IF U WERE LEBRON WHAT WOULD U DO

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
bulls 11
cavs 6
heat 5
clippers 4
start my own league in space 3
knicks 3
olympiakos or other euroleague 2
nets 1
other (pls specify) 1
mavs 0
pistons 0


call all destroyer, Friday, 14 May 2010 04:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

man this is real tough tbh

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 May 2010 04:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

play football

retarded candle burning at both ends (dyao), Friday, 14 May 2010 04:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

fuck shoulda put that in

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 May 2010 04:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

Wish the warriors had cap space.

Clay, Friday, 14 May 2010 04:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Bron would avg like 65ppg on the dubs.

Clay, Friday, 14 May 2010 04:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

OKAY PROS/CONS OF ALL

cavs

pros: home team, don't want to be the most hated person in the state of ohio... don't want to find movers?

cons: weird juju there right now, consistently poor surrounding casts, management overreacts in poor ways, coach?

heat

pros: best city with an nba team, would get to play with wade, would prob bring best out in crowd, taxes

cons: would have to play with wade, fickle crowd, not much history

bulls

pros: the nyc of the midwest, derrick rose, franchise of michael jordan

cons: franchise of michael jordan, joakim noah

clippers

pros: blake griffin, LA

cons: everything else

nets

pros: brooklyn, jay-z, john wall, john calipari, youngish roster in general

cons: lil brother to the knicks?, no real history to speak of, bad uniforms

knicks:

pros: nyc, history

negative: horrible past 10 years, terrible roster, awful management, would be seen as a sell out hired assasin

mavs

pros: mark cuban pampers players, dirk

cons: texas, old ass roster, western conference

pistons

pros: i can't think of one

cons: living in detroit, awful roster, beat down fanbase

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 May 2010 04:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

imma try to break these down a bit over the next few days (xp didn't know sarge was doing same). first up chicago:

two championship players already there in rose and noah--both of whom complement u and don't fuck up your style. could do enough shuffling (afaict) to add one more major piece. good fans. probably get to pick yr coach.

vs.

isn't being in jordan's shadow a little too intense? unsettled mgmt situation--paxson may possibly be insane. another midwestern city.

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 May 2010 04:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

it's weird to answer this question bcuz personally i would never choose to live in cleveland, but obv i don't have the history there that lebron does -- tbh, i would go to the bulls -- that's a pretty decent young roster, it's a big city that's still in the midwest -- i don't think the MJ thing is really a horrible thing -- the lakers have figured out how to make room for jerry west, kobe, magic and kareem, after all -- i would never go to the knicks & as fun as the nets might sound on paper, it's still the nets

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 May 2010 04:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

cad you should keep going, my post obv isn't very fleshed out

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 May 2010 04:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm trying to think which team has the best young big man to help lebron out - nets?

retarded candle burning at both ends (dyao), Friday, 14 May 2010 04:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

think so

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 May 2010 04:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

"I'm trying to think which team has the best young big man to help lebron out - nets?"

The team that signs Bosh as well?

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 14 May 2010 05:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

I can't see Lebron and Wade on the same team.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 14 May 2010 05:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah like, i think it's prob fun for them for a few weeks on team usa and fun to joke about at parties, but you can't have to primary ballhandlers of that caliber on one team -- neither is wired to take a backseat like that

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 May 2010 05:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

it could barely work with something like kobe & shaq, dunno how it would work with two guys who effectively play the same position (the position being "the whole team")

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 May 2010 05:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

not okc

@KDthunderup would u want Lebron in okc?(honestly, nah I like who we have..I'm the leader of that teem)
about 1 hour ago via Echofon

moullet, Friday, 14 May 2010 05:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

Cap space doesn't matter if a team does a sign and trade.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Friday, 14 May 2010 05:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

first of all

pros: best city with an nba team

i mean... lol. just.... laughing out loud.

second of all

cons: lil brother to the knicks?, no real history to speak of, bad uniforms

i mean fuck the nets 4 lyfe after they betrayed my state but no history psshhh does the name keith van horn mean anything 2 u?? i thought so. lil brother to the knicks please. uniforms are ugly tho i agree with you.

max, Friday, 14 May 2010 14:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

if he joined the spurs he would win at min 3 straight titles I GAHRONTEE

heartbreakin' 2: electric boohoohoo ;_; (m bison), Friday, 14 May 2010 14:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

[x] quit nba and make an album w/ jay-z

am0n, Friday, 14 May 2010 15:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

^^^ cd be lebron

max, Friday, 14 May 2010 17:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

At least the Nets have been in the NBA Finals in recent history.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Friday, 14 May 2010 17:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

I thought we had all agreed to forget that had ever happened

retarded candle burning at both ends (dyao), Friday, 14 May 2010 17:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

Chicago.

