thread of luka doncic

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averaging 26.7, 10.3, and 9.5 on .605 true shooting through 6 games

I can think of...maybe 3 players whose next 3 years I would take over luka’s

he‘ll be 21 in 4 months

k3vin k., Monday, 4 November 2019 15:17 (ten months ago) link

Who was the last guy who was clearly the best player in his age group from 17-21? Even Anthony Davis was a late bloomer.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 4 November 2019 15:32 (ten months ago) link

the list of players 21 or under who had at least 20% usage and a PER of >25 is jordan, magic, lebron, shaq, KD, anthony davis, KAT, jokic, and luka

k3vin k., Monday, 4 November 2019 15:51 (ten months ago) link

the players I’m pretty sure are better than luka doncic right now: lebron, davis, giannis, kawhi, harden, curry

k3vin k., Monday, 4 November 2019 16:26 (ten months ago) link

he is v good at basketball. got tix to see him on black friday.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 4 November 2019 16:27 (ten months ago) link

will be proud to say i got to see his first nba game

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 8 November 2019 00:33 (ten months ago) link

im intrigued to see how he and zinger work out. watched a few games of theirs and it looks like zinger is way underused in the final minutes of close games. it should be pnr with him and luka but he ends up just spotting up and someone else runs the pick.. then its just luka time. if they can grow/stay together and stay healthy that could be a killer duo for a while.

he looks to be in way better shape this season which is huge. has a crazy array of ways to make shots.

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 8 November 2019 00:36 (ten months ago) link

is zinger good? I’m honestly not sure

k3vin k., Friday, 8 November 2019 00:57 (ten months ago) link

he's obviously Por

EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 November 2019 00:59 (ten months ago) link

Depends on your definition of good

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 8 November 2019 01:22 (ten months ago) link

he just missed a whole season prob wont know for a while

lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 02:15 (ten months ago) link

feel like even during that one year when he was good he was a really inefficient scorer, surprisingly so for someone of his size and with his skills. I think he is just bad at offense. he is also a really bad rebounder and doesn’t pass. he can block shots good tho

k3vin k., Friday, 8 November 2019 04:39 (ten months ago) link

he's a guy who could have developed out of his bad habits but it's tough to develop when you're always injured

call all destroyer, Friday, 8 November 2019 04:42 (ten months ago) link

he was the whole offense in NY so he should see an uptick in efficiency. his rebounding is so weak and he is def one of the worst black holes in the league. he could be an amazing 2nd best player on a good team just depends if he wants that role or not.

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 8 November 2019 04:44 (ten months ago) link

well he’s not in doncic’s league as a player so he’s gonna have to. and despite this he’s shooting terribly!

k3vin k., Friday, 8 November 2019 05:05 (ten months ago) link

I mean his true shooting is .516, how is that even possible

k3vin k., Friday, 8 November 2019 05:06 (ten months ago) link

cos his FT% is way down so far. this should all get better he hasnt played in like 21 months

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 8 November 2019 05:10 (ten months ago) link

his career ts% is like .534, this is just who he is I think

k3vin k., Friday, 8 November 2019 05:23 (ten months ago) link

I think Cad is right. Right when he seemed to have turned a corner a bit he got hurt.

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 8 November 2019 05:55 (ten months ago) link

yeah last we heard of him he had an insanely good start to the season then started complaining about being exhausted and blew up his acl

lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 16:24 (ten months ago) link

I find Porzingis’ TS% strange because he shoots a healthy 3p% and is generally good on midrange postups. Those are two things that are so high equity and valuable from a 7 footer that I almost don’t care about the ts%

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 8 November 2019 16:32 (ten months ago) link

He’s probably the best rim protector in the league as well

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 8 November 2019 16:34 (ten months ago) link

anyway if he stays healthy theres no way he wont play better u dont just miss a season and a half and play yr best ball

lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 16:39 (ten months ago) link

it’s actually the midrange stuff that’s killing him, he’s taking a career high share of his shots (24%) from 3-10 feet and only shooting .296 from there

k3vin k., Friday, 8 November 2019 17:11 (ten months ago) link

wonder if hes having trouble getting to the rim in the pnr or if those are more post ups or what

lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 17:14 (ten months ago) link

With his incredible start to the season (26.7pts, 9.1ast, 9.9reb), the question #must be asked: Is Luka Doncic A Top 5 Player In The NBA? https://t.co/dZN2uGhYub

— BBALLBREAKDOWN (@bballbreakdown) November 8, 2019

k3vin k., Friday, 8 November 2019 18:53 (ten months ago) link

Top 15 it seems

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 8 November 2019 21:40 (ten months ago) link

he's top 5 until he isn't

ciderpress, Friday, 8 November 2019 21:40 (ten months ago) link

aron baynes is also a top 10 player currently

ciderpress, Friday, 8 November 2019 21:41 (ten months ago) link

yeah i mean the thing is even when a young players is putting up all nba number vs the wizards on a tuesday night we all know it takes years of honing their game before they can dominate vs the real good teams when it really counts (the nba playoffs baby)

lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 21:45 (ten months ago) link

i mean like even giannis whos been at this a while longer and has an mvp still kinda got exposed in last years offs

lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 21:48 (ten months ago) link

kawhi leonard on the other hand got very not exposed

lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 21:54 (ten months ago) link

