DRAY v KLAY

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aka KLAY-O v THE-DRAYM pt 2. who is better at basketball iyo

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klay 16
dray 6


k3vin k., Friday, 24 February 2017 16:53 (one year ago) Permalink

if basketball=nut kicking dray is HOF

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 24 February 2017 16:55 (one year ago) Permalink

pretty damn hard to pick imo.

Spottie, Friday, 24 February 2017 16:59 (one year ago) Permalink

not that hard imo, golden state's roster serves to underrate klay and overrate draymond. put draymond on an average team and ppl would talk about him roughly like how they talk about steven adams.

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:04 (one year ago) Permalink

need to try to remember some of my old logins

lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:05 (one year ago) Permalink

imo if you put klay on a bad team he puts up an empty 24-25 ppg. if anyone is a system player it is he. the warriors system works because of drays versatility not the other way around

k3vin k., Friday, 24 February 2017 17:08 (one year ago) Permalink

Klay is one of the best shooters in the league and a serviceable perimeter defender. Dray is a better defender and a worse shooter (significantly) who can do more things on the court tho i think his 3 pt ability is perhaps more significant given his position and who he guards. i think if u put both of them on teams w league avg dudes, klay's team would put up more than wins, and generally speaking i think klay's skillset is more generally valuable so i vote Klay

art, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:13 (one year ago) Permalink

dray is an all world defender but a far below average scorer and a good playmaker where people think hes great cause hes playing with great players to playmake with

lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:18 (one year ago) Permalink

i think he might have a thing for kicking people in the nuts . not sure if that's a pos or a neg tho

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 24 February 2017 17:22 (one year ago) Permalink

draymond has only kicked someone in the nuts once tbf

Spottie, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:26 (one year ago) Permalink

phil spector only shot someone once too, just gonna put that out there

nomar, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:27 (one year ago) Permalink

it true we shd prob refer to drays repeat behavior as nut hunting

lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:28 (one year ago) Permalink

exactly

Spottie, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:31 (one year ago) Permalink

dray is better but that doesn't excuse his nut hunting

ciderpress, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:33 (one year ago) Permalink

put draymond on an average team and ppl would talk about him roughly like how they talk about steven adams.

― call all destroyer, Friday, February 24, 2017 12:04 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark

this is crazy

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2017 18:04 (one year ago) Permalink

draymond is no offensive superstar but he has a serviceable three point shot and is one of the best playmaking bigs in the game

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2017 18:05 (one year ago) Permalink

klay is elite at one of the most important skills in the NBA but i agree that on a middling team he'd be mostly empty points, gimme dray's all around game and crazy intensity

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2017 18:07 (one year ago) Permalink

if anyone is a system player it is he. the warriors system works because of drays versatility not the other way around

― k3vin k., Friday, February 24, 2017 12:08 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark

i agree with this

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2017 18:08 (one year ago) Permalink

his playmaking is good but no one wld be talking abt it if he wasnt playing with guys who constantly create the halfcourt fast break, like he cant take advantage of ppl going under on the pnr cause hes not a good enough shooter etc, hed have 4-5 assists a game on a normal team, and lets be clear on his scoring hes shooting 43% and scoring 10 a game in a situation where he gets more open looks than anyone else in the entire nba, hes is bad at doing points

lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2017 18:11 (one year ago) Permalink

if anyone is a system player it is he. the warriors system works because of drays versatility not the other way around

― k3vin k., Friday, February 24, 2017 12:08 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark

i agree with this

― J0rdan S., Friday, February 24, 2017 1:08 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the warriors shd be given credit for coming up with a great system for their players, the difference between the jackson years and now is lol, but there are a lot of players that cld work in drays spot the system wld just have to shift, which isnt that hard to do when you have the talent they do

lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2017 18:13 (one year ago) Permalink

there are more players like klay in the NBA than there are like draymond

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2017 18:18 (one year ago) Permalink

only a very handful of guys who can shoot like klay, which is the single most valuable basketball skill

lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2017 18:21 (one year ago) Permalink

and besides basketball isnt decided on scarcity, its decided on being good at basketball

lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2017 18:22 (one year ago) Permalink

idk we can do the "on a bad team" thing all day, if draymond is on a bad team he's putting up like a 13/8/4 with lousy shooting percentages. he plays great in their system but his teammates are literally the best shooters in the league so i'm not sure how much he's elevating them further.

