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emoni bates is playing for memphis this year but wont be old enough for next years draft, do not recall seeing that before

lag∞n, Thursday, 18 November 2021 00:05 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

seems like there's no consensus on the no 1 pick which is pretty interesting, paolo banchero seems like leader in the clubhouse as of now but i see various boards that have other guys at no. 1. he just had prob his best game of the season vs FSU tho, putting up 20-12-7 on 6-11 shooting and making tons of plays down the stretch, nice touch on his passes. i wonder how he'll test athletically, you don't necessarily see overwhelming athleticism in these clips, but he's skilled, poised, and very strong, some real men amongst boys plays. i don't have a great feel for what position ppl think he will play defensively, he's either a positionless fever dream or an exploitable tweener, i can't really tell. if he could passably play center he could be a monster but idk if that's in his future. he's a 34% shooter from deep and shoots 76% from the line, w/ his size the tools are there for a really great offensive player, consistent double-doubles w/ potential for some 20-10-5 type of seasons. feel like ben simmons is a decent comp and what you're giving up in athleticism w/ banchero you gain in overall offensive skill, especially in terms of scoring, as well as just overall oomph on the game. some good clips of his passing in the NC state game from last week, he has a calmness about him in the way that he reads the floor that feels very functional, not preternatural necessarily but if his court vision continues to grow along w/ the rest of his game he will likely be very hard to defend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygtHdAPNNo8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ncXSRvEM3M

J0rdan S., Friday, 21 January 2022 05:56 (ten months ago) link

everyone seems to have holmgren banchero and jabari smith in some order as the top three, i think i still like holmgren just cause he has that combo of freakish body and great feel for the game that nba stars are made of, smith is your prototypical super athletic very big wing i can def see why teams would be very stoked on him, banchero has the most developed game but maybe lacks some of the elite athleticism length and so forth that could make him an absolute top guy idk

lag∞n, Friday, 21 January 2022 12:13 (ten months ago) link

jabari is my #1 bc of the Big Wing thing, thats the most important position in hoops rn, chet worries me bc he just looks like a guy who will miss a lot of time, prove me wrong chet

if the spurs dont launch into the lottery, i like keegan murray from iowa lot. he's older (21 i think) but he's got a pretty nba-ready game from the looks of things

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 21 January 2022 15:46 (ten months ago) link

but who am i kidding the spurs are gonna draft another 6'5" combo guard

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 21 January 2022 15:46 (ten months ago) link

those top 3 guys all seem to have distinct strengths and weaknesses, no clear front-runner so far. will be interesting to see how it plays out based on their college seasons.

call all destroyer, Friday, 21 January 2022 16:08 (ten months ago) link

I think Jabari is overrated right now and people are overthinking the chet thing. Players don’t get injured because they’re skinny.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 21 January 2022 16:14 (ten months ago) link

I worry Banchero will turn out to be Michael Beasley

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 21 January 2022 16:16 (ten months ago) link

I think Jabari is overrated right now and people are overthinking the chet thing. Players don’t get injured because they’re skinny.

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, January 21, 2022 10:14 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

um yes they do!!!!!

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 21 January 2022 16:25 (ten months ago) link

penny, shaun livingston, kd, shawn bradley, manute bol, bol bol, pls dont think this is just me spreading more pro-fat propaganda

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 21 January 2022 16:27 (ten months ago) link

you know who doesnt miss many games OR meals

jokic

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 21 January 2022 16:28 (ten months ago) link

I worry Banchero will turn out to be Michael Beasley

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, January 21, 2022 11:16 AM (one hour ago)

yeah i can see that. marvin bagley & jahlil okafor two other duke guys w/o great athleticism who just dominated w/ size in college and then flamed out. beasley only averaged 1.6 apg in college tho, paolo is at double that, and he's bigger. also michael beasley who has his head screwed on straight & plays the game less selfishly could've been a good player albeit not a multi time all star or anything

J0rdan S., Friday, 21 January 2022 18:24 (ten months ago) link

i think i would prob pick chet no 1, in the event that you get any of the evan mobley skill set it will prob be worth it

J0rdan S., Friday, 21 January 2022 18:25 (ten months ago) link

the other thought i had when watching banchero was "what if obi toppin was good and didn't move like an abe lincoln impersonator on stilts"

