aka KLAY-O v THE-DRAYM pt 2. who is better at basketball iyo
― k3vin k., Friday, 24 February 2017 16:53 (three years ago) link
if basketball=nut kicking dray is HOF
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 24 February 2017 16:55 (three years ago) link
http://www.thomstratton.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IVoted.jpg
― call all destroyer, Friday, 24 February 2017 16:57 (three years ago) link
pretty damn hard to pick imo.
― Spottie, Friday, 24 February 2017 16:59 (three years ago) link
not that hard imo, golden state's roster serves to underrate klay and overrate draymond. put draymond on an average team and ppl would talk about him roughly like how they talk about steven adams.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:04 (three years ago) link
need to try to remember some of my old logins
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:05 (three years ago) link
imo if you put klay on a bad team he puts up an empty 24-25 ppg. if anyone is a system player it is he. the warriors system works because of drays versatility not the other way around
― k3vin k., Friday, 24 February 2017 17:08 (three years ago) link
Klay is one of the best shooters in the league and a serviceable perimeter defender. Dray is a better defender and a worse shooter (significantly) who can do more things on the court tho i think his 3 pt ability is perhaps more significant given his position and who he guards. i think if u put both of them on teams w league avg dudes, klay's team would put up more than wins, and generally speaking i think klay's skillset is more generally valuable so i vote Klay
― art, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:13 (three years ago) link
dray is an all world defender but a far below average scorer and a good playmaker where people think hes great cause hes playing with great players to playmake with
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:18 (three years ago) link
i think he might have a thing for kicking people in the nuts . not sure if that's a pos or a neg tho
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 24 February 2017 17:22 (three years ago) link
draymond has only kicked someone in the nuts once tbf
― Spottie, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:26 (three years ago) link
phil spector only shot someone once too, just gonna put that out there
― nomar, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:27 (three years ago) link
it true we shd prob refer to drays repeat behavior as nut hunting
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:28 (three years ago) link
exactly
― Spottie, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:31 (three years ago) link
dray is better but that doesn't excuse his nut hunting
― ciderpress, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:33 (three years ago) link
put draymond on an average team and ppl would talk about him roughly like how they talk about steven adams.
― call all destroyer, Friday, February 24, 2017 12:04 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark
this is crazy
― J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2017 18:04 (three years ago) link
draymond is no offensive superstar but he has a serviceable three point shot and is one of the best playmaking bigs in the game
― J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2017 18:05 (three years ago) link
klay is elite at one of the most important skills in the NBA but i agree that on a middling team he'd be mostly empty points, gimme dray's all around game and crazy intensity
― J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2017 18:07 (three years ago) link
if anyone is a system player it is he. the warriors system works because of drays versatility not the other way around
― k3vin k., Friday, February 24, 2017 12:08 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark
i agree with this
― J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2017 18:08 (three years ago) link
his playmaking is good but no one wld be talking abt it if he wasnt playing with guys who constantly create the halfcourt fast break, like he cant take advantage of ppl going under on the pnr cause hes not a good enough shooter etc, hed have 4-5 assists a game on a normal team, and lets be clear on his scoring hes shooting 43% and scoring 10 a game in a situation where he gets more open looks than anyone else in the entire nba, hes is bad at doing points
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2017 18:11 (three years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Friday, February 24, 2017 1:08 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the warriors shd be given credit for coming up with a great system for their players, the difference between the jackson years and now is lol, but there are a lot of players that cld work in drays spot the system wld just have to shift, which isnt that hard to do when you have the talent they do
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2017 18:13 (three years ago) link
there are more players like klay in the NBA than there are like draymond
― J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2017 18:18 (three years ago) link
only a very handful of guys who can shoot like klay, which is the single most valuable basketball skill
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2017 18:21 (three years ago) link
and besides basketball isnt decided on scarcity, its decided on being good at basketball
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2017 18:22 (three years ago) link
idk we can do the "on a bad team" thing all day, if draymond is on a bad team he's putting up like a 13/8/4 with lousy shooting percentages. he plays great in their system but his teammates are literally the best shooters in the league so i'm not sure how much he's elevating them further.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 24 February 2017 18:32 (three years ago) link
i think we can all agree that most of his value is on the other side of the ball regardless, hes great at lots of different defensive things
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2017 18:35 (three years ago) link
it's true he's one of the best defenders in the NBA
― J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2017 19:36 (three years ago) link
he is insanely good and versatile at D, maybe the most versatile defender since kg?
