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fans of teams always assume they will improve "a bunch" from one year to the next. i think it's just as reasonable to point to the vast swaths of NBA history where teams had non-linear and quite tumultuous journeys to success and argue that the team that lost more games than it won in the playoffs and had a negative point differential may still encounter a series of tribulations over the next few seasons before ascending to the top of the mountain.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 27 September 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

the book on jamal murray was that he was a really talented scorer whose play could ping wildly between peaks and valleys depending on the night. perhaps coincidentally, perhaps not, he managed to play a consistent string of basketball in the year where there was no travel, no road games, and no fans.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 27 September 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

Jord they were a top 3 seed in the west for two straight years and made the conference finals

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 27 September 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link

They also have a massive home court advantage which they couldn’t utilize at all

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 27 September 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link

This is gonna be like the 2011 nba draft isn’t it

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 27 September 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link

jokic had great playoffs last two years too proving their best guy can "step up when it matters the most (in the playoffs)"

lag∞n, Sunday, 27 September 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link

having said that yeah the climb to the top of the mountain (mount nba) is fraught and can be derailed by all sorts of things, but id def put the nugs amongst the teams that are best positioned 4 success

lag∞n, Sunday, 27 September 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link

oh i think the nuggets will continue to be a very good regular season team. they're very young and have one of the best regular season home court advantages in the league. i don't think their seed is going to fall. but when it comes to playoff basketball (the real kind) i still put them behind the LA teams and the warriors, in a group w/ dallas and utah. i would prob but houston a tier below that and then everyone else behind them.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 27 September 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link

if the nuggets can get the 2 seed next year they'll be well positioned, bcuz just outlining it like that it feels like there's a real drop off after the top 6. i would favor denver w/ home court over houston and any of those other teams. but the second round is going to be fraught for them next year no matter where they're seeded.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 27 September 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link

either of the LA teams cld easily implode imo theyre good but not dominant, i dont think the warriors will implode but they cld just not be as good anymore

lag∞n, Sunday, 27 September 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link

clippers shd try to trade playoff p for playoff embiid

lag∞n, Sunday, 27 September 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link

warriors shd try and trade the #2 pick + wiggins for... someone

lag∞n, Sunday, 27 September 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

one thing occurs to me the lakers havent played a super active athletic team yet in the playoffs but both teams in the east are that, that one regular season game the celtics just overwhelmed them with that

lag∞n, Sunday, 27 September 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

Happy with the trade now


Minnesota Timberwolves guard Malik Beasley was arrested Saturday and is being held without bail on felony weapons and drug charges in Minneapolis, according to police records.

Beasley, who averaged 20.7 points in 14 games with the Timberwolves after being traded by the Denver Nuggets, is charged with felony controlled substance/narcotics and felony receiving/concealing stolen property, according to Hennepin County Jail records.

Beasley, 23, was arrested after brandishing a gun at someone who then called police, according to sources. After obtaining a search warrant, officers found marijuana and guns in his home in Plymouth, Minnesota, the sources told ESPN.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 27 September 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

davis particularly prefers to play a more deliberate style and can get flustered when teams speed up and swarm, its also the style of play that could make bron show his age or at least just work more than he would like

lag∞n, Sunday, 27 September 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link

yeah vs the heat lebron could play a free safety style defense. butler isn’t dominant enough offensively to demand bron’s full attention and the rest of the heat’s offense comes thru the guards or bam. but against boston they will need him on tatum and brown.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 27 September 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

Sounds like grant wants to stay with Nuggets and hey why not

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 27 September 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

matt, just remember that we're talking about a Minnesota police department who swear they 'found' this stuff.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 27 September 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link

Considering that last off-season Beasley got in a fistfight in an apartment complex lobby I’m gonna say the nuggets made the right call here

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 27 September 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

guys do we think the crowd-noise person has “beat LA” cued up tonight if the heat are running away with it in the 4th?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 27 September 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link

lol yeah def should, too bad we will never know tho...

lag∞n, Sunday, 27 September 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

the murray-harris-mpj-grant-jokic 5 is fucking good at everything imo

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Sunday, 27 September 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link

except defense

Spottie, Sunday, 27 September 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

if you swapped out mpj u cld have a good defensive unit there

lag∞n, Sunday, 27 September 2020 20:35 (three years ago) link

I don’t think he’s saying that all those players are good R everything

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:11 (three years ago) link

I get what he means, it’s a nice balance of skills.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:22 (three years ago) link

yes, they complement each other

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:24 (three years ago) link

fair

Spottie, Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

i think theyre the kind of team that will attract the solid vets that want to get them over the hump.

