This is your rolling New York Knicks trainwreck thread

Brown, who used his 11th different lineup Tuesday, has created some of the instability himself, by deciding to start players in their hometowns."

http://www.nypost.com/seven/02292008/sports/knicks/keep_out__marbury__99750.htm

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7lvYf08X6tc

aiiiiiiiiiiirbaaaaaallllol

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qPwAAn7FiGY

James Dolan is the fucking worst!!
i wish they could get rid of him as well.

By the looks of things, he could be done in by a Monte Cristo or a super-sized value meal. Just send him some mayo.

i'm not even a knicks fan at all. it would just be cool if they were at least competitive. i can't even talk shit to knicks fans because i just feel bad for them.

If Walsh keeps Thomas, that will be hilarious.

WTF? they are considering this,right?
Thomas must have pictures of dolan going down on him in the locker room

carne that's exactly what i think, seriously -- or something of that nature

This article is gggrrrrreat!

http://nymag.com/news/sports/45787/

is david lee the only salvageable player on this rosteR??
i guess maybe that dude with dreads...

Ronaldo? Oh hell no -- he looks like a game-free Joakim Noah. Maybe N8, as a mini-mini Microwave sort.

i guess all i've seen balkman do is run around on some najera type shit. maybe 11th or 12th man material? and that's one of zeke's draft 'gems'

whatever nate gives you scoring is taken back ten fold by his mini-hulk attitude.

didn't he fight someone in the postgame showers? yall see eastern promises? i imagine it was like that.

That article is pretty good. Spike Lee saying "hornswoggled" alone makes it worthwhile. The intervention when trying to get an interview with Malik Rose was especially o_O

yeah i read this shit yesterday when i was supposed to be doing something else and would totally click again A++

i havent watched the knicks live in like a year and a half and im pretty sure my life is better for it

Actually, watching the Knicks flail about and screw their pooch is pretty entertaining (cf. YouTube of Zach Randolph: Male Point Guard). It's like the reverse of watching the Celts or Phoenix or Lakers click on all cylinders.

Best thing about this year: Jamal Crawford's mondo-sized shoulder bandage.

Also YES re: that fantastic NY article!

So Mark Jackson's a possible coaching candidate, & announced during last night's game that he's leaving the YES broadcast booth?

Does Mark Jackson have any management experience?

Dunno. Didn't stop Steve Kerr from getting the Phoenix GM job, tho. Hell, didn't keep Isiah Thomas from doing what he did, either!

i was kind of warming to the jackson/van gundy tandem. seems like jackson is stepping in shit but he'll get points just for coaching at all after this nonsense

My one fear: lots of "you're better than that" references.

"Dunno. Didn't stop Steve Kerr from getting the Phoenix GM job, tho. Hell, didn't keep Isiah Thomas from doing what he did, either!"

Yeah and those were great moves!

By-siah!

I wonder if he gets another job anywhere now?

Oh wait it looks like he still going to be doing "something" for the Knicks.

wau, are we sure that donnie walsh is of sound mind and body?

"And Thomas will be a part of that. Without getting specific, Walsh said there were assignments he’d feel completely comfortable giving to Thomas.

"Like washing my car, walking my dog, making sure my kids get to Little League. I will be in touch with Isiah a lot,” Walsh said.""

The fact that Donnie Walsh is considering Billy King for GM does not bode well for the post-Thomas era.

Clippers East.

In his own words:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/richard_deitsch/04/18/isiah.quotes/index.html

The Knicks sure are playing well with all of those dudes Isiah assembled. Maybe what they needed was a good coach?

FREE STARBURY

ha, as long as d'antoni can avoid playing starbury and fat eddy

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20090201/capt.def0b87dc3a047179f31fc9f0d7c94fe.knicks_pacers_basketball_naf108.jpg?x=260&y=345&q=85&sig=gAR5L4PKX3PvuulnB_n2ew--

KARATE

It could be worse - you could be a Chicago Bulls fan - trust me - it's painful ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-robert-casey/how-to-lose-lebron-in-10_b_350291.html

man, i really want the knicks to be good

these fucking guys!!

eddy fucking curry!! are you kidding me? franchise player??