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2017 19:39 (three years ago) link
yeah can't think of too many guys since who were unmovable on the block and also a terror while on the move
― J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2017 19:47 (three years ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, February 24, 2017 1:11 PM (four hours ago)
his usage is like 15% because he plays on the same team as the 2 best offensive players in the NBA, come on
― k3vin k., Friday, 24 February 2017 22:38 (three years ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, February 24, 2017 1:13 PM (four hours ago)
omg you might have heard of this thing called the death lineup for which he is the centerpiece
― k3vin k., Friday, 24 February 2017 22:39 (three years ago) link
lol he is not
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2017 23:17 (three years ago) link
without dray that lineup gives up approximately one million points per possession
― k3vin k., Saturday, 25 February 2017 01:15 (three years ago) link
well yeah playing 4 on 5 is never gonna work
― lag∞n, Saturday, 25 February 2017 01:19 (three years ago) link
oh you
― k3vin k., Saturday, 25 February 2017 01:49 (three years ago) link
lol
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 25 February 2017 01:50 (three years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Monday, 6 March 2017 00:01 (three years ago) link
I don't think "he would just average 25 ppg" is a strong argument that someone is a system player
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 6 March 2017 01:32 (three years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 00:01 (three years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 00:55 (three years ago) link
bad results!!
― k3vin k., Thursday, 9 March 2017 13:12 (three years ago) link
is results the name of your dog?
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 9 March 2017 19:16 (three years ago) link
im with k3vin on this one
― ciderpress, Thursday, 9 March 2017 20:49 (three years ago) link
it is quite possible that many ilh voters mistakenly believed they were voting for beloved poster me, thus skewing the results
― Clay, Thursday, 9 March 2017 22:52 (three years ago) link
i know i did
― Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Thursday, 9 March 2017 22:56 (three years ago) link
i thought i was voting for pottery
― removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Friday, 10 March 2017 09:24 (three years ago) link
I voted for Klay to revolt against the elites
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 10 March 2017 20:12 (three years ago) link
ugh so mad at you
― k3vin k., Friday, 10 March 2017 23:04 (three years ago) link
http://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2017%2F0316%2Fr191066_1296x864_3%2D2.jpg&w=360&h=240&scale=crop&cquality=40&location=center
― nomar, Friday, 17 March 2017 15:38 (three years ago) link
something for everyone here
“You know what, Steph Curry has took a step back,” Rodman said. “And it’s cool. It’s actually cool because if you see his game now, I always said with that Golden State team, I always say one thing: that one player is the player right there that makes that team. Who is that player?…“That is right there: Thompson,” Rodman said. “That kid right there is good. If he went to another team, he’d suck. What I’m saying is that Klay Thompson makes that team. Everybody’s always worried about Curry. I know Curry’s dad and all that bulls—. But Klay Thompson makes that team. It ain’t Green, that guy, no. It’s Klay Thompson.”
“That is right there: Thompson,” Rodman said. “That kid right there is good. If he went to another team, he’d suck. What I’m saying is that Klay Thompson makes that team. Everybody’s always worried about Curry. I know Curry’s dad and all that bulls—. But Klay Thompson makes that team. It ain’t Green, that guy, no. It’s Klay Thompson.”
