2021-22 NBA "REGULAR" SEASON THREAD

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so scratching around for an excuse to fire olshey was more penny pinching


i did say in my post that there was likely cause for firing olshey (a guy I have never liked personally! thought he was a bad GM and a bad guy! dozens of posts about this over the years!) but I’m pretty sure you can just fire a GM for whatever whenever, the new regime made a public deal of destroying the guy so he couldn’t sue for the rest of his contract. Probably valid! But also weird corporate behavior!

agreed that he was making $10m/year is crazy town

Clay, Monday, 6 December 2021 14:38 (two years ago) link

with curry and maxey playing well i'm not sure why cj would be all that appealing to the sixers.

― call all destroyer, Monday, December 6, 2021 9:36 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

They need a wing to push Green/Thybulle to the bench, though maxey has regressed a bit since Embiid came back. I would probably do this regardless if there were picks coming back.

hocus pocus, alakazam (PBKR), Monday, 6 December 2021 14:50 (two years ago) link

if that piece is trying to push a narrative that olshey screwed up by not trading CJ for simmons it just feels like leaking coming from portland and/or dame’s side bcuz there’s never been any indication privately or publicly that the sixers were willing to trade simmons for a player of CJ’s caliber

J0rdan S., Monday, 6 December 2021 15:01 (two years ago) link

yep

call all destroyer, Monday, 6 December 2021 15:03 (two years ago) link

it did say that the sixers demanded much more in return but maybe their price will drop

lag∞n, Monday, 6 December 2021 15:04 (two years ago) link

with curry and maxey playing well i'm not sure why cj would be all that appealing to the sixers.

― call all destroyer, Monday, December 6, 2021 9:36 AM (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

hes better than them, an irl shot creator, the type of player the sixers have been lacking forever, would be tough to play him and curry together from a defensive perspective tho

lag∞n, Monday, 6 December 2021 15:10 (two years ago) link

"And in recent weeks, sources say Lillard has grown frustrated with the team’s play and tension appears to be on the rise between the players and Billups.”

Spottie, Monday, 6 December 2021 15:41 (two years ago) link

really weird that they were so insistent on hiring billups

lag∞n, Monday, 6 December 2021 15:50 (two years ago) link

Billups is a former NBA champion, longtime respected player and formed a friendship with Lillard before taking the Portland job. But Lillard made it clear during the coaching search that he preferred a head coach who had done this job before; at the time, Lillard was open to partnering with veteran coach Mike D’Antoni or Kidd.

lag∞n, Monday, 6 December 2021 16:08 (two years ago) link

rockets 6 Ws in a row somehow

Spottie, Monday, 6 December 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

theyre def not letting wall play now

lag∞n, Monday, 6 December 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

(or jalen)

Spottie, Monday, 6 December 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link

jalen i dont think is nearly a winning player yet but that could change

lag∞n, Monday, 6 December 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link

yeah just funny theyre doing this without him. most rookies are bad

Spottie, Monday, 6 December 2021 18:07 (two years ago) link

plethora of options and nbatv is showing pistons vs okc tonight lol

Spottie, Monday, 6 December 2021 22:49 (two years ago) link

grizz just smashed it out of the park with the desmond bane pick/development. looks like he should've been a top 10 pick in that draft, went 30th

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 December 2021 01:10 (two years ago) link

i remember a lot of draft people advocating for him to go in the teens at least and they're looking pretty good

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 01:26 (two years ago) link

dude is built like a pro bowl outside linebacker and is shooting 40% from three on 6 attempts per game and can handle the ball

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 December 2021 01:28 (two years ago) link

Def a steal. Grizz have some cool players

Spottie, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 01:33 (two years ago) link

love the griz

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 01:34 (two years ago) link

Bane has a great attitude too

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 02:08 (two years ago) link

You all ignored me when I was asking about that dude in the preseason. He looked like the real deal from the get go

Heez, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 02:10 (two years ago) link

its his second season

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 02:12 (two years ago) link

from the get go..... of this season

Heez, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 02:13 (two years ago) link

naturally

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 02:14 (two years ago) link

Sorry heez. It’s now noted that you are leading the ilh bane fan club

Spottie, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 02:43 (two years ago) link

Thanks all I feel vindicated. Gonna sleep well tonight

Heez, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 03:13 (two years ago) link

Sources: The Indiana Pacers are moving toward rebuild, receptive to trade talks centered on Caris LeVert and either Domantas Sabonis or Myles Turner.

Story with @bkravitz at @TheAthletic: https://t.co/2bGjubFtWe

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) December 7, 2021

warriors might want to think about sabonis

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 17:59 (two years ago) link

cade is heating up

Guys, Cade is here. Cunningham dropped 28/11/5 tonight in DET’s loss to OKC. He played good defense, too.

