make your piiiiick
― Spottie, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link
warriors sweep, curry finals mvp, draymond no flagrants
― Spottie, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link
sounds abt right
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link
dray 1 flagrant maybe
voted w in 5 tho
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link
the cavs are gonna be trying so hard to push his buttons guarenteed
― Spottie, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link
I had to decide between dubs in 5 or in 6. I went conservative and voted 6. Finals Bron is formidable, but not invincible, as has been proved more than once in the past.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link
cavs in 7
― marcos, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link
gonna post this here so everyone has to read it when they open the thread
my fav outcome of this series wld be cavs winning via bron having the greatest finals performance ever, not cause im really rooting for the them just cause i wld like to see something like that, and it wld be cool to see the dubs lose after adding kd, i do not think thats whatll happen, i think the dubs will win in 5
― lag∞n, Friday, May 26, 2017 7:22 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link
bron v kd matchup will be very interesting and crucial, both teams will try to not have them guard each other but in the crunch time there will be no choice
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link
remember when harrison barnes went 3-95 games 5-7. he's been swapped for KD. no rest for lebron.
― Spottie, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
this series is the ultimate challenge for bron and if he can do it he is the goat
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link
maybe kyrie can play a lil D too who knows lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link
the warriors cannot be stopped
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link
also k love has looked as good as ever leading up to the finals but the warriors matchup has not been good for him.
― Spottie, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link
Cavs should have Kyrie back on defense to help out, might be a nice change of pace for him.
Cavs in 6
― brownie, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link
never forget https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py0-l1M_870
― marcos, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link
never happened
― Spottie, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link
z lowe on TThttp://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19491943/zach-lowe-cleveland-cavaliers-tristan-thompson-becoming-elite-role-player-nba
no it definitely happened, i provided video evidence of this happening, see above for reference xp
― marcos, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link
im allergic to any evidence of the 2016 finals.
― Spottie, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link
i predict it will come down to two free-throws to be taken by lebron - lebron will make one and miss one, with slightly different free-throw routines for each
― 龜, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link
lmao
― Spottie, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
offs so far:https://bballbreakdown.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Screen-Shot-2017-05-28-at-6.50.38-AM.png
― Spottie, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
i really just hope its an epic finals cause otherwise whats the point of having two superteams
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link
yea i don't want any chokers
― marcos, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link
in that same regard both teams have totally coasted up til now which is weird and adds an element of instability, like u cld see the dubs kinda freaking out when the spurs were torching them before they intentionally injured kawhi
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link
its like training to run a 4 hour marathon then suddenly having to do a six minute 26th mile
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link
yep
I agree that it'll probably be Warriors in 5 but I definitely think Bron will be the best player in the series
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
please no injuries for this series either
― marcos, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link
^^ injuries would only muddy up the results, which need to be crystal clear this time
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link
stephen a smith changed his official prediction to dubs
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link
yes very sad about that
― Spottie, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link
i would genuinely encourage any posters here who are totally picking the cavs in good faith and not just because they're homers or anything to find your local bookie or log onto bovada and start printing money
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link
don't worry I'm a homer though I do think cavs chances are higher than most people are giving them credit for
― marcos, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link
what are the odds rn? i would give the cavs at least 40% chance to win
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link
right now it's warriors -240 which is 70/30. it opened at -260 or -270 i think
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link
538 saying it's 90/10
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link
dont forget friends, betting on sports is dumb for making money
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link
i don't gamble but 70/30 sounds ridiculous for a finals to me, let alone 90/10
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link
― lag∞n, Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:14 PM (four seconds ago)
def, but every once in a while there's obvious money to be made. finals 2 years ago was pretty easy money for anyone paying attention.
