bill simmons IS bill simmons IN the book of BASKETBALL

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed

...the movie

who's gonna dunk this tome with me over the next few weeks? i love simmons on hoops even when he's challopsy or even just wrong but i think this book might be amazing

sitting in the package on my desk right now to start after cavs/celts when i get home-- thanking u amazon

i'll see you in jamie mccourt then (agent hibachi), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 23:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

speaking of this guy, anyone watching that 30 for 30 series
http://30for30.espn.com/

am0n, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 00:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

a 30 for 30 thread

a goon boy (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 01:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

i kinda want to read this - i h8 this guys whole steez but sort of love his basketball writing - o jeez i just dont know - ive never read a sports book before this is weird for me

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 05:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

i started it last night and the prologue is a big sloppy bj for larry bird of course, but its supposed to be a more personal intro before the nitty gritty starts up. i think its tolerable even if yr not a celtics fan and there's lots of good stuff. the footnotes are really funny!

i think there's going to be tons of quality kareem bashing too, which is a big plus in my book

i'll see you in jamie mccourt then (agent hibachi), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 16:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

you should read it ice cr*m, i think if you like his bball writing theres going to be too much fun stuff in here to ignore-- i learned that dave cowens took off a third of a season to DRIVE A CAB

i'll see you in jamie mccourt then (agent hibachi), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 16:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

i missed the colts band 30 for 30 but the other two so far have been great-- thought berg's gretzky one was actually a great film, very cool and affecting, outstanding style

i'll see you in jamie mccourt then (agent hibachi), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 16:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

I don't think I could read an entire book of Simmons' writing.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 18:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

i think i totally could - i just def dont have the time atm

k3vin k., Wednesday, 28 October 2009 18:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

to echo those above, though, it would have to be abt hoops

k3vin k., Wednesday, 28 October 2009 18:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

yeah i'm not sure i'll have time for this until like the holidays

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 18:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

freedarko book vs book of basketball

am0n, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 19:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

freedarko i have a hard time reading 2 paragraphs - srsly learn writing guys!

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 19:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

freedarko is awful and dumb imo

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 19:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

i don't really want to read either of them!

am0n, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 19:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

good thing it's a free country, am0n!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 19:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

freedarko book has been sitting on my dresser since the day it dropped, i love those guys tho

a goon boy (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 20:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpk_zOfxkhc

am0n, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 20:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think Simmons is definitely at his best when he's doing straight NBA analysis, so I'm enjoying this so far (roughly 100pp in). The Isiah/Vegas chapter is really great.

One criticism I have is that weird semantic thing he does sometimes when he's discussing race in sports; for instance, in the Bird chapter he chalks part of Bird's career decline up to "a wave of athletic black forwards that were slowly making the Kelly Tripuckas and Kiki Vandeweghes obsolete."

I don't think anybody who's read Simmons for a while is at risk of misreading that, but I'm kinda surprised they left it in, y'know?

Conservative HOT Mom! (govern yourself accordingly), Thursday, 29 October 2009 01:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

The black is a better athlete to begin with because he's been bred to be that way — because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back, and they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs. This goes back all the way to the Civil War when during the slave trading, the owner — the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid.

jØrdån (omar little), Thursday, 29 October 2009 01:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

I was a big Jimmy the Greek fan as a little kid and was bummed when they fired him. :/

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 29 October 2009 01:32 (nine years ago) Permalink

this is a little off topic, but I can't stand the way he speaks on podcasts and stuff - sounds like I'm listening to a college sophomore with a bunch of flattened KEYSTONE LIGHT boxes taped to his wall

囧 (dyao), Friday, 30 October 2009 03:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

he's on colbert tonight, should be coming on pretty soon...

a goon boy (J0rdan S.), Friday, 30 October 2009 03:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

this is a little off topic, but I can't stand the way he speaks on podcasts and stuff - sounds like I'm listening to a college sophomore with a bunch of flattened KEYSTONE LIGHT boxes taped to his wall

― 囧 (dyao), Thursday, October 29, 2009 11:25 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i always liked this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQbcVnsK9g8

candice spergin (cankles), Friday, 30 October 2009 03:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

Well, if you look at who he's talking about that replaced Bird, Vandeweigh, and Tripuka, et al., he's not wrong. There were a bunch of really good, athletic power forwards who could run, rebound and dunk over a city bus, who happened to be black. The phrasing is awkward, and makes him seem to be placing the race thing a little high in the analysis.