He’s averaging 17 points, 8 rebounds, 6 assists on 42/35/78 over his last 11. Looks like he’s exactly what we expected after a quick adjustment period post-ankle injury. pic.twitter.com/mWpkWd3YI0

— Sam Vecenie (@Sam_Vecenie) December 7, 2021

Spottie, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:04 (two years ago) link

exactly what we expected except for shorter

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link

seems like hell be very good, especially if they just play him at the 1 then he is quite tall

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link

i think turner might be a better fit xps

Spottie, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:06 (two years ago) link

idk i think sabonis has the warriors mindtype ie a guy who thinks quick and is generally just an all around skilled basketball player, obvs klay could change things but i dont really believe in the warrios offense even though theyre playing lights out right now if you look at the roster its just not an elite offensive roster talent wise, danger of it falling apart in the offs imo, but with sabonis... and klay could be pretty unstoppable

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:13 (two years ago) link

in the minutes that matter the most the warriors are only going to play one big man which is all they've ever done so not sure giving a bunch of stuff up to get another center really makes sense

trading wiseman or kuminga for levert would be interesting tho

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:17 (two years ago) link

I forget, can the Pacers now trade Brogdon or not for the remainder of the year?

hocus pocus, alakazam (PBKR), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link

noy

micah, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link

not

micah, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/UnVRt64.png

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link

xp thanks

hocus pocus, alakazam (PBKR), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link

in the minutes that matter the most the warriors are only going to play one big man which is all they've ever done so not sure giving a bunch of stuff up to get another center really makes sense

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, December 7, 2021 1:17 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

all their big men except dray have been... not that good, sabonis is a totally different type of player, his 3pt shooting is pretty rough tho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:24 (two years ago) link

yeah i get his fit with how the warriors want to play but him and draymond together on offense i can't really see

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:31 (two years ago) link

their top 7 players in minutes are draymond, steph and then 5 wing players. you're not trading for sabonis to play him 17 mpg which is what looney is playing right now. i think they can upgrade on their roster no doubt but if it's going to be someone w/ legit value like sabonis you have to be able play him 30 mpg and that's not going to happen in their system w/ a big man who isn't draymond

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:33 (two years ago) link

they could stagger him and dray some, if he has to sit sometimes at the end of games so be it, getting a player of that quality for guys who arent really contributing is pretty good, i mean turner and lavert maybe fit better but theyre just not as good, and i dont think makes much sense just extrapolating loonys minutes, i mean loony doesnt play much because hes not that good at basketball

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:36 (two years ago) link

fundamentally systems should fit players not the other way around and if you can add a good player then you figure it out, tho him and dray both being bad shooters is a problem def, still sabonis is a legit baller thats the most important thing

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:38 (two years ago) link

and maybe as more of a complimentary player sabonis gets good enough 3pt looks that hes fine

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:39 (two years ago) link

id say turner and sabonis have similar value, but for completely different reasons and depending on fit. levert... not really sure he's that good honestly.

Spottie, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:40 (two years ago) link

i think turner is one of those guys thats exploitable cause most of his value is rim protection so you just go small and pull him away from the basket where he doesnt really move well, he can shoot some but he has a slow release and doesnt have any ability to attack the close out which is pretty defendable for a prepared team, i think hed end up being a disappointment in the playoffs

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:43 (two years ago) link

fundamentally systems should fit players not the other way around and if you can add a good player then you figure it out, tho him and dray both being bad shooters is a problem def, still sabonis is a legit baller thats the most important thing

― lag∞n, Tuesday, December 7, 2021 1:38 PM (two minutes ago)

we're going back and forth on a hypothetical that will never happen but "fundamentally systems should fit players" makes sense to me unless your system is pairing the best defensive player in the nba with the best offensive player in the nba and then surrounding them with a bunch of competent to good guard and wing role players. it's basically ideal roster construction. upsetting that system to add kevin durant makes sense to me, to add sabonis i don't agree.

i do think tho that the warriors should be looking to upgrade at guard/wing in the event that wiggins turns into a pumpkin, porter or iggy get hurt/look old, poole and lee have first time playoff struggles etc. no argument there. but their system is in place for a reason.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:45 (two years ago) link

yah its prob all moot anyway joey lightyears is too prideful and wont be trading his draftees

Spottie, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link

i mean if they can get someone who is as good as sabonis but fits better by all means, but can they? prob not, but they def should be looking to turn a young guy or two into a good player by the trade deadline, and if they cant find one thats better they should start thinking about our good friend domantas, i think he would absolutely thrive on the warriors

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link


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