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lets talk draft free agency and videos of players being guarded by chairs

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2017 18:28 (one year ago) Permalink

some interesting thoughts in here re nba positional trends and how that affects the draft https://www.theringer.com/nba/2017/11/30/16717774/jayson-tatum-boston-celtics-nba-draft-wings tho it prob overvalues said trends as trend pieces tend to, being good at basketball is still most important and teams can always do well by going countertrend

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2017 18:30 (one year ago) Permalink

michael porter is out for the season from back surgery btw, not a great opening gambit for a potential #1

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2017 18:34 (one year ago) Permalink

on the other hand marvin bagley is looking very much like "the complete package"

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2017 18:35 (one year ago) Permalink

he's pretty smooth

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 November 2017 18:58 (one year ago) Permalink

it seems like hes got the basketball iq and is a gamer

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2017 19:02 (one year ago) Permalink

has been seen flying around the court making plays

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2017 19:03 (one year ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEFnY9JvA4c

lag∞n, Monday, 18 December 2017 01:19 (eleven months ago) Permalink

marvin bagley is for real too, plus deandre ayton. should be a good draft.

J0rdan S., Monday, 18 December 2017 02:33 (eleven months ago) Permalink

ya this draft is looking like it has 4 or 5 "#1 quality players" tho michael porter getting back surgery complicates that somewhat

lag∞n, Monday, 18 December 2017 02:38 (eleven months ago) Permalink

its seems like bagley shd be able to play defense and therefor center tho the thing abt having a relatively short reach is worrying, wonder what the problem is

lag∞n, Monday, 18 December 2017 16:09 (eleven months ago) Permalink

feel like mo bamba cld be one of those guys who people are pretty stoked on coming out of college like he goes in the 3-6 range then immediately upon entering the league starts doing things never seen before and everyone freaks out

lag∞n, Monday, 18 December 2017 16:15 (eleven months ago) Permalink

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSQveZ3W0AA0ELM.jpg

lag∞n, Saturday, 30 December 2017 03:49 (eleven months ago) Permalink

trae young is going to seriously complicate some draft decisions!

lag∞n, Sunday, 31 December 2017 02:30 (eleven months ago) Permalink

watched duke-nc st last night and bagley looked like the second coming of karl anthony towns. maybe ayton or young (or bamba) have higher upside but he seems like the best combo of talent and reliability in the draft to me.

https://youtu.be/1Kj9TtMiIYk

J0rdan S., Sunday, 7 January 2018 17:33 (eleven months ago) Permalink

i value tearing shit up and general basketballbilty highly, but it shd be noted that ayton is doing that too and his game seems a lil more pro

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 17:36 (eleven months ago) Permalink

there is an insane amount of talent in this draft any of ayton bagley donic porter young and bamba prob wldve gone first last year

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 17:38 (eleven months ago) Permalink

out of them tho ayton seems like the only cant miss bigtime two way player

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 17:41 (eleven months ago) Permalink

ayton will prob be a monster but this article was a little concerning

https://www.theringer.com/2017/12/7/16743900/deandre-ayton-arizona-blocks-nba-draft

J0rdan S., Sunday, 7 January 2018 17:43 (eleven months ago) Permalink

bagley might be a little slight for center on defense in the NBA but he seems like a smart & good kid who should be able to get himself to like... playable on that end. and the offensive potential seems limitless.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 7 January 2018 17:45 (eleven months ago) Permalink

one of the enduring mysteries of the college to pro transition is that its common for an elite prospect to underperform their talent in some way then upon getting to the pros they do totally fine... or not, and its super hard to tell which player will succeed and which wont, all else being equal id take the player who has the tools and is underperforming over the one who has question marks over their fundamental abilities, of course maybe danny aigne takes a look at their mind types and choses bagley, i dont have access to the mindtype data

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 17:51 (eleven months ago) Permalink

*the mystery mostly has to do with bad coaching imo

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 17:52 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Ayton doesn’t play with much energy on defense. He rarely makes two efforts at contesting a shot, and he’s not particularly diligent about getting himself involved in a play when it doesn’t involve his man.