70/30 seems like a very fair price, even if i think the warriors should probably be stronger favorites. don't think it's attractive enough to bet
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
90/10 is pretty far out but dont think anyones giving those odds, wonder what it was for that year the lakers beat the nets, had to have been one of the most lopsided matchups ever
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
538 is probably over-weighting the Cav's regular season after the ASB.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link
havent read the 538 thing but that's probably right
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link
yeah I'd take 70/30 for sure, but my book doesn't have a price on the series yet, lol
that said I do get a little suspicious of projection systems when they're dealing with superteams like this.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link
main thing that 538 model doesn't account for iirc is ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ playoff lebron ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
― marcos, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link
more or less
i recall nate silver saying is ELO model or whatever doesn't really treat playoff basketball as different from regular season
― marcos, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link
i very rarely bet sports, i think the last time i did was the finals 2 years ago. i just like thinking about it
NBA finals are kind of an interesting betting phenomenon tho, if you're a reasonably discerning and plugged-in fan there can probably be money to be made. combination of the better team usually wins + lots of media attention/terrible opinions by stephen a smith probably cause people to bet on the cavs when they shouldnt, making the warriors odds better
warriors odds are probably as good as they're gonna get because most books probably got a lot of money on the dubs last summer after KD signed
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link
Just remember that LeBron has appeared in 7 consecutive finals but he doesn't have 7 rings.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:26 (six years ago) link
see to me steph is an incredibly unique and fun player, i don't see how anyone can dislike him
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link
tbh all the arguments that 'this was unprecedented' feel as old and bad as the baseball 'we can't change the rules or anything else because it's BASEBALL' arguments. everybody in sports does whatever they can get away with and oftentimes more. there's no "elite player can't join the team with the best win record" rule. that's fake news
well to be fair the reason why it's so unprecedented is because situations like this pretty much never come up, how many times is the consensus best team able to take on a max contract when a historically great player in their prime just happen to be up for free agency.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link
i think people turned on steph cuz they felt like they would be able to beat him up
that's why i turned on lebron, bosh, and wade all at once
― nomar, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link
― frogbs, Tuesday, June 13, 2017 12:57 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark
as i said before almost never, which is why we should all ride the wave and be glad it happened
― 龜, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link
i dont think ive turned on curry, he has the right to do gross things with his mouth guard bc he is a basketball supergenius
― nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link
i love curry and watching him play, i also love to see him lose, which he won't do ever again afaik
― nomar, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link
ideal warriors situation is kd and curry combine for 80 and they lose, best of both worlds
― nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link
people (sports fans especially) just enjoy being contrarian
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link
there's no "elite player can't join the team with the best win record" rule.
tbf, this is the entire history of the NY Yankees in a nutshell
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
man it's awesome being out of pocket for 22 hours a day b/c ALL the takes on these finals are essentially depressing.
it's caused an odd degree of side-taking from ppl who can usually do better (and i'm not just talking about ilh). what happened was a function of the cap spike and little else.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link
yeah we're stuck with this possibility for the next few years until all the pre-cap-spike contracts wash out. they need to pay curry a proper max finally but klay and dray will still be underpaid for a couple more years.
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link
Mouthguard
https://californiastarssite.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/150612_snut_nbagum_curry-crop-original-original.png
― Jeff, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link
is steph the first person to chew on his mouth guard?
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:05 (six years ago) link
do you guys watch football? lotta visible mouth guard action in football
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link
lebron literally stuffed his mouthguard into his tights during the finals
― 龜, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link
also frankly had the cavs not blown game 3 this probably would have been the finals everyone was hoping for
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:38 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yup its sad
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link
when you play a lot of pickup bball with guys <25 yrs old it becomes almost inevitable!
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link
haha tru
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
Yay to the Dubs! I love all of them, disgusting mouthgaurds and all. KD added the clutch player that they were missing.
― DJI, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link
thanks Marcos!
Matt Moore, who's been pretty outspoken in his warriors dislike of late, had a good piece last nighthttp://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-finals-how-the-warriors-dominance-can-help-forge-a-better-nba/
I know people hate any team that gets good and stays good, comes w the territory. But they play a really fun brand of ball, and they're likable if you can get past them stuntin on your fav team.
― Spottie, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:11 (six years ago) link
they were more fun when curry was the primary guy imo
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:16 (six years ago) link
i've said plenty of times on this board that i didn't really enjoy watching KD in OKC but he was a joy in this series i thought
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:21 (six years ago) link
Yah I was in agreement w okc thunder kd
― Spottie, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:29 (six years ago) link
this team is for sure more fun to watch than the laker superteam i grew up with and all of the lebron teams imo
― 龜, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:34 (six years ago) link
was the laker team the aforementioned malone/payton "era"?