J0rdan S., Friday, 21 January 2022 18:32 (ten months ago) link

lmao

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 21 January 2022 18:34 (ten months ago) link

jabari smith def seems like a top 3 pick to me, top 5 at absolute worst. if there's any jayson tatum out of the top group it would be him. his spot up shot is a bit slow to me, and the way the ball comes off his hand when he shoots FTs seems a bit weird. he does have a nice fadeaway midrange game tho, and his hands are very active on defense. 7' 2" wingspan. he's another one where i wonder how he tests athletically, you don't see him just killing guys at the rim in his clips... paging jayson tatum. he also only has a season high of four assists this year. i think he's prob below chet and banchero for me

clip of him putting up 25-7-1 w/ 4 blocks and 2 steals on the road vs alabama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBUYA1BxaME

J0rdan S., Friday, 21 January 2022 18:40 (ten months ago) link

chet's shot is so smooth. w/ his defensive potential i feel like he has to go number 1, at worst i feel like you're getting a porzingis type player w/ a better shot and a body potentially less conducive to leg injuries. at best you're potentially getting like karl towns crossed w/ evan mobley. in between maybe he's chris bosh w/ more rim protection. idk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4ZpisXk6R8

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 January 2022 19:16 (ten months ago) link

yeah i like chet too, with his freakish arms crazy feel for the game and having all the offensive skills he should go 1 imho, you're potentially getting like karl towns crossed w/ evan mobley exactly he pretty clearly has the highest ceiling of the top guys, the reason hes not the consensus #1 right now is prob because hes not really featured on his team cause he plays next to an older player of the year candidate and that evaluators tend to underrate feel for the game being a true baller and so forth due to it being highly intangible

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 21:09 (ten months ago) link

chets got the juice, the it factor

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 21:09 (ten months ago) link

if jabari smith had an off the bounce game i could see the argument... but he doesnt

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 21:12 (ten months ago) link

feel like chet will be one of those guys who have their aggressiveness questioned leading up to the draft drop a couple few spots then just come in and start doing insane things from day one in the nba

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 21:16 (ten months ago) link

i feel like evan mobley is pretty strong proof of concept for chet, almost feels like it's lining up for it to be the perfect year to take a guy like this no 1 overall. chet maybe not as great defensively i mean mobley seems like a phenom but chet is far more developed as a shooter. w/ his shooting form/touch and natural shot blocking ability i just feel like he's the kind of high floor/high ceiling prospect you should be aiming for w/ a no 1 pick. i'm trying to imagine the worst case outcome for him if he has even average health for a big man. myles turner? jarren jackson jr? his overall feel just seems far superior to those guys and he's taller and he's a better shooter etc

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 January 2022 21:22 (ten months ago) link

and chet might even be mobley on D, i mean hes a defensive star

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 21:26 (ten months ago) link

People are overthinking this, Chet is clearly the guy. Jabari has a really raw game that requires a lot of projection to see in the nba, Chet can shoot and handle.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 22:46 (ten months ago) link

tbf jabari can shoot good but yeah hes pretty raw

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 22:55 (ten months ago) link

i hope yall are right abt slenderman

class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 27 January 2022 01:02 (ten months ago) link

CHET HOLMGREN WITH 11 POINTS IN UNDER TWO MINUTES 🤯 pic.twitter.com/YBeBtOP71q

— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) February 4, 2022



man his shot is so pure. also sandwiched in there him blocking the other center right at the rim and going the entire length of the court with the ball to score

J0rdan S., Friday, 4 February 2022 05:07 (nine months ago) link

his last 4 games

23-12 4 blocks on 9-12 shooting, 3-5 from three
12-11 on 4-6 shooting, 4-6 from three
21-9 3 blocks on 7-8 shooting, 3-3 from three
22-9 4 blocks on 7-10 shooting, 2-4 from three

shooting 63/46/74 on the season

J0rdan S., Friday, 4 February 2022 05:16 (nine months ago) link

ok so MAYBE with modern medicine factored in he shd be #1

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 5 February 2022 02:19 (nine months ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 February 2022 02:20 (nine months ago) link

two weeks pass...

chet looks like a phenom

Another day at the office for projected top pick Chet Holmgren: 21 PTS (12 FGAs), 15 REBS, 6 BLK, 3 STL in a win over USF. No other player in the draft who can do the things he can on both ends. Going to make a lot of his naysayers look silly. No. 1 prospect in this 2022 class. pic.twitter.com/BvnV51J04S

— Mike Schmitz (@Mike_Schmitz) February 25, 2022

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 February 2022 08:25 (nine months ago) link

dare i say kevin durant but an even better defender vibes??