The frustrating part about the way Ayton plays is that it’s not due to any lack of ability. His defensive potential is off the charts. When he’s locked in on that side of the ball, he can be dominant. He made a few huge defensive plays in Arizona’s 67-64 win over Texas A&M on Tuesday, a game in which he significantly outplayed Robert Williams, another big man projected to go in next year’s lottery.

this prob comes down to a judgement call on personality and motivation but if i were a drafter and felt like i got a sense that those werent going to be an issue id feel fine writing off his college block numbers to the usual college bs

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 17:54 (eleven months ago) Permalink

if bagley doesnt totally pan out i cld see him as a antwan jamison / ken faried type ie a player with a great feel for the game who just doesnt quite have the stuff to dominate

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 18:15 (eleven months ago) Permalink

yeah i guess a lot of the ayton question comes down to answers about his personality etc that seem unknowable to the public

bagley looks like a 25 ppg scorer to me tho

J0rdan S., Sunday, 7 January 2018 18:37 (eleven months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

jfc this guy

Def hyper-focusing on 👣Vs scanning eyes/🏀using peripheral vision 2perceive foot motion
📍Myth:U must jump high/have high release point 2be a Gr8 shooter
🚨Fact:Rate of coordinated force production,pretensioned w/min JH/lower release point is highly effective @bballbreakdown pic.twitter.com/jPW9R4Vs80

— BBiomechanics (@BBiomechanics) February 1, 2018

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:03 (ten months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

maybe it's been there for a long time, but i just noticed that the nba has all the draft combine testing and measurements going back to 2000 up.

https://stats.nba.com/draft/combine-strength-agility/

if nothing else it's kind of cool to have more or less real heights, wingspans, and standing reaches for most current players.

circles, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 04:27 (nine months ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

hornacek fired

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Thursday, 12 April 2018 05:47 (eight months ago) Permalink

jeez didn’t even wait til the season’s cold

Clay, Thursday, 12 April 2018 05:58 (eight months ago) Permalink

guess its his fault zinger blew up his knee huh.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Thursday, 12 April 2018 05:59 (eight months ago) Permalink

ugh there's apparently rumors of the bucks going after budenholzer

Heez, Thursday, 12 April 2018 15:55 (eight months ago) Permalink

a weird nba coaching subplot is when the fuck did coach bud get enough clout to say "i don't want to coach a rebuild"?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 12 April 2018 16:03 (eight months ago) Permalink

there arent that many good coaches out there

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 April 2018 16:46 (eight months ago) Permalink

Guess people have faith in his ability to replicate the Spurs magic having been there for so long.

Plus his turnaround from 38 wins to their best ever season in ATL supports that.

tsrobodo, Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:00 (eight months ago) Permalink

Vogel fired

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:14 (eight months ago) Permalink

Bud on the Bucks would be a big step up, he's a top ten coach. But coach is only about 50% of their issues, that roster needs some big upgrades and better fits.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:15 (eight months ago) Permalink

Top 3 odds for lottery teams:#Suns - 64.2%#Grizzlies - 55.8%#Hawks - 42.6%#Mavs - 42.6%#Magic - 29.1%#Kings - 18.3%#Bulls - 18.3%#Cavs (via Nets) - 9.9%#Knicks - 6.1%#Sixers or #Celtics (via Lakers) - 4.0%#Hornets - 2.9%#Pistons - 2.5%#Clippers - 2.2%#Nuggets - 1.8%

— Basketball Reference (@bball_ref) April 12, 2018

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Thursday, 12 April 2018 19:05 (eight months ago) Permalink

Clifford fired

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Friday, 13 April 2018 17:13 (eight months ago) Permalink

ahaha (sry heez)

The Heat won the 16 pick which slid the Bucks to 17 and therefore keeping their pick. The Bucks representative in attendance screamed "YEAH!" when the Heat won the 16th pick just now. https://t.co/Tx1Nff0jpz

— Jared Weiss (@JaredWeissNBA) April 13, 2018

lag∞n, Friday, 13 April 2018 21:44 (eight months ago) Permalink

wait maybe im confused that pick is going to phx i guess whatever

lag∞n, Friday, 13 April 2018 21:45 (eight months ago) Permalink

well the hawks lost both coin flips and are now most likely to pick 5th. that plus budenholzer given permission to interview with the suns. offseason is sucking so far.

Heez, Saturday, 14 April 2018 18:01 (seven months ago) Permalink

:( sorry dude

21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 14 April 2018 19:10 (seven months ago) Permalink

on the other hand the 5th pick shd be pretty sick in this draft

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 April 2018 20:25 (seven months ago) Permalink

Kristaps Porzingis is 22 years old and going on his fourth NBA coach

— Stefan Bondy (@SBondyNYDN) April 14, 2018

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 20:52 (seven months ago) Permalink

discussed a little here hello friends it's the 2018 NBA Playoffs, a place where dreams GO 2 DIE

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Thursday, 19 April 2018 18:25 (seven months ago) Permalink

lmao suns gonna be in the gutter until sarver sells.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Monday, 23 April 2018 21:26 (seven months ago) Permalink

why not throw mark jackson into the mix

lag∞n, Monday, 23 April 2018 21:38 (seven months ago) Permalink

marc n mike in the morning

lag∞n, Friday, 12 October 2018 15:16 (two months ago) Permalink

would watch and/or listen

call all destroyer, Friday, 12 October 2018 15:54 (two months ago) Permalink

rip spurs. derrick white out 6-8 weeks with heel injury.