Spottie, Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:41 (three years ago) link

Lakers are getting timely 3 pt shooting -- I thought it was the bubble but their percentages (around 35%) and attempts (around 32 per game) are similar to the regular season. Guess I'm not used to KCP and Rondo hitting 3s.

that's not my post, Sunday, 27 September 2020 22:16 (three years ago) link

lakers twitter is mad at danny green but...hes been fine in the playoffs. actually better than last year's playoffs with the raps.

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Sunday, 27 September 2020 22:23 (three years ago) link

he had some sick ass blocks last night

Nhex, Sunday, 27 September 2020 22:24 (three years ago) link

New for @TheAthleticNBA : History says the Nuggets won't have an easy time getting back to WCF. A look at a complicated offseason and the choices ahead: https://t.co/t9i1F37AzQ

— John Hollinger (@johnhollinger) September 27, 2020

J0rdan S., Sunday, 27 September 2020 22:33 (three years ago) link

danny green and kcp both have value outside of shooting. playoff rondo is just a strange phenomenon

Spottie, Sunday, 27 September 2020 22:51 (three years ago) link

isnt danny green leading these playoffs in offensive rating or something

micah, Sunday, 27 September 2020 23:38 (three years ago) link

lakers twitter is mad at danny green but...hes been fine in the playoffs. actually better than last year's playoffs with the raps.

― methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Sunday, September 27, 2020 6:23 PM (fifty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

his true shooting is .481 in the offs

(offensive rating is a bad stat)

k3vin k., Monday, 28 September 2020 00:17 (three years ago) link

I take jordan’s point that the west will continue to be too heavy next year and that means that any very good team could be vulnerable, but the fact is that their projected 3 best players next year are 25, 23, and 22. the future is bright

k3vin k., Monday, 28 September 2020 00:19 (three years ago) link

Teams like the rockets and mavs have way more offseason headaches than the nuggets do

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 28 September 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link

nuggets probably have about the same chance of making the conf finals next year, they'll get better but the warriors will presumably be a real team again too

ciderpress, Monday, 28 September 2020 00:28 (three years ago) link

i don’t think the mavs have many difficult decisions, they’re on the 2021 plan.

call all destroyer, Monday, 28 September 2020 00:31 (three years ago) link

outside luka i dont really like the mavs roster

lag∞n, Monday, 28 September 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link

its very much a relic of post-title cuban and co mismanagement and then they made one v smart move in trading two lottery picks for luka that papers over how weirdly theyve rebuilt in the 5 years since they last had a winning record

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Monday, 28 September 2020 01:00 (three years ago) link

his true shooting is .481 in the offs

― k3vin k., Sunday, September 27, 2020 7:17 PM (forty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i was just looking at his 3pt%, but fair point. his ts% is only about 2% lower from last year and its not even in his bottom 3 playoff ts%. this is just who icyhot is.

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Monday, 28 September 2020 01:04 (three years ago) link

i think bam or butler need to be the best player in this half for the heat to win, it’s been tatum for 2.5 games. admittedly didn’t see the group economics onslaught coming.

J0rdan S., Monday, 28 September 2020 01:19 (three years ago) link

it's Bam

frogbs, Monday, 28 September 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link

celtics ran out of gas

ciderpress, Monday, 28 September 2020 01:59 (three years ago) link

they should switch to renewables

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Monday, 28 September 2020 02:01 (three years ago) link

welp heat destroyed the celtics in crunch time all series and so deserved to win

lag∞n, Monday, 28 September 2020 02:03 (three years ago) link

...beat la...

lag∞n, Monday, 28 September 2020 02:04 (three years ago) link

never knew i was a dyed in the wool heat fan but here we are

Clay, Monday, 28 September 2020 02:06 (three years ago) link


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