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 February 2022 08:26 (nine months ago) link

Chet Holmgren tonight:

- 21 points
- 15 rebounds
- 6 blocks
- 3 steals
- 2 3-pointers

It’s the 2nd time this season he’s had at least 20 points, 15 boards, 5 blocks and 2 3-pointers in a game.

No other Division I player over the last decade has done that twice.

— Jared Berson (@JaredBerson) February 25, 2022

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 February 2022 08:27 (nine months ago) link

Chet Holmgren of @ZagMBB has played 5 true road games in his career. He is averaging 18.6 points, 14.6 rebounds and 4.2 blocks in those games.

He's the only Division I player in the last 25 years to average 18/14/4 over any span of 5 road games (let alone his first 5).

— Stats By STATS (@StatsBySTATS) February 25, 2022

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 February 2022 08:31 (nine months ago) link

it was a weird time because of COVID and I wasn't doing much but I'll never stop kicking myself for not going to see him play in high school, his HS was walking distance from my house

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 February 2022 14:03 (nine months ago) link

three weeks pass...

this guy has very long arms

Best Euroleague game of the season for 17-year old Victor Wembanyama with 14 points, 5 rebounds, 5 blocks, 2 assists, 2 steals and a road win. The 7-3, projected No. 1 pick in 2023 showed his fantastic mobility, length, skill and feel for the game against high-level competition. pic.twitter.com/VSWdaV0AMq

— Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) March 23, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:00 (eight months ago) link

dont think ive seen someone that tall get down in a stance like that

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:02 (eight months ago) link

feel like he has some "deer running on ice" vibes too him but he looks like he's gonna be a complete monster on defense

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:05 (eight months ago) link

draft xpress/espn guy called him the best prospect hes ever seen

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:10 (eight months ago) link

i feel like chet is more coordinated and has a better shot but i can see why someone would look at him and think he's an ultimate freak of nature

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:11 (eight months ago) link

i just watched a video of him and chet playing against each other and those are some crazy looking guys

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:12 (eight months ago) link

At 17 he's not yet accustomed to operating a body with such long arms and legs, let alone perfecting his footwork and his moves. He looks very promising, though. Good timing and vision.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:12 (eight months ago) link

chet is crazy skilled but he still has some of that big man stiffness the wembanyamas flexibility is pretty wild, and filling up the box score of a euro league game at 17 is rare, its even more impressive when you consider that with huge guys it usually takes longer to develop

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:20 (eight months ago) link

more of that game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7RTU8FtrM0

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:22 (eight months ago) link

wembanyama is going to be a lot of fun to watch, sky-high potential

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 March 2022 00:55 (eight months ago) link

only thing that worries me, knowing nothing, is hes too tall

lag∞n, Thursday, 24 March 2022 02:19 (eight months ago) link

but maybe he can overcome by having the pliancy of a 6-10 guy

lag∞n, Thursday, 24 March 2022 02:20 (eight months ago) link

pray 4 kd

Kyrie Irving said the plan is to re-sign with the Nets this summer. Doesn’t want to leave Kevin Durant and wants to build a legacy in Brooklyn with him.

— Alex Schiffer (@Alex__Schiffer) March 26, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 26 March 2022 16:01 (eight months ago) link

a legacy of alienating everyone off the team

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 26 March 2022 16:19 (eight months ago) link

The Kings will miss the playoffs for the 16th consecutive season, a new NBA record.

Kings fans deserve better. pic.twitter.com/Yf3MKtAWFQ

— StatMuse (@statmuse) April 4, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 4 April 2022 05:59 (seven months ago) link

The owners started groaning about it last season. Idk kinda sad they drafted all these dudes and can’t hold onto them without massive penalties

Spottie, Saturday, 15 October 2022 22:36 (one month ago) link

lolllll noooooo spottie "boo hoo the warriors are being punished for being too good" yes thats why salary caps and luxury taxes exist!!!!!!