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Friday, 12 October 2018 16:25 (two months ago) Permalink

lmao every year without fail:

Bradley Beal is HYPED on Jeff Green: "Jeff is a star, man, because he’s built like LeBron and almost plays like him."

"I never told him that, but I think he should know it." pic.twitter.com/N9c5Z7X27i

— Fred Katz (@FredKatz) October 12, 2018

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Friday, 12 October 2018 16:28 (two months ago) Permalink

i'm so angry thibs is such a dipshit
the wolves are like a toxic relationship i know i need to cut them out of my life but it's hard

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 October 2018 16:42 (two months ago) Permalink

why am i so angry about this stupid fucking team?

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 October 2018 16:43 (two months ago) Permalink

i'm sorry you're angry and i would be too if it was my team but from the outside this is the funniest nba story in a while.

call all destroyer, Friday, 12 October 2018 16:49 (two months ago) Permalink

cos they finally had real expectations xp

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Friday, 12 October 2018 16:49 (two months ago) Permalink

I love that somehow a decade later Jeff green is still magically making basketball ppl think he’s good

gritty tigger reboot (agent hibachi), Friday, 12 October 2018 17:02 (two months ago) Permalink

i'm sorry you're angry and i would be too if it was my team but from the outside this is the funniest nba story in a while.

― call all destroyer, Friday, October 12, 2018 11:49 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh you should totally lol about it, it's a farce! we deserve to be the laughingstock of the NBA

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 October 2018 17:03 (two months ago) Permalink

That wiz team just has infighting and players only meetings by thanksgiving written allllll over it

gritty tigger reboot (agent hibachi), Friday, 12 October 2018 17:03 (two months ago) Permalink

timberwolves are already in midseason form

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 October 2018 17:03 (two months ago) Permalink

Ums is welcome on the c’s bandwagon due to special circumstances we don’t even require belief in flat earth anymore kyrie said so

gritty tigger reboot (agent hibachi), Friday, 12 October 2018 17:06 (two months ago) Permalink

the pacers are the cool east team to like right now if you don't have a stake imo

ciderpress, Friday, 12 October 2018 17:21 (two months ago) Permalink

Ums is welcome on the c’s bandwagon due to special circumstances we don’t even require belief in flat earth anymore kyrie said so

― gritty tigger reboot (agent hibachi), Friday, October 12, 2018 12:06 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

honestly, the one time I really got invested in another team's success was the Big 3 Celtics run, because I really badly wanted KG to win a ring

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 October 2018 17:35 (two months ago) Permalink

this celtics team is really fun its sad ppl arent allowed to get into them cause of the hated institution of boston sports lol

lag∞n, Friday, 12 October 2018 20:14 (two months ago) Permalink

Nobody ever really hates on the Cs tho do they? They're def one of my sidepieces this season

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 12 October 2018 20:18 (two months ago) Permalink

sup

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 12 October 2018 20:19 (two months ago) Permalink

My Laker hatred is so encompassing that I have no hate left to expend on the Celtics. And brad stevens is so angel-faced, who could hate him?

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 12 October 2018 20:28 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah outside of lakers fans celtics hate is entirely spillover from the NFL and to a lesser extent MLB

ciderpress, Friday, 12 October 2018 20:54 (two months ago) Permalink

nah man f the celtics. only time ill cheer for them is when they play the lakers

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Friday, 12 October 2018 20:56 (two months ago) Permalink

altho i do like this celtics team lol

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Friday, 12 October 2018 20:56 (two months ago) Permalink

last year's celtics team in the offs was the biggest bandwagon bait ever but because boston there wasn't much of a bandwagon

ciderpress, Friday, 12 October 2018 20:58 (two months ago) Permalink

i've always been neutral abt the celtics and my good friends on ILH here the last way too many years have warmed me to them largely and this current roster is so fun i'm def excited to root for them this year

Clay, Friday, 12 October 2018 21:28 (two months ago) Permalink

pats can get fucked tho obv i mean i'm not sure i even need to say that

Clay, Friday, 12 October 2018 21:29 (two months ago) Permalink

The Spurs traded Tony Parker and lost two more point guards to 8-weeks-or-more injuries and still have a better PG rotation than Phoenix. Think about that.

— Hardwood Paroxysm (@HPbasketball) October 12, 2018

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Friday, 12 October 2018 22:34 (two months ago) Permalink

even im sick of the patriots xp

lag∞n, Friday, 12 October 2018 23:56 (two months ago) Permalink

otm

call all destroyer, Saturday, 13 October 2018 01:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Horrible article haha

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Saturday, 13 October 2018 02:15 (two months ago) Permalink

It accuses a four time all-star of not improving his game lately! Because he "began seeing himself as a star"!

