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russell westbrook in his lakers debut!
8-5-4-0-0, 4/13, -23
including an uncontested layup and an “assist” in garbage time

hear me out what if brodie washed

Thing is… he can’t really stat pad on this team. Feel like his numbers are gonna take a pretty big hit on this team

we have two years of history now where westbrook changed teams and was basically god awful for like 3 months before figuring it out and being pretty good for the rest of the season, so we’ll see. the lakers for real have no shooting tho

lamelo 7/9 from 3

i think maybe in like 4 years i’ll come to accept that he’s a good 3 point shooter

jokic 32-16-7-3-1 with 6 turnovers, leading the nuggets in every category

lebron 9 threes to 4 free throws and 2 rebounds tonight. he’s just saving his body right…

Avery became the 11th player in NBA history to not record a counting stat in at least 20 Minutes of play, he was just running around 😂 (via Joey Linn) pic.twitter.com/o4qZN8bq8q

— Statline - Basketball & NBA News (@statline_) October 23, 2021

I would say that even I could pull off that stat line in the NBA but there's no way I'd last 21 minutes out there

lol yes, a civilian would get posted up and bodied and carried out in less than five

30-7 and 32-9 in back to back games for miles bridges. did not think he'd reach this level as a scorer. he's a really good small ball player

yeah his development has been very good

cole anthony 29-16-8

i checked that rebound number on two two sites btw

jalen green scored 30 points in his 3rd nba game hes 19 years old

seems p good

steven adams first three games as a grizzly

8-14-3
17-9-5
14-16-6

maybe there’s something wrong in new orleans, hard to tell

wow big nums m8

It's not exactly a stat, but I don't know what other thread it fits in. On the 75th anniversary list of the "75 best players of all time" the NBA announced, Dame Lillard was the youngest player to make the list. Hey-oo!

*anthony davis is 3 years younger than damian and made the list

I was misinformed -- by a local sports writer.

dwight has a better resume than them both but everyones kind of forgotten about that due to reasons

it boils down to all the voters didn't want to vote for dwight bc everyone hates dwight

how i break it down to an extent

yah dwight is prob a top 50 player honestly. but lol at his exclusion

dwight has a better resume than them both but everyones kind of forgotten about that due to reasons

― lag∞n, Monday, October 25, 2021 6:16 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

dwight is easily the most egregious snub, don’t really have an opinion about the 50s wites but the first guy I’d probably leave off is reggie miller

they just kept the top 50 from last time so it was really a 25 (26) list of new guys

reggie is v impt for 90s hoop history imo

sure I mean lots of guys are important

reggie belongs on the list imo if he played in the current era his stats would be crazy. you could make not just the historical figure argument (which i think is important — you can’t tell a history of 90s nba without him, which is true of john starks too but reggie’s skill level rises to a certain level) but also that he was a player ahead of his time who predicted where the game would go

he was such an amazing heal too, another guy whos ruined his legacy

Reggie hit an absolutely *insane* amount of threes for his era, it’s really hard to believe in retrospect

the og hoister. i really would think much more highly of him had he never broadcasted

prob woulda had a chip or two had the malice @ the palace not happened

isn’t the problem with dwight not just that ppl don’t like him but that his peak was actually pretty short? he was done as an elite player at age 29, for an all time great player to not have any impact into their 30s is pretty rare. does anyone remember what team dwight was on when he was 31 years old? (the hawks). if you go by all star game selections his 8 put him in the 50s on that list — same as dikembe
mutumbo & vince carter but also steve nash & dave cowens. he prob should’ve been on the 75 list but him falling off a cliff as a player at a time when most elite guys still have 5 years of great basketball left isn’t really anyone else’s fault

isn’t that mostly due to injuries though? his back just stopped cooperating iirc

mcgradys another guy like that

well dwight never really developed any actual skills and once him posting up stopped becoming even halfway useful he kinda became a zero on offense. he’s definitely one of the 75 best athletes in NBA history. probably one of the 75 best players too. but he was a beast for only like 5-6 years when he was at his athletic peak. once he left orlando he wasn’t the same, could still get lots of rebounds i guess

he's sustained a nice role player role and got a chip.