― nomar, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 21:13 (three years ago) link
yeah but those guys didnt build their game around insane switching defense, although west was certainly a very good defender in his day he was never a guard 1-5 type (which is never actually true!) (unless yr kevin garnett)
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:11 (three years ago) link
anyway im not saying that hell be out of the league just that based on his style of play hell prob have a shorter peak than say a great shooter would
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:14 (three years ago) link
theres a good chance weve already seen his peak peak
which to be clear is all-nba level
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:15 (three years ago) link
ive said before he deserved the dpoy, but on the other hand klay is one of the best shooters to ever play and has the fastest release in the whole nba according to the science website 538.com, shooting is considered an important nba skill and to my understanding he does some other stuff decently too
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:18 (three years ago) link
i mean if ive said it once i said it a million times dray needs to be traded to the orlando magic to really settle this, which is also a thing that shd actual happen asap
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:19 (three years ago) link
it wld be good for him too as a person to not have as many great players on his team to gloat over
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:21 (three years ago) link
no
― Spottie, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:33 (three years ago) link
who says no
https://i.imgur.com/xaGJdFc.png
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:38 (three years ago) link
klay was really incredibly impressive in the finals. his defense was crazy. i still think draymond is better.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:51 (three years ago) link
Draymond Green spoke passionately about this at shootaround this morning. pic.twitter.com/Xxb1zmjJV0— Kerith Burke (@KerithBurke) October 27, 2017
Here's everything Draymond Green had to say about the Bob McNair comment: Instagram post and shootaround answers pic.twitter.com/iaHYeELUg5— Anthony Slater (@anthonyVslater) October 27, 2017
― Spottie, Friday, 27 October 2017 19:13 (three years ago) link
odd but perhaps very canny that dray is focused on the "paying my taxes" line of argument, know your audience
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 27 October 2017 19:16 (three years ago) link
yeah def
dray is awesome
― k3vin k., Friday, 27 October 2017 20:41 (three years ago) link
"Wow! This sure does sound Donald Sterling-esque!" love this guy
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 27 October 2017 20:48 (three years ago) link
"For starters, let's stop using the word owner and maybe use the word Chairman. To be owned by someone just sets a bad precedent to start. It sets the wrong tone. It gives one the wrong mindset." keep going dray, so close to the logical conclusion of the players coop league
― lag∞n, Friday, 27 October 2017 22:10 (three years ago) link
yup
― Spottie, Friday, 27 October 2017 22:22 (three years ago) link
Have definitely felt weird about team "owners" as a phrase
100% makes sense in terms of "owns the business dba Sacramento kings and personally pays salaries" and much less in terms of players
Would be like saying yeah I took a contract programming for google, Larry and Sergei are my owners
Before even getting to the obv racial overtones drays on that
― gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Friday, 27 October 2017 22:57 (three years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNM-lmmVQAAX_nO.jpg
― Spottie, Saturday, 28 October 2017 20:47 (three years ago) link
insane picture
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 30 October 2017 18:56 (three years ago) link
also funny cos they got in a fight not long after
― Spottie, Monday, 30 October 2017 19:30 (three years ago) link
lol dray is such a compulsive line crosser, which is fine, but then he complains abt being targeted cmon http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/10/30/warriors-draymond-green-takes-issue-with-fine-for-fight-with-beal/
― lag∞n, Monday, 30 October 2017 19:41 (three years ago) link
i see no lies
― Spottie, Monday, 30 October 2017 19:49 (three years ago) link
i am thinking about getting one of these silly bootleg dray flexing shirts...