GREENBURGH, N.Y. - Eleven minutes of Eddy Curry helped doom the possibility of 71 games of Allen Iverson.

That was one of the nuggets of information revealed by Knicks president Donnie Walsh this afternoon as he explained New York's decision to pass on the opportunity to sign unrestricted free agent Allen Iverson.

Curry played 11 minutes Wednesday night in the Knicks' victory in Indiana, and Walsh said the continued rehabilitation and re-integration of Curry -- along with the fear that Iverson would take minutes away from the young players the Knicks are trying to develop -- impacted the decision.

"That's part of it, because Eddy is now on the team and we've got to develop a lot of attention to Eddy from a franchise standpoint, because he went out there in 11 minutes and I thought actually changed the game in a lot of ways. Their big guys were having their way with us, which big men do because David (Lee) is not a natural center, and when Eddy went in -- just the fact that he could take the ball and go at them -- I could see they went back on their heels and they weren't the same after that no matter who was playing. I thought he helped us win the game right there. He's got a lot of talent, he's got great size, you can see he's worked on his body tremendously, so yeah, Eddy is a guy we're very high on, and we wanted to work with him."

which dudes are they developing? most these guys won’t even be there next year,right? i would have paid real money to go see Iverson at the garden this season.

ahaha thats ridic

they've been terrible since 2000

It's almost as if, on top of putting a bad team together, they also want to avoid selling tickets.

Maybe they are trying to move the team a la Major League.

i mean i think this is absolutely correct

fivethirtyeight Nate Silver
There are ~8-10 guys in the NBA who are worth way more than the max contract. MIA has two right now. If they signed Paul, NYK would have 1.
10 minutes ago

yeah i guess the real thing is any one of paul, deron, howard would be a better fit with amar'e. still wacky to call it a d+ deal!

yeah its kinda a D+ from the pov of contending for a title, a B+ as far as improvement, and a A+++++ from a marketing standpoint

still think the problem w the analysis upthread is that i actually believe melo woulda signed w/ denver to get the $$$. he wanted knicks, but he was gonna get that money no matter what.

yeah but that wouldve been the best possible outcome for the knicks if it lead to them getting one of howard/paul/deron

nerds agree http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/deal-for-anthony-may-limit-knicks-upside

i like hollinger's analysis. there's no point in even playing thru the regular-season, really. just calculate how many wins each team will have, based on their roster and offseason acquisitions, and then set-up playoff brackets.

oh, to account for regular-season injuries and wear-and-tear on older players, smash a steel plate against every player's kneecaps, calves and back before starting the playoffs.

CSheridanESPN Chris Sheridan/Amar'e Stoudemire said he spokely briefly with Carmelo Anthony after trade was agreed to.

sounds awkward.

i think hollinger makes a lot of sense, altho i think he's underrating melo as a player

honestly it seems to me like the nba is sort of starting to resemble baseball a bit, tho in an even more exaggerated fashion

like you have the top tier destination spots in the nba now where ppl seem to agree that all FAs want to go (miami, LA, ny, chicago, and i think you could add boston in here once kg/ray/pierce nucleus moves on) just like you have in baseball (yanks, sox, phils etc) except in the nba you have these teams wielding the nature of their locale as the trump card as opposed to the ability to just pay out the wazoo like the red sox or something

then you have everyone else basically, and those teams break down into teams that will spend big money on players and those that won't/can't. like, in the nba you have joe johnson signing a max deal, igoudala coming close, but none of those teams are gonna seriously compete for an nba title any time soon, and i think it's sort of the equivalent of like the mariners signing jayson werth, or the mariners doling out massive money for chone figgins, or the jays paying out their ass for vernon wells