Let Amare go ham like he was all you can eating it (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 14 May 2010 17:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

let's break down miami:

great city. paired with one of the other five best players in the league. potential room to add one more major piece (i have read that but i don't understand how it is possible). could lure riley out of the front office to coach. if not spolestra is far less of a chump than mike brown so that's not bad.

vs.

a wade/lebron pairing doesn't really make any sense--wade needs the ball and lebron would have to figure out how to play off him. who gets the ball in crunchtime? a truly dreadful supporting cast that makes those jokers on the cavs look like the bench of the o.g. dream team. do you really want to be coached by riley? isn't he old and weird? lukewarm fanbase.

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 May 2010 18:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

mike brown is fired.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Friday, 14 May 2010 18:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

potential room to add one more major piece (i have read that but i don't understand how it is possible).

i believe they would have to move beasley & their first round pick in order to do this (as well as james jones, but i think he has a team option, so maybe they can just decline it? i'm not totally sure on the details tho)

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 May 2010 18:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

they would definitely have to trade beasley, with james jones they have a team option for the next three years, so i'm not sure if they can decline it this year and essential void the contract or what the rules are there

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 May 2010 18:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

so you'd have three max guys and have to luck out big time on the entire rest of the team aka the 2008 celtics plan.

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 May 2010 18:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

udonis haslem is a pretty solid piece. the others???? q = the new eddie house?

retarded candle burning at both ends (dyao), Friday, 14 May 2010 18:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah their roster at that point would be

wade
bosh
lebron/stoudemire etc
mario chalmers
dequan cook

& that's it

profit???

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 May 2010 18:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

they literally would have no one else under contract so idk who they would try and sign

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 May 2010 18:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

i guess they would have a second round pick to add to that as well

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 May 2010 18:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

this situation reminds me jordan/bulls after the last elimination vs Detroit..

sad cuz i dont want lebron to repeat jordans trajectory =/

moullet, Friday, 14 May 2010 18:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

simmons says it's nyc, cleve, or chicago, depending on what lbj wants. intriguing column. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100514&sportCat=nba

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 May 2010 18:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think Chicago is the wise move, too. If not there, someplace where there is a nucleus of a team that he can be placed into. Gotta have a decent to good point guard who is (1) level-headed enough to run the offense and (2) talented enough to score 12 - 17 per game. Also gotta have a center or forward who plays defense and rebounds.

Add to that the big market considerations - LeBron wants to get PAID on an MJ level, and small market towns ain't gonna do it.

I'm thinking Chicago. New York would get him paid, and he may eke out a championship, but not any time soon. If Atlanta makes some smart moves and gets a good coach, they're always going to be in contention. Orlando, not going anywhere. Celtics are done in 1 - 3 years, but will still make the playoffs around Rondo/Davis/Perkins. So, there's no guarantee you're coming out of the East in the next 3 - 5. Out West? Dallas? Could work, actually, but what of Dirk? Phoenix would certainly be a hoot, but they don't have the cap room. Lakers out. Clippers - no way is he going to play for Donald Sterling. No way. Spurs? I hope not. That would be freaking deadly.

I don't know. I want to put more thought into this, but I'm at work for at least the next five hours.

Let Amare go ham like he was all you can eating it (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 14 May 2010 19:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah Chicago is his best option. As a Bulls fan, I wouldn't be upset if he came here but I wouldn't be thrilled about it either. It's always more fun to root for the underdog. I envisioned the Bulls becoming the well-rounded, scrappy team who sticks it to the one-dimensional star-driven teams of Kobe, Wade, Lebron, etc. With LeBron here, anything less than multiple titles is a failure. There's no joy, just relief. Plus there's the hollowness of importing an already-formed star. MJ started out as a Bull, and the Bulls were underdogs for quite awhile. It's a bit like if you and your boys are doing well in the rec league, you're getting better, you might eventually be the best team...and then someone brings in a ringer from out of town and you're unstoppable but it's not as fulfilling as if you did it on your own and beat the odds y'know?

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 14 May 2010 19:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

no, i don't know, because winning championships is rad no matter how it happens

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 May 2010 19:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

but if you want a team that maybe goes six games in the conference finals at some point be my guest, more for the rest of us

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 May 2010 19:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

you're a yankees fun aren't you

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 14 May 2010 19:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

hahaha no i'm not. let me be really real with you--when the celtics traded for ray and kg there was a little bit of that hand-wringing: "aw, we brought in ringers, wouldn't it have been more fun if we had gotten lol greg oden and built a winner out of him and like al jefferson and ryan gomes shooting baseline jumpers" and whoever else we had at the time. but it didn't take long for most reasonable people to appreciate and enjoy watching pro basketball played at a really, really high level night in and night out, and by the time the c's were embarassing the lakers in the nba championship this wasn't even a point you could make.

so like, i know what you're thinking. but you're wrong :)

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 May 2010 19:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh for sure, this is my thinking now, before The Ringer has ever donned a Bulls jersey. could def see it getting wiped away by the end of the 1st game of the new dynasty, let alone the 1st title.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 14 May 2010 19:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Lakers are not one dimensional at all, and certainly less so than the Miami Dwaynes and the Cleveland Mo Williamses.