I am looking forward to this book - his knowledge of NBA stuff is pretty amazing, and he tends to do some pretty inventive statistical analysis.

And yes, this dude was totally a douchebag in college.

Adventures of Dog Boy and Frank Sobotka (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 30 October 2009 16:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

the first real chapter ("the secret") is pretty good. simmon's tim duncan reclamation project is almost working on me. ive always found him the most boring superstar and basically hated him for wiping out the fun-n-suns year after year but always respected him as a player and think he's probably a great guy.

putting him in stark contrast now with shaq: four rings on the same team, cycled through good roleplayers that he made great (both did this), still in title contention with that same team, while shaq is now basically a big media presence journeyman...i think i'm convinced that timmy is the best of the era ending right about now.

i'll see you in jamie mccourt then (agent hibachi), Friday, 30 October 2009 16:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

duncan as the best of his generation is pretty indisputable imo

ice cr?m, Friday, 30 October 2009 16:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

Duncan = not of Kobe's era?

B/c -

Four rings with same team
Cycled through journeymen and made them better
Still in title contention with same team

Could also describe Kobe.

Adventures of Dog Boy and Frank Sobotka (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 30 October 2009 20:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

buddy sry kobe is not better than duncan - also shaq was the best player on 3/4 of those teams

ice cr?m, Friday, 30 October 2009 20:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

1 duncan
2 shaq
then kobe garnett et al

ice cr?m, Friday, 30 October 2009 20:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

says the celts, fan get outta here

anyway duncan and kobe are apples n oranges

k3vin k., Friday, 30 October 2009 20:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

lol "celts fan, get"

k3vin k., Friday, 30 October 2009 20:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

as afar as know neither duncan or shaq are or have ever been on the celtics

ice cr?m, Friday, 30 October 2009 20:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

fan, get as afar as know

ice cr?m, Friday, 30 October 2009 20:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

In school, Duncan was a bright pupil and dreamt of becoming an Olympic-level swimmer like his sister, Tricia.[5][6] His parents were very supportive and Duncan excelled at swimming, becoming a teenage standout in the 50, 100 and 400 meters freestyle and aiming to make the 1992 Olympic Games as a member of the United States Team.[5]

When Hurricane Hugo destroyed the island's only Olympic-sized swimming pool in 1989, forcing Duncan to swim in the ocean, he soon lost enthusiasm because of his fear of sharks.[4]

this is why he's #1

chemical ali v. chemical frazier (m bison), Friday, 30 October 2009 21:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

also spurs teams with duncan on them have never won fewer than 53 games (lockout season excepted)

chemical ali v. chemical frazier (m bison), Friday, 30 October 2009 21:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

buddy sry kobe is not better than duncan

http://hillbilly10commandments.com/images/moses3.bmp

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 30 October 2009 22:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

huh, i never really think about kobe v duncan.

like kobe used to get compared to his contemporaries like pierce, ray allen, carter, mcgrady, but now that it's clear that none of them are as good as he is, he tends to get compared to jordan and maybe lebron.

they're definitely the best of the nba players who emerged in the late '90s, and both of them started out on teams that were immediately successful, but in terms of position and temperament they're completely different.

circles, Friday, 30 October 2009 22:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

yah its a tough comparison but i think if kobe goes on a run the next few years with a ring or two and consistent finals appearances before he starts to decline, we'll end up looking at the 08 lakers/celts series as the start of the post-timmy era...esp if TD doesn't get another ring before he retires. i tend to think that kobe's first three rings dont count quite as much *for him* in this kind of discussion because he wasn't the undisputed leader of those teams. even more so than points, stats, etc i think thats what simmons convinced me about-- even on the 99 team with robinson, it was absolutely td's team.

i'll see you in jamie mccourt then (agent hibachi), Saturday, 31 October 2009 00:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

bought this book today iirc. chapter one was great--plenty of lols and good writing.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 31 October 2009 00:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

bill simmons is sitting in with the commentators @ celtics/bulls rite now

am0n, Saturday, 31 October 2009 01:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

not a good voice

am0n, Saturday, 31 October 2009 01:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

never heard him before colbert, if anything douchier than advertised

5-23-09 CLUTCH & EVIL LOOK (tremendoid), Saturday, 31 October 2009 04:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha ive heard him like 100x via podcasts and such, but yeah as much as i like dude he gets frattier every element of him you discover writing -> voice -> irl

k3vin k., Saturday, 31 October 2009 04:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

yeah i don't mind reading him actually, lets you know where he stands and puts teeth into it. entertaining as far as it goes