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 15 October 2022 22:52 (one month ago) link

Let me whine in peace

Spottie, Saturday, 15 October 2022 22:59 (one month ago) link

idk it's pretty sad that all the good players can't be on one team, they would have fun

Clay, Saturday, 15 October 2022 23:13 (one month ago) link

the dubs didnt draft their best player, andrew "wigdawg" wiggins

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 23:22 (one month ago) link

Yet while this prospect of landing the Pacers’ Buddy Hield and/or center Myles Turner in a Westbrook-centric deal had loomed for months, there was a strong desire from some Lakers officials to see Westbrook play in Ham’s system before making that sort of monumental decision.

k3vin k., Sunday, 16 October 2022 00:03 (one month ago) link

o/u 10 games before he's gone?

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 16 October 2022 00:06 (one month ago) link

the monumental decision of getting rid of the player most likely to sink your team while you have lebron james and anthony davis in a wide-open league

Clay, Sunday, 16 October 2022 00:07 (one month ago) link

While we’re waiting for the season to start, there is some good hoop content on Netflix. Documentary on the 2008 Olympic “Redeem Team.”

that's not my post, Sunday, 16 October 2022 06:04 (one month ago) link

new wembanyama just dropped

Outstanding debut for 17-year old Aday Mara in the Spanish @ACBCOM. 8 points, 4 rebounds in 19 minutes against Euroleague team Baskonia. The skilled 7'3 center with a 7'6 wingspan is one of the most promising prospects in Europe. pic.twitter.com/gxPSMFwONp

— Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) October 17, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 17 October 2022 16:29 (one month ago) link

looks like a more traditional lumbering big

Spottie, Monday, 17 October 2022 17:12 (one month ago) link

father/son bonding = putting headphones in to play one on one lol

👑 vs🤴🏾
Bronny & LeBron’s new commercial for @beatsbydre!

pic.twitter.com/bXb7UnCr5J

— Ballislife.com (@Ballislife) October 17, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 17 October 2022 17:50 (one month ago) link

idk I think that's cute!

BTW is the NBA ready to draft a guy named Scoot?

Fartleby the Scrivener (Leee), Monday, 17 October 2022 18:47 (one month ago) link

it is cute.

scoot is a GREAT athlete name.

Spottie, Monday, 17 October 2022 18:53 (one month ago) link

Steve Ballmer has wanted to put Clippers games on a streaming service for years. Now he has one, ClipperVision, and 74 of the team’s 82 games will be broadcast there. I watched a test broadcast.

“This is our channel,” he said. https://t.co/b1FwoPwqYU

— Andrew Greif (@AndrewGreif) October 17, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 17 October 2022 18:53 (one month ago) link

Kawhi looks like he should be holding up a newspaper with today’s date.

sometimes you have to drink to kill the paranoia (PBKR), Monday, 17 October 2022 18:55 (one month ago) link

scoot is a GREAT athlete name.

I guess it's a SCUTE name.

Fartleby the Scrivener (Leee), Monday, 17 October 2022 18:55 (one month ago) link

love to pay $200 for 74 of the 82 clippers games

lag∞n, Monday, 17 October 2022 19:03 (one month ago) link

who wants to take the it upon themselves to star the regular season thread?

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 October 2022 19:05 (one month ago) link

2022/23 NBA REGULAR SEASON THREAD "TANKING FOR WEMBANYAMA"

lag∞n, Monday, 17 October 2022 19:18 (one month ago) link

Dennis Schroder underwent a procedure to repair a ligament in his thumb today, according to Lakers coach Darvin Ham. He is expected to be sidelined 3-4 weeks, per Ham.

— Dave McMenamin (@mcten) October 17, 2022

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 October 2022 20:39 (one month ago) link

off to a good start!