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 13 October 2018 02:59 (two months ago) Permalink

Fultz Standstill 3
*Substantial air space(distance from ball 2forehead at release)
📍Prematurely straightened arms w/major reduction in freedom of motion=dysrhythmic energy transfer
📍160k shots w/said energy transfer=rep training doesn’t necessarily=self organized refinement pic.twitter.com/WzPbIjshuq

— BBiomechanics (@BBiomechanics) October 11, 2018

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 October 2018 16:14 (two months ago) Permalink

philly traded tatum + a likely high lottery pick for him ha

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 October 2018 16:30 (two months ago) Permalink

and simmons is useless when hes not handling the ball

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 October 2018 16:30 (two months ago) Permalink

simmons is good

ciderpress, Saturday, 13 October 2018 16:35 (two months ago) Permalink

hes good in a lazy midseason game, in the playoffs against a team prepared to exploit his weaknesses hes got a lot of weaknesses

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 October 2018 16:37 (two months ago) Permalink

In the regular season he’s playoff Rondo. In the playoffs last year he was regular season Rondo.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 13 October 2018 18:49 (two months ago) Permalink

hes good in a lazy midseason game, in the playoffs against a team prepared to exploit his weaknesses hes got a lot of weaknesses

― lag∞n, Saturday, October 13, 2018 12:37 PM (six hours ago)

yes he was also a rookie

k3vin k., Saturday, 13 October 2018 23:01 (two months ago) Permalink

I was listening to the bill simmons over/unders podcast, he's really high on the lakers and thinks they're a lock to be over 47.5 or 48 wins or whatever it is and has them as the #3 seed and...I don't see it. I mean they could do it for sure but if there is anything we have learned about regular season lebron over the past 7 years, particularly in his first season with a team, it is that they do not exceed expectations in the regular season. no way lebron goes hard enough for 82 games for that team to win 50 in a stacked western conference imo

k3vin k., Saturday, 13 October 2018 23:03 (two months ago) Permalink

it is actually gonna be hard for many teams in the west to break 50 kinda like last year, too many good teams that are gonna beat up on each other

k3vin k., Saturday, 13 October 2018 23:04 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah was listening to the same podcast and I was surprised. I mean they can't really break 48 wins with their current interior defence rotation. Are there any speculated trades to help in that area?

They also won't want LeBron defending the 5 and wearing himself down. Really I would have thought that they should be looking to preserve him for a real run next season (w/ a free agent star signing) and for now develop their younger assets, and if they make the playoffs this year it's a bonus.

Rough win calc:

Bucks: 1/2
Bulls: 2/2
Cavs: 1/2
Celtics: 0/2
Clippers: 3/4
Grizzlies: 2/3
Hawks: 2/2
Heat: 1/2
Hornets: 2/2
Jazz: 1/4
Kings: 3/4
Knicks: 2/2
Magic: 2/2
Mavericks: 2/3
Nets: 2/2
Nuggets: 1/3
Pacers: 1/2
Pelicans: 2/4
Pistons: 1/2
Raptors: 1/2
Rockets: 1/4
Sixers: 1/2
Spurs: 3/4
Suns: 3/4
Timberwolves: 1/4
Thunder: 2/3
Trailblazers: 2/4
Warriors: 1/4
Wizards: 1/2

So maybe they are kind of hovering around as a 47 win team but 3 seed? Nahhh

Not that I want it to happen but just wondering what trade would it take to get Mark Gasol on the Lakers? Esp since he can opt out next year. Grizz could tank pretty effectively without him and I would assume noone is interested in Conley really.

You (bleeping) need me. You can't Finn without me (fionnland), Sunday, 14 October 2018 00:43 (one month ago) Permalink

lakers would only trade grizzlies their expiring vets probably which memphis might do to get under the cap or something idk.

21st savagery fox (m bison), Sunday, 14 October 2018 00:44 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah I just looked on trade machine and Lakers just don't have the salary to do it.

You (bleeping) need me. You can't Finn without me (fionnland), Sunday, 14 October 2018 00:50 (one month ago) Permalink

that would be fine for everyone i think. lakers really need an innings eater at the 5, if they leave the rotation as it is they're adding a ton of unnecessary wear and injury risk to lebron and kuzma and whoever else they use to fill up 26 minutes a nite.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 14 October 2018 03:00 (one month ago) Permalink

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dib9-qIVsAAQlYS.jpg

Fetchboy, Sunday, 14 October 2018 03:47 (one month ago) Permalink

that needs to go in nba fashion!!!!!!

21st savagery fox (m bison), Sunday, 14 October 2018 03:51 (one month ago) Permalink

yes he was also a rookie

― k3vin k., Saturday, October 13, 2018 7:01 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

was he really tho, something to think about

lag∞n, Sunday, 14 October 2018 03:56 (one month ago) Permalink


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