― nomar, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link
hmm i guess they only became a 'superteam' when they added malone/payton. prior to that it was just kobe/shaq and good role players, huh. but yes the threepeat lakers team
― 龜, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:44 (six years ago) link
the second bulls threepeat team is still my ultimate superteam, lots of fun dudes on that squad. i'm sure they were immensely hateable outside Illinois.
― nomar, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:49 (six years ago) link
I prefer the 1st Bulls 3peat! Younger MJ, Ho Grant, BJ, Pax, Levingston, Scott Williams, Craig Hodges, still felt like an underdog team. Or at least hadn't had the "dynasty" tag slapped on with it's presumption of inevitability.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link
ya young(er) jordan was the shit too
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 23:37 (six years ago) link
oh yeah i prefer the first bulls threepeat team myself, i just didn't consider them a superteam in the same way. overcoming the pistons, ostracizing isiah thomas, finishing off the magic/worthy lakers, arguably singlehandedly denying championships to ewing/miller/barkley/malone/stockton/payton, true magnificence.
― nomar, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 23:41 (six years ago) link
i was glad that during jordan's retirement the dude who won was Hakeem, he was my favorite NBAer outside of Chicago. I liked Drexler too.
― nomar, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 23:43 (six years ago) link
ya hakeem was rad, super fun to watch and an a+ guy too
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 23:45 (six years ago) link
hmm
In his autobiography, Living the Dream, Olajuwon mentions an intriguing draft trade offered to the Rockets that would have sent Clyde Drexler and the number two pick in the 1984 NBA draft from Portland in exchange for Ralph Sampson.[17] Had the Rockets made the deal, Olajuwon states the Rockets could have selected Michael Jordan with the number two pick to play alongside Olajuwon and Drexler, who had established chemistry playing together during their Phi Slama Jama days in college.
― nomar, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link
wow
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 23:56 (six years ago) link
there's an alternate history i wouldn't have minded living in
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 00:31 (six years ago) link
re: Matt Moore article. Good stuff, and I love the term "gentlemen's sweep!"
― DJI, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 00:50 (six years ago) link
Bay Area billionaires out in abundance
If you see this anywhere else but the Bay Area... they bitin #DUBNATION pic.twitter.com/lD6aNfH6SF— Fall Up Focus (@SBFocus) June 13, 2017
― Spottie, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 02:40 (six years ago) link
― lag∞n, Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:37 PM (three hours ago)
the greatness of post-miami lebron has kind of given me greater appreciation for second threepeat era jordan tbh
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 14 June 2017 02:54 (six years ago) link
Final playoff plus-minus leaders: 1. Steph Curry +2452. Draymond Green +2283. LeBron James +1954. Klay T +1925. Kevin Durant +177— Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) June 13, 2017
― Spottie, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 05:51 (six years ago) link
agree re: Hakeem. I should go back and watch those 94, 95 playoffs, I was still in MJ-mourning mode at the time. Such a beautiful player to behold.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 05:56 (six years ago) link
the dream is my fav all time (non warrior).
― Spottie, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 06:04 (six years ago) link
I'm still tickled by Stephs 8 reb/game in the finals. Seeing a smaller dude jump into a group of bigs and snag the ball is like watching a squirrel steal someone's half-eaten sandwich and running up a tree at a picnic.
― Fetchboy, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 06:12 (six years ago) link
yah he was beastin
― Spottie, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 06:39 (six years ago) link
how did he even do that crazy, cavs really needed to dominate the boards to have a chance, and the did not
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 13:36 (six years ago) link
yea that was ridiculous
steph curry grabbing more boards than tristan thompson, rip cavs
― marcos, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 13:43 (six years ago) link
that was great/bizarre to see
― Nhex, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link
im in sf today and there is hella fresh warriors gear getting around
― micah, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
the dream is my fav all time (non warrior).― Spottie, Wednesday, June 14, 2017 6:04 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Spottie, Wednesday, June 14, 2017 6:04 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Oh, man - I LOVE Hakeem. That he came from being a sub-7 foot soccer player to one of the top 5 best two-way centers ever, along with being a great dude, is just the best. His successive ownership of David Robinson and then Shaq in the '95 playoffs is still one of my favorite runs of any player.
― TrumpPence a Bag (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 16 June 2017 04:04 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxKIQK2O9Lc
― down that brown path (Spottie), Friday, 23 June 2017 23:48 (six years ago) link