itt fans of non-playoff teams chatter about the off season (2013)

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All sad sacks congregate here to chew the fat about their team's exciting upcoming offseason. I expect very little from this thread before the end of June. In April the reality is still too painful.

The blazers need a center and their entire bench was pathetic this year. The only direction left to go is up.

Aimless, Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:58 (four years ago) Permalink

Do we have to be fans of the teams

@JPosnanski
Revised [Dan Gilbert]: "I personally guarantee you that the Cleveland Cavaliers will fire a coach before the self-titled king gets his coach fired."

polyphonic, Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:09 (four years ago) Permalink

How do I post in comic sans

polyphonic, Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:09 (four years ago) Permalink

lmao the cavs are bringing mike brown back

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 19:33 (four years ago) Permalink

lmfao

Z S up HOOS down (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 19:35 (four years ago) Permalink

Mike Brown had other offers but major factor in decision came down to his family wanting to live in Cleveland.
3:43pm - 23 Apr 13

brony james (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 19:50 (four years ago) Permalink

...

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 19:53 (four years ago) Permalink

omg

moullet, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 20:01 (four years ago) Permalink

how do i post in comics sans

moullet, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 20:01 (four years ago) Permalink

so did lebron give them a courtesy call to let them know he wasn't coming back in 2014 or something

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 20:02 (four years ago) Permalink

didnt expect the dunlap fire... bobcats tho

moullet, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 20:05 (four years ago) Permalink

Jordan has no clue what he's doing

Z S up HOOS down (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 20:09 (four years ago) Permalink

what the fuck are the bobcats even doing

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 April 2013 14:41 (four years ago) Permalink

how do you fire a coach that triples the team's win total in his first season

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 April 2013 14:41 (four years ago) Permalink

seems like he was rubbing a lot of ppl the wrong way but you can't say that team wasn't playing harder and better under him.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 14:44 (four years ago) Permalink

Jordan has no clue what he's doing

Superstar athletes have a badly skewed perspective on winning.

Aimless, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:50 (four years ago) Permalink

well it sounds like the bobcats players and middle management basically requested that jordan can the guy so i guess i don't know.

i mean, rich cho was highly regarded at one point, right?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:52 (four years ago) Permalink

Dunlap was a last minute hire last year. It's not like he was their guy. They have a more attractive roster now, and so they're going to try to get the sort of name guy they were trying to get last year. It's nice that Dunlap tripled their win total but it's not hard to do better than the legendarily bad 2011-12 team. They still had the second-worst record in the NBA. Now they have another high lottery guy to add to the mix and some cap space. If they can get a name coach then they might have a better chance of attracting a significant free agent or two.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:00 (four years ago) Permalink

Dunlap struck me as a Doug Collins type guy who is great at teaching fundamentals but probably not a good long term option.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:01 (four years ago) Permalink

@BuzzFeedJack 2m

Oh my god. Dan Gilbert and Chris Grant are jokingly playing "who really fired Mike Brown" at this press conference. This is so surreal.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 19:01 (four years ago) Permalink

you go from paul silas -> no name mike dunlap -> ???

乒乓, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 19:31 (four years ago) Permalink

how do i post in comics sans

― moullet, Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:01 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

very important q btw

乒乓, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 19:31 (four years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/5kkTiaX.jpg

乒乓, Sunday, 28 April 2013 13:19 (four years ago) Permalink

whoa nice!

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 April 2013 15:45 (four years ago) Permalink

Though Shaquille O'Neal is a Hall of Famer, I never shirked from the challenge of trying to frustrate the heck out of him. (Note to Shaq: My flopping has nothing to do with being gay.)