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 February 2017 18:32 (one year ago) Permalink

i think we can all agree that most of his value is on the other side of the ball regardless, hes great at lots of different defensive things

lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2017 18:35 (one year ago) Permalink

it's true he's one of the best defenders in the NBA

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2017 19:36 (one year ago) Permalink

he is insanely good and versatile at D, maybe the most versatile defender since kg?

lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2017 19:39 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah can't think of too many guys since who were unmovable on the block and also a terror while on the move

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2017 19:47 (one year ago) Permalink

his playmaking is good but no one wld be talking abt it if he wasnt playing with guys who constantly create the halfcourt fast break, like he cant take advantage of ppl going under on the pnr cause hes not a good enough shooter etc, hed have 4-5 assists a game on a normal team, and lets be clear on his scoring hes shooting 43% and scoring 10 a game in a situation where he gets more open looks than anyone else in the entire nba, hes is bad at doing points

― lag∞n, Friday, February 24, 2017 1:11 PM (four hours ago)

his usage is like 15% because he plays on the same team as the 2 best offensive players in the NBA, come on

k3vin k., Friday, 24 February 2017 22:38 (one year ago) Permalink

if anyone is a system player it is he. the warriors system works because of drays versatility not the other way around

― k3vin k., Friday, February 24, 2017 12:08 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark

i agree with this

― J0rdan S., Friday, February 24, 2017 1:08 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the warriors shd be given credit for coming up with a great system for their players, the difference between the jackson years and now is lol, but there are a lot of players that cld work in drays spot the system wld just have to shift, which isnt that hard to do when you have the talent they do

― lag∞n, Friday, February 24, 2017 1:13 PM (four hours ago)

omg you might have heard of this thing called the death lineup for which he is the centerpiece

k3vin k., Friday, 24 February 2017 22:39 (one year ago) Permalink

lol he is not

lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2017 23:17 (one year ago) Permalink

without dray that lineup gives up approximately one million points per possession

k3vin k., Saturday, 25 February 2017 01:15 (one year ago) Permalink

well yeah playing 4 on 5 is never gonna work

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 February 2017 01:19 (one year ago) Permalink

oh you

k3vin k., Saturday, 25 February 2017 01:49 (one year ago) Permalink

lol

call all destroyer, Saturday, 25 February 2017 01:50 (one year ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 6 March 2017 00:01 (one year ago) Permalink

imo if you put klay on a bad team he puts up an empty 24-25 ppg. if anyone is a system player it is he. the warriors system works because of drays versatility not the other way around

I don't think "he would just average 25 ppg" is a strong argument that someone is a system player

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 6 March 2017 01:32 (one year ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 00:01 (one year ago) Permalink

lol

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 00:55 (one year ago) Permalink

bad results!!

k3vin k., Thursday, 9 March 2017 13:12 (one year ago) Permalink

is results the name of your dog?

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 9 March 2017 19:16 (one year ago) Permalink

im with k3vin on this one

ciderpress, Thursday, 9 March 2017 20:49 (one year ago) Permalink

it is quite possible that many ilh voters mistakenly believed they were voting for beloved poster me, thus skewing the results

Clay, Thursday, 9 March 2017 22:52 (one year ago) Permalink

i know i did

Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Thursday, 9 March 2017 22:56 (one year ago) Permalink

i thought i was voting for pottery

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Friday, 10 March 2017 09:24 (one year ago) Permalink

I voted for Klay to revolt against the elites

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 10 March 2017 20:12 (one year ago) Permalink

ugh so mad at you

k3vin k., Friday, 10 March 2017 23:04 (one year ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

something for everyone here

“You know what, Steph Curry has took a step back,” Rodman said. “And it’s cool. It’s actually cool because if you see his game now, I always said with that Golden State team, I always say one thing: that one player is the player right there that makes that team. Who is that player?…

