2021-22 NBA "REGULAR" SEASON THREAD

Memphis is just steamrolling the league of late

yeah they're abusing the lakers right now and acting like it's business as usual

six in a row for the mavs now

mavs defense looks pretty tight of late

also sinking threes at will

i had a dream about ja morants block

lol

i love the grizz

G im crying these young mogs dont care pic.twitter.com/3rZCBbUXza

— Supreme Pas-Bey (@8EightPillars) January 10, 2022

Desmond Bane pick was a franchise changer for the Grizz

absolutely

JUST IN: NBA stars Klay Thompson and Andre Iguodala will take part of their salaries in the form of Bitcoin

— The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex) January 10, 2022

(carefully marks one demerit each into Iggy and Klay's permanent record file)

i guess that if i were so rich that i no longer needed more money, i might hedge my bets in that way too
it would help if i were also so insulated and isolated by fame and talent that i would never get outside perspective on how fucking stupid crypto looks

i regret to inform you that the bay area billionaires are at it again

hero tried to jokic nurkic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s80TOga4WO8

lol herro is a silly man

he should be fighting his teammate for not calling out the perfectly normal screen

yeah not sure what he thought happened there

nurks hand is the size of herro's head

he booped his nose

nurkic had fouled herro on the preceding play (which was called and he shot FTs). nothing dirty but def was being physical with him. herro just lost his temper

meanwhile, can someone please check on russ

I think my guy is officially broken mentally now pic.twitter.com/bcZ4EZhjSd

— ⚡️ (@TheWestbrookEra) January 10, 2022

thats how hes done every presser for the last like 8 years

i guess, maybe it's the moment being so bleak that makes that look despondent

just an all-time weirdo being weird

in case you missed it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lQBUcCQJ0M

cp3 finally turned up at #30 on that athletic top 75 countdown. stays underrated

stays underrated

There are players who excel at the game and there are players who revolutionize the game. CP3 excels at hoops, but he has not influenced the way the game is played. Considering the number of excellent players with very long careers means he has plenty of competition for a spot on that list. And the true revolutionaries, like Wilt, Big O, Maravich, or Steph belong in all the top spots. 30 is pretty damn good, considering.

fwiw Maravich was #73 of 75 on the same list

i was gonna say that you must be being sarcastic if you think chris paul should be among the top 25 players in the history of the nba

when it comes to comparing players across 75 years of hoops, opinions are all over the place. I like mine.

whether someone is “revolutionary” (what?) is at best in the eye of the beholder and not really relevant to their place on an all time list. cp3’s peak was MVP-level and his continued all-NBA play into his age 36 season has been done by only a handful of inner-circle all time greats, which is his company. the playoff stuff is passé at this juncture, obviously. the overall conversation around his reputation has gotten a bit more informed in the past year or so (unsurprisingly since he made his first finals) which is nice to see

where do you put him alltime, ballpark

at most three point guards ahead of him (magic, oscar, steph)

prob 20th or so, out of his contemporaries only behind lebron, KD, duncan, steph, giannis, kobe, and wade, probably passing guys like garnett and dirk, and just as a personal judgment call ahead of various guys who were good when there were like 12 teams and they played the finals on tape delay

it will come down to how you value peak vs longevity tho which there is no real agreed upon way to do with basketball, like his total value over his career is going to dwarf some guys we all will agree were better than him (look at B-R’s win shares for one example). also funny that every time they invent a new stat he’s one of the best in it

CP3 is easily a better player than Kobe

Wade as well

total top of my head but tell me who you would pull from this 25 to put in chris paul: jordan, magic, bird, kareem, wilt, duncan, david robinson, russell, shaq, kobe, giannis, durant, wade, curry, oscar robertson, moses malone, karl malone, stockton, olajuwan, pippen, elgin baylor, dr j, iverson, rodman, isaiah

okay xp nevermind then, we're disagreeing here

you can make reasonable arguments for both sides on both of those guys imo, just will be a tough fight due to ring disparity

i like chris paul a lot but i don't think that he's a better player than wade or kobe or even kyrie

likely a better teammate than the latter two

lmao yeah cp3 is better than kyrie

kyrie is not even in the same conversation man, completely different caliber of player

honestly never heard someone rate kyrie, the world is full of wonders

it’s sad how cp3’s early career is forgotten these days. personal stuff aside kyrie is an incredible player, has the rare ability to make people look silly with his handle quickness and footwork on a regular basis…pre-knee injury, paul did alla that AND led the league in assists and steals

not to mention one of them was one of the best defenders and the other one of the worst

i think chris paul is better than both isiah thomas and kyrie. him & isiah are pretty similar, i think cp3 is just more talented overall, better shooter w/o a doubt, pretty similar in terms of passing, rebounding, defending etc.

he's just a better overall basketball player than kyrie. kyrie got lucky to play w/ lebron in his prime -- he put up insane games when they won the title so it's no shade at him but i don't think it's controversial at all to say that we're looking at kyrie's career completely differently if lebron never returns to cleveland. prob not a guy who has ever played in the NBA finals or come close to it. dude is insane ballhandler, offensive player and scorer, but he's not on chris paul's level as a player.

when you start putting paul up against guys like kobe, wade, dirk, garnett... it's much more eye of the beholder. if you put chris paul over those guys it's more of a longevity and holistic basketball argument. in terms of peak greatness, the ability to score the ball at will, really push a team to the top of the mountain in the playoffs via sheer ability to get the ball into the basket (excluding KG here), those guys are better than chris paul. i can see it either way. i think he prob belongs in the same tier as those guys more or less. i would prob take the peak versions of all those guys over the peak versions of cp3... give me the guys who are putting up 30/6/5 (wade and kobe) over the over the 22/5/11 of chris paul. but that's just personal preference. obv the advanced stats & things like that value efficiency and across the board contributions more than what i'm talking about.

i'll cop to some recency bias and to paul's glory years coming a time when i was paying less attention to the game

lol

you have to give it to cp3 over isiah just for the longevity, theyre pretty similar players but paul did it for twice as long