came outta high school and was pretty quickly impactful, not the shortest of peaks but for sure robbed of prime years with the back injury

this is a really strong resume
https://i.imgur.com/E2OAtyF.png

he's sustained a nice role player role and got a chip.

he was the 2nd best player in the league for a while

dragged an orlando team that had absolutely no business to the finals

all while subsisting entirely on skittles

objection your honor
― J0rdan S., Monday, October 25, 2021 5:27 PM (forty-seven seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think i just expected him to be out of the league soon after his hawks stint?

hoping he will tear apart the lakers from the inside this time tho.

if you go by all star game selections his 8 put him in the 50s on that list

5 of which are first team, which puts him in the 20s, even more impressive considering there’s only 1 center spot. an open and shut case if you ask me

I see the argument for reggie for sure but the nature of a list like this is lots of good and important players are going to be left off. as I alluded to the real answer for who to leave off would be some guy from the 50s or whatever but it’s so hard to compare those early guys to guys from today. apparently the voters felt the same way because everyone seemed to just grandfather the old list in

other than dwight tho there probably isn’t an obvious snub out of current players. simmons voted for luka and jokic, which you can definitely make the case for either way. lowe apparently voted for iguodala, which…

they literally grandfathered the old list in, only voted on the new guys

well the big teams *did* band together to do that but then their fans responded by doing stuff like breaking into the stadium and lighting things on fire. another difference between english and american fans

that was to replace the champions league

basically a champions league where the current big teams got guaranteed invites every year which is the part the fans didnt like, what im proposing is a league not a tourney and it has promotion/relegation from big the national leagues

so it supersedes the premiere league la liga etc

yeah but i think people rightly saw it as putting the sport on a track towards what you describe. english soccer fans weren’t rioting bcuz they were protective of the champions league it was bcuz they thought the super league was a death sentence for the concept of the sport being based around leagues in individual countries

if the leaders of european soccer could make decisions w/o any repercussions from public opinion i think they would love to do what you are proposing

as a fan of nba hoops, my interest in the structure and politics of european soccer extends exactly as far as my interest in soil conservation efforts in Lithuania.

jordan making up a guy to agree with soccer owners

making up soccer owners to agree with a guy? making up what people were mad at? idk something like that

wait idk what you’re saying… that the idea of the rioter is a strawman? there were actual protests in england that basically killed the super league there and across europe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Old_Trafford_protests

i’m speculating on their motives i guess but man u misses the champions league all the time their fans should’ve been ecstatic to be granted a yearly free pass into the most prestigious european tournament. what they were reacting against was something more existential to the nature of soccer i think that’s an entirely fair and accurate thing to say

is that what you said

i think people rightly saw it as putting the sport on a track towards what you describe. english soccer fans weren’t rioting bcuz they were protective of the champions league it was bcuz they thought the super league was a death sentence for the concept of the sport being based around leagues in individual countries

"a death sentence for the concept of the sport being based around leagues in individual countries" and "something more existential to the nature of soccer" are not synonymous statements, and in this case the first one doesnt really make sense since it was an international competition anyway

furthermore the free pass was exactly the crux of the issue it was a powerplay by the top teams, rather than having to compete on a level playing field in the context of a unbiased league the top teams just wanted to own the competition, which very much does represent an existential threat to how the game is organized

whereas my model is just another layer on the already existing unbiased league system, it doesnt offer the top teams the power they want, they still have to go out there and win just like everyone else

which is not to say that soccers fans wouldnt hate it, im sure they would, but i dont care its a good idea, its for the good of the game and they have to do it

ok maybe our wires are crossed here im not talking about your idea if that’s what you think im referring to as an “existential threat.” i’m talking about the actual super league that was formed and then dissolved

"a death sentence for the concept of the sport being based around leagues in individual countries" and "something more existential to the nature of soccer" are not synonymous statements

if the leaders of european soccer could make decisions w/o any repercussions from public opinion i think they would love to do what you are proposing

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Saturday, April 6, 2024 4:06 PM (fifty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

ok maybe our wires are crossed here im not talking about your idea if that’s what you think im referring to as an “existential threat.”