“That is right there: Thompson,” Rodman said. “That kid right there is good. If he went to another team, he’d suck. What I’m saying is that Klay Thompson makes that team. Everybody’s always worried about Curry. I know Curry’s dad and all that bulls—. But Klay Thompson makes that team. It ain’t Green, that guy, no. It’s Klay Thompson.”

nomar, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 21:13 (one year ago) Permalink

i dont know why u guys are talking to me when u shd be talking to god

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 19:54 (one year ago) Permalink

people say dray is also one of the smartest players they've ever seen, i think that will take him a long way

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:03 (one year ago) Permalink

hes def kinda a basketball genius, tho not smart enough to not do a full crouch when shooting idk why its always this way with basketball geniuses, anyway i dont see his style of play having great longevity regardless, i mean hell still be around and people prob wont even notice hes dropped off cause what he does isnt as obvious as like being an elite scorer, but he will have dropped off still

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:07 (one year ago) Permalink

hes already 27 kinda crazy, came into the league old

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:07 (one year ago) Permalink

he has a david west/zach randolph type body. those guys are built to last. he doesn't have their scoring skill but he'll play for as long as he wants i think.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:09 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah but those guys didnt build their game around insane switching defense, although west was certainly a very good defender in his day he was never a guard 1-5 type (which is never actually true!) (unless yr kevin garnett)

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:11 (one year ago) Permalink

anyway im not saying that hell be out of the league just that based on his style of play hell prob have a shorter peak than say a great shooter would

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:14 (one year ago) Permalink

theres a good chance weve already seen his peak peak

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:14 (one year ago) Permalink

which to be clear is all-nba level

k3vin k., Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:15 (one year ago) Permalink

ive said before he deserved the dpoy, but on the other hand klay is one of the best shooters to ever play and has the fastest release in the whole nba according to the science website 538.com, shooting is considered an important nba skill and to my understanding he does some other stuff decently too

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:18 (one year ago) Permalink

i mean if ive said it once i said it a million times dray needs to be traded to the orlando magic to really settle this, which is also a thing that shd actual happen asap

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:19 (one year ago) Permalink

it wld be good for him too as a person to not have as many great players on his team to gloat over

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:21 (one year ago) Permalink

no

Spottie, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:33 (one year ago) Permalink

who says no

https://i.imgur.com/xaGJdFc.png

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:38 (one year ago) Permalink

klay was really incredibly impressive in the finals. his defense was crazy. i still think draymond is better.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 October 2017 20:51 (one year ago) Permalink

Draymond Green spoke passionately about this at shootaround this morning. pic.twitter.com/Xxb1zmjJV0

— Kerith Burke (@KerithBurke) October 27, 2017


Here's everything Draymond Green had to say about the Bob McNair comment: Instagram post and shootaround answers pic.twitter.com/iaHYeELUg5

— Anthony Slater (@anthonyVslater) October 27, 2017

Spottie, Friday, 27 October 2017 19:13 (one year ago) Permalink

odd but perhaps very canny that dray is focused on the "paying my taxes" line of argument, know your audience

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 27 October 2017 19:16 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah def

dray is awesome

k3vin k., Friday, 27 October 2017 20:41 (one year ago) Permalink

"Wow! This sure does sound Donald Sterling-esque!" love this guy

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 27 October 2017 20:48 (one year ago) Permalink

"For starters, let's stop using the word owner and maybe use the word Chairman. To be owned by someone just sets a bad precedent to start. It sets the wrong tone. It gives one the wrong mindset." keep going dray, so close to the logical conclusion of the players coop league

lag∞n, Friday, 27 October 2017 22:10 (one year ago) Permalink

yup

Spottie, Friday, 27 October 2017 22:22 (one year ago) Permalink

Have definitely felt weird about team "owners" as a phrase

100% makes sense in terms of "owns the business dba Sacramento kings and personally pays salaries" and much less in terms of players

Would be like saying yeah I took a contract programming for google, Larry and Sergei are my owners

Before even getting to the obv racial overtones drays on that

gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Friday, 27 October 2017 22:57 (one year ago) Permalink