http://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/1464740-draymond-green-and-one?feed_sku=1464740D1V19G79A44C21S
http://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/1458778-green-defense-two?feed_sku=1458778D1V19G79A44C22S
― brimstead, Thursday, 30 November 2017 01:36 (three years ago) link
prefer the AND ONE version
― competitive shooter - - - - (Spottie), Thursday, 30 November 2017 01:43 (three years ago) link
literally heard fitz' voice when i looked at that one
― brimstead, Thursday, 30 November 2017 02:02 (three years ago) link
haha
― competitive shooter - - - - (Spottie), Thursday, 30 November 2017 02:03 (three years ago) link
sending one to lagoon for christmas :)
― k3vin k., Thursday, 30 November 2017 02:39 (three years ago) link
would pitch in
― competitive shooter - - - - (Spottie), Thursday, 30 November 2017 02:41 (three years ago) link
:|
― lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2017 02:45 (three years ago) link
Oh my god how did I forget about this!!! When Draymond scored his first ever NBA field goal he immediately got a technical for taunting. pic.twitter.com/YR2YUFDH76— GoGSWs (@GoGSWs) August 23, 2018
― InfoWarriors (Spottie), Friday, 24 August 2018 07:02 (two years ago) link
GOAT
― J0rdan S., Friday, 24 August 2018 13:57 (two years ago) link
^^^
― k3vin k., Saturday, 25 August 2018 13:06 (two years ago) link
these chinese klay illustrations are incredible:https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/disp/beeb2566680675.5b1eaa7c04c4b.jpghttps://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/disp/12986266680675.5b1eaa7c0404b.jpghttps://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/disp/844f5966680675.5b1eaa7c04621.jpghttps://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/disp/96e2fa66680675.5b1eaa7c05264.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/SCuDVr2.jpg
Klay Thompson is known as “The Electrician” in China, a nickname that – with the backing of his shoe company, Anta – has caught on in recent weeks in a country where the usually mild-mannered All-Star has embraced a different, bathing-in-a-tub-of-gold-sneakers persona. Thompson has begun to embrace the blue-collar moniker, which he earned because of his ability to energize an arena with his timely, titillating shotmaking
― Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Friday, 21 September 2018 00:03 (two years ago) link
Klay Thompson. Not a fan of the ponytail. pic.twitter.com/HJ2w3ajfBy— Jim Park (@Sheridanblog) November 14, 2018
― Fetchboy, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 06:50 (two years ago) link
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 17:05 (two years ago) link
the tables have turned klay is better now
― ciderpress, Friday, 16 November 2018 20:20 (two years ago) link
what IF klay was always better?
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 November 2018 21:26 (two years ago) link
he was not but he might be now but he might not be later stay tuned to this space
― k3vin k., Friday, 16 November 2018 21:50 (two years ago) link
Klay was always better.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 16 November 2018 21:53 (two years ago) link
he won the popular vote in a landslide the people have spoken
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 November 2018 21:53 (two years ago) link
One of the great Dray stories pic.twitter.com/IQiRNZomZn— warriorsworld (@warriorsworld) December 6, 2018
― Spottie, Thursday, 6 December 2018 20:49 (two years ago) link
hahaha what a psycho i love him
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2018 21:05 (two years ago) link
lol then he denounced him
― lag∞n, Thursday, 6 December 2018 21:09 (two years ago) link
lmao
― very legal and very cool (k3vin k.), Thursday, 6 December 2018 21:34 (two years ago) link
denounced renounced whatever
You good, Klay? 😂 pic.twitter.com/z3rLfYetGB— NBA on TNT (@NBAonTNT) December 15, 2018
― Fetchboy, Saturday, 15 December 2018 19:02 (two years ago) link
Omg I died
― DJI, Saturday, 15 December 2018 19:55 (two years ago) link
Draymond Green on his attitude on the court "I realized I had gotten to a point where I was doing more crying than playing. I’m sure it was disgusting to watch because I felt disgusting playing that way." pic.twitter.com/3cTYPT714e— Chris Montano (@gswchris) May 19, 2019
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Sunday, 19 May 2019 21:30 (one year ago) link
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzYsSyhAuYe/
― Fetchboy, Monday, 1 July 2019 22:48 (one year ago) link
As for the thread question, I think GS answered: Klay.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 1 July 2019 23:07 (one year ago) link