I really think luka is in that giannis/kawhi class in terms of talent, even if he’s not quite there yet. not sure I’ve felt more sure of a young dude since maybe anthony davis, and lebron before that

k3vin k., Friday, 8 November 2019 22:53 (ten months ago) link

only thing i wld say is he doesnt have the defensive or athletic ceiling near any of those guys, hes more like...........harden

lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 22:57 (ten months ago) link

but a harden who plays joyfully and unselfishly, sounds pretty great!

lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 22:58 (ten months ago) link

i think u cld also compare him to steph or kyrie tho obvs those are smaller guys and so a little different

lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 22:59 (ten months ago) link

harden is closest tho, theyre both chuckers

lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 22:59 (ten months ago) link

but harden is an efficient chucker something that is apparently possible now

lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 23:00 (ten months ago) link

another big game tonite

ciderpress, Saturday, 9 November 2019 05:03 (ten months ago) link

he is good at basketball

k3vin k., Saturday, 9 November 2019 06:11 (ten months ago) link

Doncic is probably done for the night. The line he achieved in three quarters -- 24 points, 14 boards, eight assists -- has only been done in nine other regular season since last season's All-Star break. Doncic has now done it three times this week.

— Bobby Karalla (@bobbykaralla) November 10, 2019

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 03:15 (ten months ago) link

on the second night of a back to back, man. I miss being 20

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 November 2019 03:51 (ten months ago) link

http://bkref.com/tiny/6Rdfq

looks like only the fifth 24-14-8 on a back to back since 83, joining barkley, bird, jeff ruland(!), and...david lee?

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:13 (ten months ago) link

luka basically a combo of all those guys (idk who jeff ruland is)

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:14 (ten months ago) link

consecutive games of 24-14-8, that is

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:14 (ten months ago) link

would be cool if luka was part jeff ruland

ciderpress, Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:15 (ten months ago) link

lmao

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:21 (ten months ago) link

both guys wearing the same shoes except one is hi top and one is mid

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:23 (ten months ago) link

lol that is exactly chicago mike d'antoni from the reg season thread!

mike dan tony (Clay), Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:30 (ten months ago) link

Dirk never had a run like this iirc

I am Holger Czukay (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 05:40 (nine months ago) link

feel like people get that luka scores a lot but if you take into account the fact that he doesn’t play a lot of minutes and he plays pretty slow, his current season is actually 8th all time in points per possession...
http://bkref.com/tiny/vp7Uo

k3vin k., Wednesday, 4 December 2019 14:29 (nine months ago) link

his current season is only a couple of months old, but it's true his production has been phenomenal

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:12 (nine months ago) link

hes doing utterly insane things but also were living in the post truth era of nba stats

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:51 (nine months ago) link

I don’t believe the stats

Clay, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:12 (nine months ago) link

its the end of history (stats)

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:15 (nine months ago) link

lies damn lies and nba stats

Clay, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:23 (nine months ago) link

plus minus is good now

ciderpress, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:25 (nine months ago) link

russ really ruined stats. he had a triple double again last night but he was horrible in all aspects of the game.

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:27 (nine months ago) link

if he keeps it up he might follow Carmelo as player of the week

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:28 (nine months ago) link

haha

k3vin k., Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:38 (nine months ago) link

Westbrook now has the worst TS% of his career. This experiment not working

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:42 (nine months ago) link

Luka had a Bourbon Street hangover game but his bench bailed him out.

Fetchboy, Thursday, 5 December 2019 03:51 (nine months ago) link

even if it was not his best game there was a great dynamic with the dallas crowd where the bench got them back into the game and there was a noticeable anticipation for luka to come in as the hammer.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 December 2019 03:59 (nine months ago) link

The Mavs have good vibes

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 5 December 2019 16:05 (nine months ago) link

wish they would've held off on the super goofy "city" rebranding till a year when they sucked
https://www.forbes.com/sites/doylerader/2019/11/26/dallas-mavericks-city-edition-jersey-2019-tex-moton-graffiti/#b257f4d77a1b

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 5 December 2019 16:30 (nine months ago) link

i was wrong about a lot of teams this year but at least i knew this one was good

ciderpress, Friday, 6 December 2019 00:30 (nine months ago) link

26-9-6 on 15 shots in 26 minutes tonight

Clay, Sunday, 8 December 2019 02:42 (nine months ago) link

oops flipped boards and assists there, which is even more impressive

Clay, Sunday, 8 December 2019 02:43 (nine months ago) link

minicopa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIHUirZkjhI

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 December 2019 16:53 (nine months ago) link

aw lil luka

k3vin k., Saturday, 14 December 2019 19:56 (nine months ago) link

Prayers up for luka, really hope he only misses a few games and not like 4-6 weeks.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Sunday, 15 December 2019 05:04 (nine months ago) link

31/12/13 after three quarters

Fetchboy, Sunday, 29 December 2019 03:35 (nine months ago) link

Sorry, that was 15 assists.