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNM-lmmVQAAX_nO.jpg

Spottie, Saturday, 28 October 2017 20:47 (one year ago) Permalink

insane picture

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 30 October 2017 18:56 (one year ago) Permalink

also funny cos they got in a fight not long after

Spottie, Monday, 30 October 2017 19:30 (one year ago) Permalink

lol dray is such a compulsive line crosser, which is fine, but then he complains abt being targeted cmon http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/10/30/warriors-draymond-green-takes-issue-with-fine-for-fight-with-beal/

lag∞n, Monday, 30 October 2017 19:41 (one year ago) Permalink

i see no lies

Spottie, Monday, 30 October 2017 19:49 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

prefer the AND ONE version

competitive shooter - - - - (Spottie), Thursday, 30 November 2017 01:43 (one year ago) Permalink

literally heard fitz' voice when i looked at that one

brimstead, Thursday, 30 November 2017 02:02 (one year ago) Permalink

haha

competitive shooter - - - - (Spottie), Thursday, 30 November 2017 02:03 (one year ago) Permalink

sending one to lagoon for christmas :)

k3vin k., Thursday, 30 November 2017 02:39 (one year ago) Permalink

would pitch in

competitive shooter - - - - (Spottie), Thursday, 30 November 2017 02:41 (one year ago) Permalink

:|

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2017 02:45 (one year ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

Oh my god how did I forget about this!!! When Draymond scored his first ever NBA field goal he immediately got a technical for taunting. pic.twitter.com/YR2YUFDH76

— GoGSWs (@GoGSWs) August 23, 2018

InfoWarriors (Spottie), Friday, 24 August 2018 07:02 (three months ago) Permalink

GOAT

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 August 2018 13:57 (three months ago) Permalink

^^^

k3vin k., Saturday, 25 August 2018 13:06 (three months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

these chinese klay illustrations are incredible:
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/disp/beeb2566680675.5b1eaa7c04c4b.jpg
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/disp/12986266680675.5b1eaa7c0404b.jpg
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/disp/844f5966680675.5b1eaa7c04621.jpg
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/disp/96e2fa66680675.5b1eaa7c05264.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SCuDVr2.jpg

Klay Thompson is known as “The Electrician” in China, a nickname that – with the backing of his shoe company, Anta – has caught on in recent weeks in a country where the usually mild-mannered All-Star has embraced a different, bathing-in-a-tub-of-gold-sneakers persona. Thompson has begun to embrace the blue-collar moniker, which he earned because of his ability to energize an arena with his timely, titillating shotmaking

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Friday, 21 September 2018 00:03 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Klay Thompson. Not a fan of the ponytail. pic.twitter.com/HJ2w3ajfBy

— Jim Park (@Sheridanblog) November 14, 2018

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 06:50 (four weeks ago) Permalink

lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 17:05 (four weeks ago) Permalink

the tables have turned klay is better now

ciderpress, Friday, 16 November 2018 20:20 (three weeks ago) Permalink

what IF klay was always better?

lag∞n, Friday, 16 November 2018 21:26 (three weeks ago) Permalink

he was not but he might be now but he might not be later stay tuned to this space

k3vin k., Friday, 16 November 2018 21:50 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Klay was always better.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 16 November 2018 21:53 (three weeks ago) Permalink

he won the popular vote in a landslide the people have spoken

lag∞n, Friday, 16 November 2018 21:53 (three weeks ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

One of the great Dray stories pic.twitter.com/IQiRNZomZn

— warriorsworld (@warriorsworld) December 6, 2018

Spottie, Thursday, 6 December 2018 20:49 (six days ago) Permalink

hahaha what a psycho i love him

J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2018 21:05 (six days ago) Permalink

lol then he denounced him

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 December 2018 21:09 (six days ago) Permalink

lmao

very legal and very cool (k3vin k.), Thursday, 6 December 2018 21:34 (six days ago) Permalink

denounced renounced whatever

very legal and very cool (k3vin k.), Thursday, 6 December 2018 21:34 (six days ago) Permalink


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