& then you have the smart teams that are gonna lay back & rebuild organically cuz that's the only way you can. like, the thunder = the rays (durant = longoria even) as a team w/ a very smart front office that schooled everyone in draft/development & then even teams like the clippers or memphis (despite throwing mad money at rudy gay) who are developing potential contenders thru the draft, tho even against their will in the clippers case

anyway my point is that i think for a team like denver this is prob a blessing in disguise if their management is good enough, because they're a mid-tier team & signing carmelo to the max for the next three years wasn't gonna bring them any close.

i know it's not a perfect analogy but that's sorta how it feels to me

totally true. makes me wonder if -- in response -- the owners will demand a revenue-sharing type of system, like the nfl has.

well its more that they couldve gotten melo but if they didnt then they prob could get someone even better next year - its speculative for sure - especially considering no one knows what the new cba will look like - but the fact that melo/deron/paul/howard all seem to have some level of interesting new york makes it maybe not such a bad bet - on the other hand melo was actually getable now which has a lot to say for itself - but BUT theyve hamstrung themselves going forward by giving up so much/signing two max players who arent uber eliete guys

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:38 AM (3 hours ago)

yeah this is how i'm seeing this too

that 538 article is great

the first comment on the 538 article is hilarious

"Great article. First time I've seen John Hollinger's stats used for something relevant."

ouch.

woj is unreal

i love that one (unsourced) quote btw

When asked on Tuesday how much involvement Thomas had in the Anthony trade, Walsh jabbed, “I’m assuming Isiah’s getting ready for the NCAA tournament.”

lol.

Once, Thomas brought Dolan with him on a comic-strip recruiting mission of Kobe Bryant(notes): Together, they traveled to California armed with an electric offer: Come take the midlevel exception for a chance to play with Stephon Marbury(notes).

ahhahahahah

yeah, this sounds like an overblown story. this article sounds like it was kobe playing games with the LAL back in 2004. significantly, however, the linked article does say, in a completely serious-sounding tone, that the NYK tried to entice the LAL to trade kobe bryant for allan houston.

http://grab.by/9hnS

kidna looks like tyler the creator

new ilh board descrip: "Seriously, who the [expletive] is Isiah kidding with this [expletive]"

Kinda feel like the trade made both teams better

Since the Melo trade, Nuggets have been 10-3, Knicks have been 7-7. Interesting.

it's almost as if the knicks traded away their entire team and are now forced to give major minutes to ronny turiaf, jared jefferies and toney douglas

after one its the milwaukee bucks 32 and YOUR new york knicks 9

noooooo way

well, you know what they say about early sunday afternoon games for road teams in milwuakee

a photo pf george karl laughing: http://grab.by/9zZQ

knicks made a comeback - down by 3 8 minutes left

the bucks won by five points

lol?

took yall this important photo while i was in ny

http://i52.tinypic.com/2lcmlic.jpg

clip art that's printed out is next level imo

speling

http://www.candyfavorites.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/HFCA295.jpg

Knicks acquire Amare Stoudemire in off season and Carmelo Anthony at the trading deadline!!

Knicks make playoffs for the first time in umpty-diddly years!!

Knicks get swept 4-0 by the Celtics in the first round!!

Uh. Progress!!

happy trails, donnie

loooool let me guess, they're bringing isiah back

The Knicks are the gift that keeps on giving.

donnie will next be gm'ing a retirement home

if isiah comes back i will lol so hard for so long

it would be the lol to end all lols

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/knicksblog/knicks_owner_band_to_tour_with_the_pGnznDjO6BxuU0KrERaSuI#axzz2WmuCnHCZ

lol his band is so obviously a bunch of expensive hired guns -- he stinks

moar like Jimmy D and the Foul Shot

JD

whatever

Dolan out the jamz

lol

a good year means you need throwback trainwreck
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31335411/inside-knicks-secret-attempt-lure-michael-jordan-bulls