Fetchboy, Sunday, 29 December 2019 03:42 (nine months ago) link

I know it sounds like I’m a luka stan or something but he really does get fouled a ton and doesn’t get the call for whatever reason. Very often he beats someone off the dribble and they just slap his chest. I’d hate so see him start flopping on it.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 21:32 (eight months ago) link

hes getting the curry treatment

championship winning vibration (Spottie), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 21:57 (eight months ago) link

"I played very bad," said Doncic, who finished with 25 points, 10 rebounds, 7 assists and 6 turnovers. "I felt like I don't know how to play basketball. I've got to get better -- a lot."

Fetchboy, Saturday, 11 January 2020 17:56 (eight months ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Saturday, 11 January 2020 18:17 (eight months ago) link

I watched 2nd half and he did look bad. Shanked multiple free throws too, felt like he was playing high af. Credit to LA defensive scheme tho mostly.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 11 January 2020 18:24 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

(2015) Luka Doncic playing against the Celtics at 16-years-old. 😳 pic.twitter.com/7B9ap2qpkb

— Timeless Sports (@timelesssports_) February 28, 2020

lag∞n, Saturday, 29 February 2020 15:44 (seven months ago) link

his 3% is down below his rookie year now at 31.6% on over 9 attempts per game.

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Thursday, 5 March 2020 19:02 (six months ago) link

The Knicks, according to NBA sources, have been gathering intel on All Star Chris Paul and could make a run at him this summer. Paul, 34, carries a huge contract but he’s had a resurgent season in OKC & is proven leader. (He was also once represented by...Leon Rose.)

— Frank Isola (@TheFrankIsola) March 5, 2020

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 March 2020 19:12 (six months ago) link

I keep checking his 3% to see if it's gone up. Nope. Think we determined it's cause he takes too many step-back contested 3s, a la Harden (who similarly has a shitty % even tho I'd say he's a "good" 3 pt shooter)

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 5 March 2020 19:33 (six months ago) link

Harden has basically hovered at 36% his whole career which is average % wise but for how many he takes its good.

the difference between 31.5 and 36 with three+ more attempts per game is pretty significant

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Thursday, 5 March 2020 19:40 (six months ago) link

five months pass...

plenty of excitement in the main thread but this needs to be here for the sake of posterity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvPLMTJd-0U

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 23 August 2020 23:12 (one month ago) link

what a shot

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Sunday, 23 August 2020 23:42 (one month ago) link

If Luka can do something about those glass ankles, my god...

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 24 August 2020 00:50 (one month ago) link

43-17-13 on a bum ankle in the playoffs

He's just 21 but how far can he be from his ceiling at this point? He definitely needs to get better on his 3s and defense. What else has he got room to improve on?

Fetchboy, Monday, 24 August 2020 01:19 (one month ago) link

his ft% is fine but not amazing. he needs to work on composure and not letting the refs derail him. i think he still misses some open passes on pick and roll late in games. conditioning and not getting fatigued. there's plenty to do, which is scary.

call all destroyer, Monday, 24 August 2020 01:22 (one month ago) link

yeah its crazy hes kinda still getting by on talent in some phases of the game his ball handling is super technical and his passes are pinpoint but his shooting and game around shooting footwork shot selection just general technique can still be improved a lot, and yes then conditioning

lag∞n, Monday, 24 August 2020 01:31 (one month ago) link

getting in better shape will help with things like ankle injuries too

lag∞n, Monday, 24 August 2020 01:32 (one month ago) link

-Rotation torsion flexion valgus

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 24 August 2020 01:33 (one month ago) link

but theres really no reason he shouldnt have a harden-tatum type three point game, hes already got the handle and feel to do it and hes obvs talent wise a good shooter its just a matter of improving his footwork and tightening up his shot a little

lag∞n, Monday, 24 August 2020 01:36 (one month ago) link

he’s weird in the sense that he’s better at tough 3s than ordinary ones

3:10 to yur mom (voodoo chili), Monday, 24 August 2020 01:41 (one month ago) link

the ball is always in his hands so I bet theyre the majority of the ones he takes

k3vin k., Monday, 24 August 2020 03:16 (one month ago) link

the iso 3 and the catch and shoot 3 should probably be treated as completely separate skills

call all destroyer, Monday, 24 August 2020 03:19 (one month ago) link

He has nice arc but obv isn't super consistent, hence only being a mid 70s FT shooter. Needs Seth Curry to give him a tune up.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 24 August 2020 05:28 (one month ago) link

pic.twitter.com/gcV16VTjR3

— Out Of Context NBA (@oocnba) August 24, 2020

lag∞n, Monday, 24 August 2020 17:12 (one month ago) link

That’s great. A much more endearing reminder of his youth and humanity than when they used to show Lebron biting his nails on the bench.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 24 August 2020 17:46 (one month ago) link


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