Let Amare go ham like he was all you can eating it (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 14 May 2010 20:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

shh don't ruin my storyline

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 14 May 2010 20:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

We were totally fine with Pau joining the team a few years ago. Just sayin'.

Let Amare go ham like he was all you can eating it (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 14 May 2010 20:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

"I figured LeBron out, dude. I think you define a player by defining what is most important to them in one word.

"MJ -- Winning. Hands down, all he wanted to do was win. And that's over-used for a lot of athletes, but not him.

"Kobe -- Greatness. Yes he's going to win some, but only because he wants to be considered great and that will be a by-product at times. But you'd also see him shoot his team out of a game; jack 3s when he should press the issue and get to the paint. He didn't mind losing a few games if people came away saying 'Kobe is great; look what happens when he doesn't shoot.'"

"LeBron -- Amaze. I think he just really wants to amaze people. Which is why he spends 10 minutes before the game throwing underhand, left-hand half-court shots. Why he celebrates amazing dunks and blocks, but isn't working just as hard to win. I know the Cavs aren't great without him, but he's got PLENTY on that team to win rings with."

Is that totally fair? Probably not. But just for fun, let's extend Chris' game ...

Russell, Magic, Bird, Duncan, Walton, West and Havlicek: Winning.

Wilt: Numbers.

Oscar and Barry: Perfection.

Shaq: Fame.

Kareem and Elgin: Pride.

Moses: Rebounds.

Malone and Garnett: Work.

Barkley: Fun.

Cousy, Stockton, Isiah, Pippen and Nash: Team.

I think that's pretty otm. Question for me is, which one applies to Wade? Guess that's yet to be determined.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 14 May 2010 20:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

duh of course you were, it's the Lakers, it's LA.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 14 May 2010 20:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

Also: does anyone else find it kind of weird that Calipari is seen as this huge draw? He has coached one full NBA season and then gotten fired after starting the next one 3-15?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 17 May 2010 17:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think calipari is only a huge draw for lebron because they have a personal relationship

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 May 2010 17:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think it would almost be more beneficial for the cavs to semi-tank 2010 & get a high pick & try and sign a 2011 FA

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 May 2010 17:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

i love how shameless (and otm) espn is being re this whole thing

The conference finals are under way, but let's be honest: The biggest story in the NBA is LeBron James' upcoming free-agency tour. Nothing less than the future of the league is at stake. OK, that might be a bit extreme, but you can argue that a player of his stature has never been available at such a young age. With that in mind, Insider brings you LeBron Week, a five-part look at every aspect of James' decision.

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 May 2010 17:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

At least one of the conf finals series is gonna have to be fantastic for the focus to shift back to, y'know, dudes playing basketball.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Monday, 17 May 2010 17:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

i mean if you're a casual nba fan not in bos/orl/la/phx you probably find the lebron story more interesting

call all destroyer, Monday, 17 May 2010 17:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

hollinger's algorithm says that the players most suited for lebron are good shooting 4s i.e. bosh & nowitzki & to a lesser extent david lee, amare & boozer

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 May 2010 17:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

i find the lebron story way more interesting

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 May 2010 17:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm surprised how relatively unfucked the cavs are if Lebron walks - I mean paying 46m for a 30-win team is painful and all but I had the idea it was a lot worse, especially with the jamison deal?

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/cavaliers.jsp

Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 17 May 2010 17:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

the vast majority of teams have their books p clean past 2011 (lakers kind of an exception)

get me vlade'd (m bison), Monday, 17 May 2010 17:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

well, tbh they would be pretty fucked -- aside what lebron leaving would do to them in terms of economics and morale, they would have a bottom 5 pick in the draft this year, and probably a low lottery pick next year, and they'd have a bunch of cap room but they'd have to convince a free agent to come there and they have no pitch aside from "lebron used to play here!" which isn't really an equation imo for ascending anywhere near the heights of where they have been in the past 3-4 years -- not to mention that if lebron stays in the eastern conference, & bosh and wade team up then they're really gonna be behind the 8 ball

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 May 2010 17:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