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 April 2013 15:46 (four years ago) Permalink

such a great piece

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Monday, 29 April 2013 15:57 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah, really good

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 April 2013 15:58 (four years ago) Permalink

the "when i came out (for the first time)" joke was hilarious

J0rdan S., Monday, 29 April 2013 16:20 (four years ago) Permalink

secretly wearing 98 to honor matthew shepard is crazy powerful

J0rdan S., Monday, 29 April 2013 16:20 (four years ago) Permalink

Metta on Collins:

"Whether it's a free country or not, you should be free to act as you want to do as long as it's not violent. No matter what it is. I came here in a Cookie Monster shirt because I wanted to, and I was going to wear the pants. But I thought you guys were going to judge me. I was going to wear the hat too. But I thought you guys would judge me. I didn't want Mitch (Kupchak) to judge me. So that's why I didn't wear the hats and the pants. But I should've wore it. You should be free to do and act how you want to act."

polyphonic, Monday, 29 April 2013 18:53 (four years ago) Permalink

I am beside myself over here

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Monday, 29 April 2013 18:54 (four years ago) Permalink

nice! much props

乒乓, Monday, 29 April 2013 18:56 (four years ago) Permalink

lol @ metta

'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Monday, 29 April 2013 19:24 (four years ago) Permalink

^^

am0n, Monday, 29 April 2013 19:26 (four years ago) Permalink

Martell Webster (Washington Wizards): @jasoncillins34 you have made sports what it should be and that’s “OPEN” proud of you for being you. That’s jump shot is still weak lol.

polyphonic, Monday, 29 April 2013 19:31 (four years ago) Permalink

i could've told you that jason collins sucked dick. hahaha, rack em!!!

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 29 April 2013 19:42 (four years ago) Permalink

apparently broussard said something idiotic on TV

'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Monday, 29 April 2013 20:02 (four years ago) Permalink

is that any different from what he usually does

乒乓, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:06 (four years ago) Permalink

he did indeed.

“If you’re openly living in unrepentant sin, whatever it may be, not just homosexuality, (but) adultery, fornication, premarital sex between heterosexuals … I believe that’s walking in open rebellion to God,” Broussard said on a special edition of ESPN’s “Outside the Lines.”

am0n, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:07 (four years ago) Permalink

broussard is involved in some christian thing, he's always posting about it on twitter.

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:09 (four years ago) Permalink

Premarital sex is the best, what's wrong with this dude

polyphonic, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:11 (four years ago) Permalink

im sure his twitter feed will get "fascinating" real quick

am0n, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:12 (four years ago) Permalink

if premarital sex is wrong i don't want to be right

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:13 (four years ago) Permalink

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17rqjk8x93iamjpg/k-bigpic.jpg

am0n, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:20 (four years ago) Permalink

multiple sources tell broussard being gay is wrong.

moullet, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:22 (four years ago) Permalink

Mike Wallace ‏@Wallace17_daKid 1m
Never said anything was right or wrong I just said I don't understand!! Deeply sorry for anyone that I offended

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 29 April 2013 20:29 (four years ago) Permalink

SMH (shakin' my head)

am0n, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:43 (four years ago) Permalink

this guy might be the whammy though

http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/15/12/46/3451317/3/628x471.jpg

joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Saturday, 15 June 2013 13:42 (four years ago) Permalink

Top two winningest NBA coaches, Lenny Wilkins and Don Nelson, both were NBA players.

Aimless, Saturday, 15 June 2013 17:34 (four years ago) Permalink

u guys are better than this c'mon

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 15 June 2013 19:01 (four years ago) Permalink

no we aren't

battle hyrr of the shepublic (m bison), Saturday, 15 June 2013 19:33 (four years ago) Permalink

serious question from someone with limited knowledge of nba history: has anyone been given a coaching job like kidd has and been successful? (define success however you want.)

fit and working again, Saturday, 15 June 2013 19:53 (four years ago) Permalink

do coaches usually walk into the job like that? no time spent coaching d-league teams or something like that?

fit and working again, Saturday, 15 June 2013 19:57 (four years ago) Permalink

can somebody tell me wth is going on with this doc rivers traded to the celtics bullshit

乒乓, Saturday, 15 June 2013 20:12 (four years ago) Permalink

xp Avery Johnson retired in like 2004 and was head coach within a year iirc. Was named Coach Of the Year in 2006.

