally spooked by the blitz on third down.

― house of flying jaggers (J0rdan S.), Monday, November 16, 2009 2:35 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that's exactly how it seemed, which was so weird because they had looked indestructible offensively earlier. i was totally dismayed during the first half watching all those brady long bombs to moss.

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also HOLY CRAP GUYS.

1) it was a bad call not because percentages blabbity blah blah blah but based on how the pats were playing at that point in time (not well) versus the fact that the colts were running their "every other possession" offense in which they score in 30 seconds one possession, and then hurtle the ball straight at the defense in the next. so it's putting a lot of stock in the concept that the pats offense could get the first down after the series of missteps and mistakes that immediately proceeded the call.
2) yes, everyone is right that regardless of the decision, the colts were going to win that game so who even cares, in many ways this was a zen koan.
3) anyone who is all like WORST DECISION EVER is a fucking retard who apparently is unfamiliar with norv turner, brad childress, andy reid, eric mangini, etc. i mean it was just your run-of-the-mill questionable call here where you are like, "yeah well i guess the dude figured either way the colts would score so might as well try to keep the ball" where you understand it but are like "why so negative on your d lil bro, the plays leading up to this did not indicate that your o could accomplish this thing". as opposed to seriously literally having no idea what a person could've possibly been thinking at the time they chose to do that thing.

i don't even understand why this is an argument.

it was also a bad call b/c indy needed to go all the way down and score a td, not just get to the 30 and kick a field goal.

when the indy offense is working they score tds not fgs. is anyone going to tell me that the indy offense wasn't working at that point in the game. also,

yes, everyone is right that regardless of the decision, the colts were going to win that game so who even cares, in many ways this was a zen koan.

iirc if the pats gain 2 yds the colts lose the game, so yeah.

spooked by the blitz is a good description imo.

I wonder if a day will ever go by where the schef doesn't rip on my Chargers. :(

i am simply appalled that no one in the media seems to be talking about: ty warren, jarvis green, sammy morris, fred taylor, tully banta-cain.

signing LJ is such a bengals move - they spend no money on scouting, so they base their personnel decisions off name recognition (their draft this year was a great example of their player-personnel-on-a-budget strategy, andre smith, michael johnson, rey maualuga - they just love to collect big names who fell) - i wouldn't call LJ worthless exactly (except as a human being), but anyone with eyes can see that he's pretty much a used up cumrag

xpost re: why they're not talking about all the injuries for the pats - i don't know. i haven't read too much other than mike reiss who is a really good reporter. besides him i wonder how people get into sportswriting and don't seem to offer much insight, or who are fans of the game for a loooooong long time, and don't try to at least think about all the factors that might go into whatever major decision a coach makes

(the bengals signed larry johnson btw)

btw prev post is not meant in ANY way to refer to anyone on ilnfl, <3<3<3 everyone here, i mean when i read yr average poster on sports blog or boston globe or something

who are also never funny & really i wonder why they even watch football

yeah daria i'm waiting for reiss to do the defensive personnel breakdown because i really think the pats played the whole game in a 2-4-5 mostly rotating their #1, #4, and #5 linemen which is like gee u think that may have been important?

btw this is a VERY otm comment from the football outsiders audibles: "I'm fine with going for it on fourth down, but if you're going to do that, the third-down call MUST be a running play."

merril hoge says, "bill belicheck otm"

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4659408&categoryid=2459789

is it that maroney is really bad at being a rb or the pats o line is bad at run blocking? didn't look like dude had much running room at all

I wonder if a day will ever go by where the schef doesn't rip on my Chargers. :(

if it's any consolation for the next 5 hours the knives will be out for mangini

Yikes, Drew Brees's mom. :(

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/16/death-of-drew-brees-mother-ruled-a-suicide/

oh god....

mangini makes norv turner look like a combination of belicheck and walsh

watched some vince young highlights - he played pretty well yesterday it seems like - looks confident in the pocket, didn't force anything, scrambled judiciously - his TD pass was on third & 10 with the bills brining the house - his INT wasn't a terrible read/pass, just kinda put too much air under the ball - the titans had two huge plays out of the option w/ vince pitching it to chris johnson - i still wouldn't be shocked if they drafted a qb, maybe in the 3rd/4th round, but they play well with him & his mobility lets them do some things and also allows him to be more careful with the ball which def fits their philosophy

those blood red cards jerseys were BUTT imo but beanie was an animal yesterday - dude really reminds me of peterson, big and strong and fast, makes good, sharp cuts, has a great burst (peep his 4th down td run) and he runs violent as FUCK when he gets going. he was bouncing off dudes and throwing corners around yesterday. he's gonna be really, really good for them if he can catch passes

for some reason it just hit me as to how insanely retarded it was for the raiders to take sebastian janikowski in the first round - totally underrated in the senile davis wtf years - (btw darrius heyward-bey is comically bad) - they wanted a speed receiver but didn't take maclin or percy - i know this goes without saying but *_*

