golden state warriors thread

grim stuff

Kerr said that while the Warriors try to clean up their defense and are operating with a smaller margin of error, they will rely more on two-way players Ty Jerome and Anthony Lamb - who Kerr says have a bit more experience - than their young trio of Moody, Kuminga and Wiseman.

— Kendra Andrews (@kendra__andrews) November 9, 2022

def thought ty jerome had a better chance of being out of the league at this point than getting meaningful minutes for the defending champs

Donte coming back this week will help big time and poole simply cant play any worse. so i think this will correct itself a bit but they for sure need some more veteran depth/presence for a long playoff run. meyers interview this week sounds like if things dont shape up they're ready to make moves

poole simply cant play any worse.

he doesn't have to and no one's asking him to. but that isn't the issue, is it?

No he’s not thee issue but his play is not helping and it’s showing the team he can’t run the second unit as the lead guy, at least not with this mix. He’s so much better as a starter next to curry so I bet they’ll mix those minutes a bit more

right time in the season to fuck around and see with the lineup i suppose; would still be shocked if the warriors ended up in the playins

nekias on wiseman
https://www.basketballnews.com/stories/a-james-wisemanwarriors-split-would-be-best-for-both-parties

Tangent:

we're all waiting on Jordan Poole to regain his form (53.5% True Shooting, 59.8% TS last season) and confidence

What if last year was a fluke and this is the real JP.

he had a lot of room to operate last year and was doing wild stuff, conditions not as favorable rn

klay was out he was cooking. but he also cooked in the playoffs in limited minutes. he had a cold spell last season as well. klay always does too. they'll both get better from here.

also the carrying calls are messing with him you can tell.

not being able to carry does make it harder

he should stop worrying about carrying the ball in his palm and think about carrying christ in his heart. just one person's opinion

lol i pray for our brother poole to see the light

A+ win tonight. Defense looked incredible and they got completely jobbed by the refs and still got a W. I haven’t been this angry at a reffing game in years lol. Getting a w despite that is the best feeling tho. Steph still the goat obv.

Steph Curry with the CLUTCH look-away triple for the tie! 😱pic.twitter.com/QwPCi4RFhM

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) November 12, 2022

poole was COOKING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBYkbp8ukTo

Is this a Dray starting rather than DLee situation where Poole should start over Klay ?

i dont think its gonna happen but its something to think about for sure, at least until klay gets to form (whatever the top end of his form is now)

Yes this needs to happen - I think it will by the end of the season if Klay doesn't improve on both ends of the floor significantly

Or ... and hear me out, Klay is traded. His contract is Westbrook levels bad if continues to play like this - he's slated to make over 40+ million next year. Drop him and a pick or three to a team and then resign Dray and have Poole start.

I know it feels like sacrilege to break up the Splash Bros but it's better now than end of next year.

if theyre going to make a trade they need to get better, moving a first to dump a contract is basically giving up on this team

Klays not going anywhere. He did enough in th playoffs to show he’s still impactful.

I could just see Klay not accepting a bench role and pouting, affecting performance. I could see them ditching him for maybe a decent veteran depth piece then. I do feel nostalgia might get in the way of winning with these guys.

Also Klay's pride has been almost blinding lately. If the team is better with Poole starting now, he needs to accept that ASAP and get over himself

starting poole prob isnt worth the drama, now giving poole some of klays minutes could be worth looking into

Only a matter of time: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/35030343/warriors-james-wiseman-heads-g-league-extended-stint

hard to know with klay. hes never had the spotlight on him so even during his monthlong shooting slumps in the past or playing poorly in playoff games he usually escaped any scrutiny. but they arent winning right now and he keeps hoisting with no conscious. pretty much every other big player on the team has sacrificed or done something for the greater good of the team. i think it would be an easier sell than you think IF his poor play continues on into 2023. but who knows. hes earned enough good will to have a long rope and thats ok. where he is right now is where i thought hed be when he came back last season. so even if his max is what he showed in the playoffs/finals... its enough.

pooles gonna get his minutes regardless but he seems to be so much more aggressive playing as a starter. he might also need to suck it up and figure it out coming off the bench. also needs to get himself to a passable place on defense so he can be trusted at the end of games. klay is leagues beyond him in that regard even tho hes not what he was.

wiseman breakup is likely but the hope im sure is that he figures it out in the g league like poole did

also no one is leaving klay open and he still warps defenses with movement. thats still important even if he's not shooting his normal percentages atm.

Via @__adel11 (since I can’t rt) ….

Warriors since taking Wiseman out the rotation:
4 Games
4th in DefRTG
8th in OffRTG
2nd in NetRTG

3-1 record

— Andre (@OnBallSteph) November 15, 2022

oof lol

could have kept GPIII and traded Wiseman for picks

gp2 and prob otto too

idk who was taking wiseman for any kind of value, he’s often unavailable and doesn’t know how to play

Klay is the slumpiest great shooter of all time but a lot of wear on the tread now

gp2

lol my bad off by 1

idk who was taking wiseman for any kind of value, he’s often unavailable and doesn’t know how to play

Poole 0 shots made wtf

against top 10 offenses, warriors are third best in quality of shots allowed and *25th* in actual eFG allowed. insane shooting they're facing pic.twitter.com/K8SEkmoZL8

— doctor elon musk (parody) (@imisstheoldkyle) November 17, 2022

Per @statmuse, Steph Curry's currently having the most efficient 30+ PPG season in NBA history on a per-possession basis.

Essentially, a Steph shot is worth more than anyone's ever! pic.twitter.com/mGN45hRjVb

— mathketball (@Mathketball1) November 17, 2022

rest of the dubs are getting blinded by the steph light

that top three in shot location quality is just not that correlated with actual shot defense, its nice to force teams to take the bad shots but you have to get good contests too, if guys are just stepping into good 17 footers or whatever its not that great

no but it kinda matches the eye test. the defense is pretty bad right now but stuff like payne and bridges hitting 11/18 from three has been happening. theyre also getting killed on the glass and no one seems particularly locked in.

celtics d has picked up but at the very beginning of the season they were sucking while using shot location defense to uh defend themselves but watching them they just werent playing with intensity, the scheme was good but there just wasnt enough dog in the execution, think they were last in steals too, just not gonna get the job done

Klay's best game since the injuries! 41 pts, 10-13 from three including a couple clutch shots.

Was great last game as well. The team meeting seems to have got everyone on a similar page.

Also lmao this guy

Rockets Bench 😭 pic.twitter.com/BSyXgPSBEU

— warriorsworld (@warriorsworld) November 21, 2022

The vibes are back

The refs called a tech on Draymond for celebrating on the bench.

So the next play, Steph got a tech of his own in solidarity by intentionally overdoing a celebration 😂
pic.twitter.com/6kAQyqzUsU

— Guru (@DrGuru_) November 27, 2022

lol

new rule against xtreme bench celebrations is so bad they shouldve just drawn a dashed line between the bench and the sideline and been like dont cross this and it would solved the only problem which was guys standing too close to the court, bench celebrations are fun everyone likes them

It’s a dumb rule I don’t expect to stick around. Like sorry if you have 5-10k to sit right behind the players then that’s what you signed up for deal w it