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Saturday, April 6, 2024 4:52 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

we know what the owners love

Embiid 30/12 in 23 minutes.

sixers 3-0 since his return

seems like a valuable guy. but is he the MOST valuable…

Domantas Sabonis' all-important double-double streak has ended with an 8-point, 13-rebound, 5-assist performance in the loss to OKC.

— Nate Duncan (@NateDuncanNBA) April 10, 2024

With that 54th win, Chris Finch has won more games in 1 season than 10 Wolves coaches did in their whole tenure 🐺

— Jimmy Knutson (@JimmyKnutson) April 8, 2024

celtics first team to not shoot a free throw in a game

bucks shot 2! 2 fts whole game

refs are booking their vacations lol

two records last night:

-celtics 0 FTA for a full game (apparently the bucks only had 2fta as well)

- Warriors highest 3P% for a game with minimum 40 attempts (26/41 for 63.4%)
(dray klay steph all hit at least 5 3s for the first time in like 8 years)

The first player in NBA history to record

10+ rebounds
10+ assists
0 field goal attempts
0 free throw attempts

in a game. pic.twitter.com/zgKvC2xQ37

— StatMuse (@statmuse) April 13, 2024

Coulda like.. used some points tho bro

lol what the heck

There was one point late in the game where the Pels were in rotation and Dray was wide open at the top of the key for a three. Dyson Daniels was supposed to rotate to Dray, but he didn’t even bother, just went to cover the next pass.

the pacers are the first team to have 10,000 points and 2,500 assists in a season

Every player who's finished top 5 in NBA MVP voting this century, in one chart 👇 pic.twitter.com/y3NT63eQIO

— Lev Akabas (@LevAkabas) May 9, 2024

this is a cool way of looking at it

In best-of-seven series since the playoffs expanded to 16 teams in 1984, teams that lose the first two games of the series at home are 4-20 (.167) -- with the exception of the 2020 bubble. That's more than twice the winning percentage of teams that lose the first two games on the road (19-218, .080), arguing against the conventional wisdom that a series doesn't begin until a home team loss.

thats interesting makes sense that being the better regular season team holds more weight than home court especially considering a good chunk of those teams thatre down on the road had no hope to begin with

ya and you do get game 7 at home too

Since 1984 NBA teams in best-of-seven series—

Falling behind 2-0 at home: 4-22

Falling behind 2-0 at home then winning Game 3: 4-8

Falling behind 2-0 at home then winning Games 3 and 4: 4-2 https://t.co/avtjo5owM3

— Jake Shapiro (@Shapalicious) May 11, 2024

up to 33%

gotta get the next one

anyone following this jordan stocks story?

It's not that Michael Jordan had more steals at home. That's common.

It's the sheer magnitude of the home/road gap that caught my eye and launched my deep dive. The full report: https://t.co/Hj3TeIsRk6 pic.twitter.com/UPShOi2JV2

— Tom Haberstroh (@tomhaberstroh) June 21, 2024

bulls cooked the books

heh

It’s important to note that after winning the Defensive Player of the Year award, Jordan’s home rates returned to normal and within the same range of his peers. Jordan would never even approach the 1987-88 home stats for the rest of his career, an outlier of outliers.

didnt eve get a trophy out of it, sad

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/4poolWMQq4_O2DX7QN837g--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTI0MDA7aD0xNjE2O2NmPXdlYnA-/https://s.yimg.com/os/creatr-uploaded-images/2024-06/14d931f0-285e-11ef-bfe6-ae4e7eec1f6b

have that story in my bookmarks but seems juicy, the kind of content we need in the offs (eason)

crazy it took 30 years to expose mj as a false god

have not read the piece in question but this is an amazing stat

Next time you hear that Zach LaVine is a losing player, consider this: 72 of his 101 teammates are completely out of the league.

Why the narratives about LaVine have grown totally out of control, and what I'd do if I were the Bulls: https://t.co/C41815NXNo

— Steph Noh (@StephNoh) July 8, 2024

legit question - how does that compare to other guys with his tenure?

list of teammates hes played most with here, not like its full of awful players but def noticeably lacking in top tier guys https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Zach-LaVine/Teammates/41396

43 games with kg

maybe he's the reason his teammates no longer loved the game