5-23-09 CLUTCH & EVIL LOOK (tremendoid), Saturday, 31 October 2009 04:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

i remember when he was on colbert a while back, he got booed when he made fun of clinton for throwing like a girl

candice spergin (cankles), Saturday, 31 October 2009 09:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

yah its a tough comparison but i think if kobe goes on a run the next few years with a ring or two and consistent finals appearances before he starts to decline, we'll end up looking at the 08 lakers/celts series as the start of the post-timmy era...esp if TD doesn't get another ring before he retires. i tend to think that kobe's first three rings dont count quite as much *for him* in this kind of discussion because he wasn't the undisputed leader of those teams. even more so than points, stats, etc i think thats what simmons convinced me about-- even on the 99 team with robinson, it was absolutely td's team.

This is what is going to make the Western Conf. so interesting this year. They both have good teams and something to prove.

Adventures of Dog Boy and Frank Sobotka (B.L.A.M.), Saturday, 31 October 2009 15:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

I can't imagine "something to prove" matters as much to Tim as it does to Kobes. I'm not trying to argue Duncan isn't driven or whatever, I just don't think he cares as much about what people think about him. (Tbf, he also doesn't have as much negativity to cope with.)

This part of the sentence is even dumber. (lukas), Saturday, 31 October 2009 15:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah. That's probably a pretty fair assessment on both of them.

Ultraviolet Thunder (B.L.A.M.), Saturday, 31 October 2009 21:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

Have purchased. Have read the first 100 or so pages. Have learned a lot about Boston basketball. Woo, this guy is a HOMER.

Ultraviolet Thunder (B.L.A.M.), Sunday, 1 November 2009 15:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

the police dog tweet no longer exists btw

lag∞n, Friday, 30 March 2018 23:53 (eight months ago) Permalink

lol

mookieproof, Friday, 30 March 2018 23:54 (eight months ago) Permalink

his anti-analytics rant has gotten a lot of attention, and it is very dumb, but moreso he just is a condescending prick the entire time, basically taking offense to every question being asked

k3vin k., Saturday, 31 March 2018 00:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

he seems like someone who might have a hard time being happy

call all destroyer, Saturday, 31 March 2018 00:21 (eight months ago) Permalink

Got runs from taco bell though

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 31 March 2018 00:37 (eight months ago) Permalink

The pats lost the SB and his career peaked half a decade ago of course he’s salty

El Tomboto, Saturday, 31 March 2018 01:04 (eight months ago) Permalink

lol wrong dude

call all destroyer, Saturday, 31 March 2018 01:06 (eight months ago) Permalink

I’m not wrong though

El Tomboto, Saturday, 31 March 2018 01:12 (eight months ago) Permalink

nah simmons is good

k3vin k., Saturday, 31 March 2018 01:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

I felt like he kinda got yanked around in this interview and chickened out in a few spots

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Saturday, 31 March 2018 01:24 (eight months ago) Permalink

agree

k3vin k., Saturday, 31 March 2018 02:15 (eight months ago) Permalink

though he did kind of call KD out a couple of times for being a grump

k3vin k., Saturday, 31 March 2018 02:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

bill could have easily called/educated him on EFG% point. ive liked the KD interviews prior to this one but he really was an ass here. seemed like he took a contrarian stance on basically every question before even thinking about what was stated. im surprised that manager dude who was part of the interviews let this one out (he kinda seems like an ass too tho tbf).

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Saturday, 31 March 2018 03:57 (eight months ago) Permalink

agree w/y'all but I'm trying to have some sympathy for KD. he's been criticized relentlessly since deciding to go to GSW, plus seems to spend a fair bit of time on social media. idk seems bad for his psyche, one which prob had grumpish tendencies already.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 2 April 2018 16:30 (eight months ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/YCfzSFX.png

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Monday, 2 April 2018 16:37 (eight months ago) Permalink

lol

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Monday, 2 April 2018 17:29 (eight months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

a man who has never heard of steampunk or latchkey kids

let’s get real (alomar lines), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 04:56 (seven months ago) Permalink

can't fault him for the first one

mookieproof, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 05:08 (seven months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

DS just can’t leave Bill alone.