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 15 June 2013 20:17 (four years ago) Permalink

ok, though i see he was assistant for a while at least.

fit and working again, Saturday, 15 June 2013 20:31 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah a few months

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 15 June 2013 20:33 (four years ago) Permalink

vdn jumped straight to head coach and i think has actually been mostly ok, certainly not a disaster, though he probably could have used a couple of years as an ass't under someone

ilh favorite hand down man down went straight from broadcaster to warriors head coach and has remarkably been pretty good!

i do think kidd will actually be fine because the other straight-to-coach examples are similar- longtime veteran point guards mostly. he also has experience playing for some very good coaches which i think is really a thing, and he's going to bring lawrence frank with him, who was cursed with that garbage pistons roster the last few years but i think is very good

joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Saturday, 15 June 2013 21:47 (four years ago) Permalink

can somebody tell me wth is going on with this doc rivers traded to the celtics bullshit

― 乒乓, Saturday, June 15, 2013 4:12 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

no clue really but it has broussard all over it which means it's not actually happening

though they are definitely talking abt kg & pierce b/c they (clips) are desperately trying to impress cp3 before july 1st, so i wouldn't be surprised if they were just like "hey we need a coach too, if you trade us those guys doc is just gonna bail and do tv, can we just take him too?"

if i were danny and it were really happening i would rake the clips over the coals for it, doc is his best asset at this point

joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Saturday, 15 June 2013 21:49 (four years ago) Permalink

xp yeah not knocking kidd at all, just that it seems weird to me that someone with zero formal experience gets employed in a position like that, particularly at a team with high expectations.

fit and working again, Saturday, 15 June 2013 22:01 (four years ago) Permalink

right, totally. as far as i can tell don nelson did it too- went straight to coach AND gm of the bucks! i think the pendulum is swinging more towards it lately b/c statistically brand new guys do about as well or better than retreads (i think there was a good zach lowe article on this recently), and someone along the way realized you can flip the role of asst coaches and use veterans there to shore up a new head coach versus using them as a training ground

i think we might have just also hit a saturation point by around 2010 where the retreads were fully retreaded and not going to go around again, a few possible guys coming up through the ass't ranks flunked out (iavaroni et al) and we're down to just a handful of proven veteran name head guys who are gonna cost a LOT to get in the seat (van gundys, phil), so there wasn't much downside to trying out some new blood

joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Saturday, 15 June 2013 22:43 (four years ago) Permalink

i would bet in kidd's situation his former coaches might also have chipped in and said basically what the heck is he gonna learn as an ass't that he doesn't know as a 40 year old veteran already

joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Saturday, 15 June 2013 22:43 (four years ago) Permalink

if they wanna try out new blood they should try importing some eurocoaches

i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 16 June 2013 15:47 (four years ago) Permalink

Thinking that former players don't have an instant leg up coaching-wise is a really strange POV. Would love to see some aggregate winning% stats of former NBA players vs. non. Obviously being a former player isn't a definite prereq or anything (of the final four teams this year, three -- Spo, Vogel and Pop -- never played NBA), but former players have a massive bank of info to draw from that non-players can't really have access to.

Really looking forward to Kidd's first year-- feel like it could be really intriguing watching him develop Deron Williams, although outside of him and Lopez that Nets roster isn't much fun. Have absolutely no idea what to expect from Kidd coaching. BUT PLEASE JKIDD PLEASE PLAYER/COACH A FEW GAMES PLEEEEEEEASE. Kidd filling that spot just means one less team that'll snatch up Brian Shaw; amazing the chips haven't fallen his way for past few offseasons. Not as surprised by Ewing continually getting passed over, though.

And holy fuck these weird Celtics/Clips trades. When was the last time a coach was used as tradebait?

IM ME, I DO ME, AND I CHILL (CompuPost), Sunday, 16 June 2013 17:26 (four years ago) Permalink

i don't really even understand the argument about coaches--spo played pro ball in germany, pop played for the air force and tried out for the '72 olympic team, vogel played jv at kentucky. basically all coaches are "former players," i'm not so sure it's important what level they played at.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 16 June 2013 19:43 (four years ago) Permalink

my question on this was based on my surprise at kidd's appointment. i figured the head coach of an nba team would be expected to have spent several years being an assistant or coaching lower league and/or foreign teams, regardless of playing experience. it seems this is the case for most coaches, but there have been plenty of exceptions.

fit and working again, Sunday, 16 June 2013 20:08 (four years ago) Permalink

i don't really even understand the argument about coaches--spo played pro ball in germany, pop played for the air force and tried out for the '72 olympic team, vogel played jv at kentucky. basically all coaches are "former players," i'm not so sure it's important what level they played at.