Jordan if u were Lebron what would you do?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 17 May 2010 17:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh wait you have already said bulls! M bison what would u do? Go to SA for min money?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 17 May 2010 17:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

i would join the relief effort in haiti full time

get me vlade'd (m bison), Monday, 17 May 2010 17:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

tbrr tho go to chi with bosh and try to pry philjax out of LA

get me vlade'd (m bison), Monday, 17 May 2010 17:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

Does anyone have any links that shed light on what Bosh actually is looking for? Like, is he a chip-at-all-costs guy? Would he like being a #2 or #3 option? I feel I have no idea what he wants besides attention.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 17 May 2010 17:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

he just wants 2 b loved

get me vlade'd (m bison), Monday, 17 May 2010 17:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

and well-paid, but i don't think he's a gotta be #1 guy tbh

get me vlade'd (m bison), Monday, 17 May 2010 18:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think he wants to escape canada

call all destroyer, Monday, 17 May 2010 18:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think everyone assumes he's a miami lock? altho i guess a lebron sign & trade with chi would open the door for him going to the bulls? but more realistically the heat

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 May 2010 18:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

iirc the Cavs don't have any picks in this years draft

lebrons elbow (brownie), Monday, 17 May 2010 19:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

Important tweet:
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I wasn't buying it but did Delonte West really Smash LeBron's mom? Factual info only Please and Thanx.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 May 2010 22:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah, i heard he did. twice.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 17 May 2010 23:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

heh, that's pretty much exactly what I thought when I heard about O recommending chicago

forksclovetofu, Saturday, 29 May 2010 12:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 28 June 2010 23:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

i would insist on a sign-and-trade with the minnesota timberwolves.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 28 June 2010 23:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

I just wish he would confide in Dan Gilbert and say, "Look, don't tell anyone, but I'm signing with Chicago (or whoever) next year." That way, at least the Cavs could prepare for a LeBron-less future. As it is now, they're completely stuck in the dark and have no way to rebuild the team. Plus, there's the whole thing about how he's selfishly doing this all for his ego, and to be honest he's really pissing me off.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 02:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I don't think LeBron is coming off very well this summer.

Clay, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 02:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think he will get over it by taking a bath in ben franklins

paul wallowitz and chaimillionaire - get ya mind kashrut (m bison), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 02:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I don't think LeBron is coming off very well this summer.

better now than if he did a "tour" of the cities with teams wooing him.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 29 June 2010 03:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

see i don't see what's wrong with doing a tour of such cities -- it would be pretty pointless since he's been to all these places, but if anything i think it's more self-centered to be like "NO YOU COME TO ME"

incredible length (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 03:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 23:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

otm

ksmh (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 23:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

wait, which two of you would join the clippers if you were lebron?

i am worried about your well-being.

Clay, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 00:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

OH FIVE PEOPLE GOT IT RIGHT

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 June 2010 00:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

voted 4 miami, riles was the tie-breaker w chi

paul wallowitz and chaimillionaire - get ya mind kashrut (m bison), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 02:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

first of all

pros: best city with an nba team

i mean... lol. just.... laughing out loud.

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altered scones (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 08:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

funny thread

J0rdan S., Friday, 29 June 2012 21:31 (six years ago) Permalink

none of us knew how the heat would fit three max guys!

call all destroyer, Friday, 29 June 2012 21:49 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah their roster at that point would be

wade
bosh
lebron/stoudemire etc
mario chalmers
dequan cook

& that's it

profit???

― contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Friday, May 14, 2010 2:10 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

call all destroyer, Friday, 29 June 2012 21:49 (six years ago) Permalink

profit!!

J0rdan S., Friday, 29 June 2012 21:49 (six years ago) Permalink

none of us knew how the heat would fit three max guys!

― call all destroyer, Friday, June 29, 2012 5:49 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark

yeah i was legit stumped by the presence of james jones. i guess they bought him out? i don't even remember.

i guess the one thing we didn't know is that they all would end up giving up some money

J0rdan S., Friday, 29 June 2012 21:50 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah that seems like the key

call all destroyer, Friday, 29 June 2012 21:50 (six years ago) Permalink

six years pass...
one month passes...

Anyone watching The Shop on HBO?

not super groundbreaking or anything, but it's really engaging, Lebron is a cool guy. Mo Bamba and Victor Oladipo seem really nice, Ben Simmons seemed ok

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 14 October 2018 23:13 (one month ago) Permalink

the drake part was pretty good i thought

J0rdan S., Monday, 15 October 2018 02:19 (one month ago) Permalink

it's fun to hear lebron curse

J0rdan S., Monday, 15 October 2018 02:19 (one month ago) Permalink

Drake part was prob my least fav but obv the most noteworthy. I just like seeing the dudes shoot the breeze. First ep was more natural imo.

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Monday, 15 October 2018 03:10 (one month ago) Permalink


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