Jeff, Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:47 (six months ago) Permalink

it was more fun to hear jeff goldblum poke fun at how lame and shallow bill's movie opinions are a few months ago.

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:48 (six months ago) Permalink

fun fun. anyway, those chants are very bad. I started listening to his podcasts, and I think I've finally reached simmons saturation. just hearing his voice bothers me now. and then his non-writer friend crew podcasts are also so terrible. it all gives me the feeling that I'm eating at a whalburgers.

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:52 (six months ago) Permalink

i feel so bad for whoever had to research that piece

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:54 (six months ago) Permalink

seems like a passion project by david roth, who is a great writer btw

sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:56 (six months ago) Permalink

Of course there would be a chant using WNBA as an insult.

omar little, Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:58 (six months ago) Permalink

“since you’re a girl I’ll walk you thru this”

omar little, Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:59 (six months ago) Permalink

yeah roth is cool and simmons as anyone with a brain knows is good, seems like he was just having fun with the piece

k3vin k., Thursday, 24 May 2018 21:57 (six months ago) Permalink

ftr i like simmons fine but he’s not someone where i’d really relish digging thru the archives.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 May 2018 22:10 (six months ago) Permalink

some ppl take fart sniffing as a way of life and who am i to judge

sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 24 May 2018 22:25 (six months ago) Permalink

was listening to the dave chang podcast ... chang is like absurdly deferential to simmons, like simmons is his idol or somethin'... also i learned that rian johnson and karina longworth are a couple

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 24 May 2018 22:33 (six months ago) Permalink

yeah, chang gives me the same grown up boss baby vibes I get from simmons. he is certainly a better food podcast host than "joe house", though.

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 24 May 2018 23:22 (six months ago) Permalink

What did Jeff Goldblum say to him? I couldn't make it through that pod. That deadspin article is very funny.

the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Friday, 25 May 2018 07:37 (six months ago) Permalink

Simmons kept asking variations of "you were in X movie. X was huge. What was that like?" and goldblum kept pointing it out to him instead of just telling a story about X movie.

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 25 May 2018 11:53 (six months ago) Permalink

Goldblum told him he sounds like "a producer" and indicated that they were poorly formed interview questions.

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 25 May 2018 11:58 (six months ago) Permalink

lolll

the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Friday, 25 May 2018 14:55 (six months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

today’s Bill Simmons Podcast is LOADED pic.twitter.com/N3Yt6oiOlK

— FatCroix Slim (@killakow) June 27, 2018

Hall of Fam (Spottie), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:25 (five months ago) Permalink

with nacho cheese and spicy ranch?

sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:25 (five months ago) Permalink

lmao that's pretty good

k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:52 (five months ago) Permalink

Haralabos Voulgaris comes across as super shady. Deadspin or someone similar should write a profile of this dude. Everything online is personal myth making bullshit.

Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 30 June 2018 02:19 (five months ago) Permalink

lol he's a lifelong gambler, they are a shady bunch. I...know a lot of gamblers and haralabob comes across as pretty thoughtful and well-adjusted to me

looking forward to this pod, hopefully simmons lets him talk

k3vin k., Saturday, 30 June 2018 02:22 (five months ago) Permalink

if you go back like 5 years you can find pods with bob talking about his life. he grew up poor in canada, did some hustling, and started making serious money when he found some patterns in nba games. he seems like a really boring dude tbh but i like listening to him talk about ball.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 30 June 2018 02:29 (five months ago) Permalink

boring maybe but seems like a chill guy. I would be his friend

k3vin k., Saturday, 30 June 2018 02:52 (five months ago) Permalink

to get courtside seats obv

k3vin k., Saturday, 30 June 2018 02:52 (five months ago) Permalink

it's cute how much he loves his little elderly dog

call all destroyer, Saturday, 30 June 2018 02:54 (five months ago) Permalink

lol this pod is heated, good stuff

k3vin k., Saturday, 30 June 2018 03:28 (five months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

btw the ringer has become.....very good?

call all destroyer, Friday, 27 July 2018 03:48 (four months ago) Permalink

it has some good writers.

21st savagery fox (m bison), Friday, 27 July 2018 04:03 (four months ago) Permalink

theyve definitely found a groove

InfoWarriors (Spottie), Friday, 27 July 2018 06:12 (four months ago) Permalink

It's an everyday read now and not just the occasional link.

Jeff, Friday, 27 July 2018 09:34 (four months ago) Permalink


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.