Spottie, Monday, 17 October 2022 20:41 (one month ago) link

per ham

lag∞n, Monday, 17 October 2022 20:41 (one month ago) link

okay

At the 6 PM ET buzzer: Atlanta Hawks forward De'Andre Hunter has agreed on a four-year, $95 million contract extension, his agents Thad Foucher and Joe Smith of @Wassbasketball tell ESPN. pic.twitter.com/mDm6hZTosm

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 18, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:02 (one month ago) link

seems like an overpay idk

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:13 (one month ago) link

since it was announced by the agents i wonder how much of that money is in “unlikely guarantees”

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:15 (one month ago) link

the NBA shifting towards NFL style contract announcements of fake numbers to make agents and players look better is not pleasing to me

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:16 (one month ago) link

think they can only do 15% max in incentives, anyway is there any evidence hes a good player

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:18 (one month ago) link

that will be an overpay if hunter is who he’s mostly been the last few years (not a good player and always hurt) but won’t be if he’s the player he’s been in flashes. also if the cap dynamics change the way everyone is saying then it prob won’t be an overpay either way but after the received wisdom of the cap spike year turned out to be disastrously wrong for just about every single contract signed that summer i’m not taking this stuff about the new CBA on blind faith

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:19 (one month ago) link

hunter reminds me of RJ barrett where even when he’s having great games it just don’t feel like he has a dominant gear he can shift to

he did average 21 ppg on 56/46/80 shooting in round 1 last playoffs but it did feel like he was on a bit of a heater. he also doesn’t do anything else with the ball (4 rpg and an assist to TO ratio that was way underwater)

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:23 (one month ago) link

if he had been drafted 11th or whatever they wouldnt be giving him this deal, throwing good money after bad

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:24 (one month ago) link

totally forgot they traded up to get him lol, perfect guy to wait til 8th to see if hes still there

The Hawks traded up to acquire Hunter in the draft, making a deal with the Pelicans to move up from the eighth pick to the fourth selection to grab the former University of Virginia star.

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:32 (one month ago) link

you dont see the celtics throwing big money at grant williams no theyre saying hey buddy youve been great take this midlevel type deal, or at least i assume thats what theyre doing since they didnt agree to an extension lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:41 (one month ago) link

they're pretty fucked if he just stays this bad so i guess you roll the dice on him getting good and earning this, but it's just annoying that he has never like, done anything of note

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:42 (one month ago) link

this is how you deal with guys who have been pretty good okay nothing that special

No rookie extension deals for Phoenix's Cam Johnson, Charlotte's P.J. Washington or Boston's Grant Williams -- all headed to restricted free agency next summer, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 17, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:44 (one month ago) link

is someone going to swoop in with a godfather offer for dandre hunter next year i dont think so

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:45 (one month ago) link

yeah the idea of him getting much more than that extension is a fantasy, at his absolute best he's a high-end role player

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:48 (one month ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/uSmAZXm.png

this looks ridiculous to me when you throw hunter's extension in there but i guess atlanta has talked themselves into thinking they're realass contenders

per Ham (Clay), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:49 (one month ago) link

i mean they do have a bunch of guys but on the other hand its hard to love it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:53 (one month ago) link

capela or collins will get moved

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:58 (one month ago) link

i think moving collins was part of the plan all along except that no one really wants him too much

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 01:00 (one month ago) link

Weird team, could be fun tho

Spottie, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 01:02 (one month ago) link

I said it would be difficult to overpay on a rookie extension this year. I did not say it would be impossible. https://t.co/GLjnZHV0dp

— John Hollinger (@johnhollinger) October 18, 2022

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 18 October 2022 01:10 (one month ago) link

hahaha hollinger

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 01:35 (one month ago) link

an all time bad offseason for the hornets

James Bouknight was arrested on Oct. 16 for driving while impaired

He was most recently charged with reckless driving to endanger on Oct. 10, reckless driving-wanton disregard on Nov. 11, 2021, and again on Feb. 23, 2022, via https://t.co/8fxANs4mkO pic.twitter.com/8b13dRLpYw

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) October 17, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 18:45 (one month ago) link

yikes he needs to go to treatment not play basketball

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 18:46 (one month ago) link

On top of everything else, Charlotte FO does not seem to be the best judge of character/who is in a good place to help their basketball team uh play basketball

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 19:09 (one month ago) link

he needs a driver ffs

k3vin k., Tuesday, 18 October 2022 19:09 (one month ago) link

big honey is a national treasure

Nikola Jokic, on his excitement of playing with Jamal Murray again: “I love to play with him, of course. I know he’s gonna be really bad for the next 20 games, but we’re gonna survive.”

— Mike Singer (@msinger) October 18, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 20:28 (one month ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 20:29 (one month ago) link


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