And yet Seabass has been one of their best and most consistent players.

now obv heyward-bey is a bit of a product of his team & QB (he is really bad at catching but still) but this WR class looks positively amazing

7: heyward-bey - ~_~
10: crabtree - jury is out but should be v solid
19: maclin - budding star at best complimentary game breaker at worst
22: harvin - star, will make pro bowl as a returner, could get there as a WR if the vikes can find a good QB after favre
29: hakeem nicks - solid contributor, could be a solid #2, at the very worst a good interchangeable 2/3 w manningham
30: kenny britt - already making plays, probably the first WR in a while that the titans have that can legit stretch the field
36: brian robiske - okay not sure about this guy, he was good in college tho
50: massaquoi - the only bright spot on the browns offense this year?

louis murphy & brian hartline are also v solid 4th round picks, johnny knox is decent for the 5th round

good post--that is going to be an excellent group.

btw cris carter has been killin it tonight on the countdown--new favorite analyst iirc

Colts also got Austin Collie in the 4th round and has already caught more passes in his rookie season than Reggie Wayne.

truth

zomg they're going to show "weekend at Bernies" in a couple minutes on the local pregame show (Fox 8 if you can get it). they're going to discuss his "slurred speech" according to the teaser. basically a local sports guy spends a weeked with Kosar.

damn, that's a pretty unfortunate choice of wordplay

Gruden and ESPN extend contract! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

why xactly was the titans owner flippin everyone off? not that it really matters..

cause he's old and crazy? i guess he went into the locker room and they gave him a game ball and he started to dance.

just saw it- his mansion is garbage strewn and he's had a dozen concussions and lost most of his teeth and had a broken jaw or two. nothing earth shattering.

i still can't believe there's one team with a worse offense than the Browns.

brownie u talkin bout kosar? did you see the dan lebatard article about him?

damn, that's a pretty unfortunate choice of wordplay

yeah, no kidding. but Kosar is a gamer.

<3 him forever

lol damn no fun league - this is a good quote on it:

"I don't know if he did it, but I condone fun things," Finnegan said, according to The Tennessean. "If he was having fun doing it, then by all means, do what you do."

so this walk out is actually happening?

yes I saw it Jordan! that's why I said it was nothing "earth shattering" but still sad all the same

and that is the man clevelanders want for GM, right ?

eh this boycott (if that's what you mean) isn't anything big I'm guessing

kinda, crunch, but I think Holmgren is the way to go

my dad was really broken up about that article - i think he spent his whole sunday trying to figure out why a grown man would try and cut a loaf of bread with a saw - he was like all those smh.gifs combined into one smh.gif

I do think Kosar still has a good football mind and can help the browns.

he's raising four kids by himself btw

hopefully he has help to cut bread for them

he got rid of his help! that's why his place is a mess

Hahaha one of the streams of this is apparently Australia/New Zealand ESPN. I did not even know such a thing existed until there was an ad for SportsCenter delivered by a guy who kind of sounded like Murray from Flight of the Conchords.

And yet Seabass has been one of their best and most consistent players.

― windy = white, carl = black (polyphonic), Monday, November 16, 2009 7:52 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

for some reason this past week i was pondering who the all-decade kicker should be, and i'd say janikowski has a pretty good case for the best kicker 2000-2009. played the whole decade, great kickoffs in a windy environment (though I'm sure winters in oakland are pretty mild) - olindo mare has a better touchback percentage (24.56 to janikowski's 20.76), but he also played the bulk of his career in miami. outside of those two you have a lot of iffy candidates... bironas has been sensational but only been playing like 4 or 5 years, same deal with scobee & gostkowski, akers cooled down in the second half of the decade, rackers looks alright on paper but benefits from some of the best kicking conditions in the league (he was crap in cincinatti), jason hanson's career numbers are pretty amazing but you have to adjust for the fact that he's played 18 seasons in a dome plus kickoffs before 1999 were from the 35 yard line... etc

vinatieri?