― call all destroyer, Sunday, June 16, 2013 3:43 PM (4 hours ago)

yeah. i think these days i'd rather have a dude who's been thinking about the game longer than he's been playing it

look at my watch/I'm in the club and everyone's looking at me/fuck th (k3vin k.), Monday, 17 June 2013 00:42 (four years ago) Permalink

lol what does that even mean

call all destroyer, Monday, 17 June 2013 00:46 (four years ago) Permalink

gonna read that as a racial dogwhistle

battle hyrr of the shepublic (m bison), Monday, 17 June 2013 01:30 (four years ago) Permalink

The higher you ascend in terms of competition, the less likely it is you can get by without thinking about the game. A lot. NBA point guards ALL think about the game. A lot. No exceptions.

Aimless, Monday, 17 June 2013 04:46 (four years ago) Permalink

plz stop responding to this nonsense "viewpoint" of kev's

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 17 June 2013 05:19 (four years ago) Permalink

gonna read that as a racial dogwhistle

― battle hyrr of the shepublic (m bison), Sunday, June 16, 2013 9:30 PM (Yesterday)

ha i'm aware that it can be read that way but i've been posting here for long enough that i'm not worried about that

i am half-trolling tbf (but only half)

look at my watch/I'm in the club and everyone's looking at me/fuck th (k3vin k.), Monday, 17 June 2013 06:20 (four years ago) Permalink

moving bookmark

乒乓, Monday, 17 June 2013 11:12 (four years ago) Permalink

The Clippers were just messing with Danny.

Aimless, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:26 (four years ago) Permalink

the whole idea of trading a coach is completely bonkers

Clay, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 21:07 (four years ago) Permalink

like this would only ever occur to two drunk people. no sober pair of gm's would have this idea.

Clay, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 21:09 (four years ago) Permalink

well they explain why tbf

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 21:19 (four years ago) Permalink

it is true that no one not on a basketball court should be wearing a basketball jersey, but the addition of sleeves isn't going to help things all that much.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 21:20 (four years ago) Permalink

let me know when a team starts wearing sports tuxedos

keyser saucy vagina (DJP), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 21:22 (four years ago) Permalink

it's also like, i don't think anybody who owns a basketball jersey was ever prevented from wearing one because they wanted to wear short sleeves instead... they just put on a white tee underneath the jersey

乒乓, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 21:40 (four years ago) Permalink

otm I'm not sporting a tight ass cap-sleeved game jersey

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 22:07 (four years ago) Permalink

LOL see these just flat out cannot look good on normal looking folk
http://blogimages.thescore.com/tbj/files/2013/02/klay-trey-jerseys.jpg

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 22:21 (four years ago) Permalink

The guy on the right looks 100x less weird than Klay does tbh

polyphonic, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 22:31 (four years ago) Permalink

steph curry did not handle his playoff exit well huh

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 22:35 (four years ago) Permalink

Yeah but c'mon no one in their right mind is wearing that mess out in the public xp
lol granny

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 23:19 (four years ago) Permalink

Sleeves mean more fabric for defenders to grab.

Aimless, Thursday, 20 June 2013 00:40 (four years ago) Permalink

should do an exhibition shirts/skins game

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 20 June 2013 00:42 (four years ago) Permalink

well they explain why tbf

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:19 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

no they didn't btw it's just more space ready for when they sell ads on jerseys

z-time champion (agent hibachi), Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:43 (four years ago) Permalink

so the celtics trade rivers to the clips but the league isnt gonna let them move garnett too even in a separate deal figuring the teams will conspire to link the two

lag∞n, Monday, 24 June 2013 00:17 (four years ago) Permalink

yup

EZ Snappin, Monday, 24 June 2013 00:23 (four years ago) Permalink

baffling on all accounts

call all destroyer, Monday, 24 June 2013 00:24 (four years ago) Permalink

trading a coach is pretty gangster

lag∞n, Monday, 24 June 2013 04:03 (four years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

lol owned https://twitter.com/bballbreakdown/status/562429811193171968

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 01:59 (three years ago) Permalink

oops wrong one

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 02:39 (three years ago) Permalink


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