nba off season 2024 bud 2 suns etc

and to your point he was essentially dropped out of the rotation for an entire season until he remade his game to include far more ability to score on his own at the rim, break down the defense and pass the ball etc

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Saturday, July 6, 2024 2:38 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

def nice work work by him, i think hes still vulnerable but not as much, could be some bad playoff matchups for him where the original vision is more we get this guy and just let him bomb away but its never that simple, then by the time that you get a guy who can totally hold up well that guys a star

his skillset is an inherently flawed one and over the span of 3 seasons teams were able to eventually get him to the point where the flaws were being really highlighted at the expense of the good stuff. the heat’s response was to bench him, and then his response was to add enough back into his game to get back into the starting line up. these days the margins when your skillset is overwhelmingly dominated by one attribute be it athleticism, shooting, passing, rebounding, post scoring etc are just really thin

and if you zoom out on duncan’s whole life story from D3 to michigan to g league to rotation player to starting line up to huge contract to benchwarmer to rotation player to starting line up … i think he posses some ability to continually refine/improve his game that exceeds that of even a lot of other nba players. his arc as a player is not normal

wonder if with the transfer protocol well see more guys go from obscure schools to big schools to the league now, like the guy the celtics took with the 30th pick this year baylor scheierman started at south dakota state who have produced 3 nba players ever then transferred to creighton and got drafted in the first round

the guy from washington state who got drafted had the same story

sonoma state to washington state to the league

an OG version of this is jimmy butler going from some random junior college in texas to marquette to the league

dalton knecht, derrick white both similar

idk what the deal is maybe it was always ok to transfer from d2 or jr college to d1 but from d1 to d1 you used to have to sit out a year which obvs a lot of guys didnt want to do

Sixers signed Caleb Martin, 4 years, $32M.

thats pretty nice for them

that’s a great signing for them i’m shocked he couldn’t get more (the heat immediately leaked that he turned down 4/48 from them before FA [which was a bit rude])

gotta get ahead of people saying they let him walk

nba's informal dv policy is to wait a year and then act like nothing happened

― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Saturday, July 6, 2024 3:02 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

at the very least he’s relegated to an irrelevant team

for $25m a year

idk what the deal is maybe it was always ok to transfer from d2 or jr college to d1 but from d1 to d1 you used to have to sit out a year which obvs a lot of guys didnt want to do

― lag∞n, Saturday, July 6, 2024 2:49 PM (forty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

robinson actually did sit out a year before playing at michigan!

also it’s a world of difference between d3 and a solid d1 mid-major like south dakota st.

going from williams to nba is crazy whats next middlebury

Free agent F Dario Saric has agreed on a two-year, $10.6 million deal with the Denver Nuggets, sources tell ESPN. Deal includes player option on second-year. pic.twitter.com/kHfy7KAv45

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 6, 2024

quality pickup for denver imo, i coveted him for my team

the sixers didn't just *sign* martin, they (according to woj) 'landed an impactful commitment in' him

congrats to bronny james on his summer league debut, 21 minutes, 4 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists, 2/9 fg, 0/3 3pt, 0/2 ft

i know we should never take anything meaningful from summer league but WOOF

in line with his college stats

congrats to "sacramento kings 2" for defeating bronny and the lakers

they got two of those now huh well i never

dalton knecht 3-12 (shooters shoot)

i think we can all see the future is bright for the plucky young gunners in hollyweird, ca

kings 2 have a guy named adonis arms who played for four different colleges

adonis arms! love it.

adonis legs, adonis feet

the Sacramento Kings of Earth 2

pretty happy with saric, who from what I’d been hearing the past week or so had been booth’s target from day 1. now leaves the nuggets in an interesting situation where they have a glut of bigs (especially if they sign vlatko cancar as they’re expected to), much different identity from the past couple of years where they were really thin there

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GR2IfJiW8AAnlIv?format=jpg&name=medium

ok!

ESPN Sources with @TimBontemps: The Sacramento Kings are agreed on a sign-and-trade that will land DeMar DeRozan on a three-year deal, send Harrison Barnes to the San Antonio Spurs and Chris Duarte, two second-round picks and cash to the Chicago Bulls. pic.twitter.com/eopPkSPBvc

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 7, 2024

that's just an objective upgrade for the kings at no cost, nice work

ahem, they traded an unprotected 1rp swap in 2031 (to the spurs)

im very excited to see the spurs put up a functioning nba lineup next year, its been a while!

as a chris paul stan I am looking forward to the spurs season

at the very least the spurs now have a guy who can throw the ball to wemby, it will be fun to see how high can he throw it

last year it was like devin vassell you know you can throw that four feet higher

Odds this the new meta?

The Dallas Mavericks announced today that they have acquired 5-time All-Star Klay Thompson and a future 2nd-round pick as part of a six-team sign-and-trade deal in exchange for Josh Green and a future 2nd-round pick.

It marks the first six-team trade in NBA history. pic.twitter.com/BKHszomMay

— Mavs PR (@MavsPR) July 7, 2024

a nice big trade :)

last year it was like devin vassell you know you can throw that four feet higher

― lag∞n, Sunday, July 7, 2024 9:45 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah you could tell the non-wemby spurs just had never played ball with an actual star before, but i also think they were given more of a green light to just try shit out and see what worked, so there was less emphasis on spamming "get the ball to the big guy" offense. i think this offseason shows that open mic night is over.

i love this lineup: cp3-vassell-sochan-barnes-wemby

that's 4 legit outside shooters plus sochan (wemby didnt shoot great from 3 but he improved as the year went on, andsochan isnt a complete disaster there)

the biggest thing here i think is that the worst spurs players (branham, wesley, collins) will see a decline in their playing time with those minutes getting absorbed by actual nba rotation players. they really struggled closing winnable games last year an they should be able to do a lot better on that end.

It's been more than a week since the start of free agency and the Pelicans still haven't figured out what the future holds for Brandon Ingram.

Now that Paul George is in Philly and DeRozan in Sacramento, is New Orleans running low on trade options?https://t.co/tGzfZ5hehv

— Will Guillory (@WillGuillory) July 8, 2024

kinda shocked ingram hasn't been dealt yet, kind of in that class of stars who aren't #1 guys who want #1 money and i guess teams are not super jazzed about giving up assets for the honor of paying him $50m a year the next few seasons

yeah will be interesting to see what happens with him and guys like him under the new conditions

he turned down a max extension last year in order to try to make all nba and get a super max so not sure hes really processing the new reality

logistically its more difficult now too since a team that thinks hes the last piece to a championship and might overpay is likely to be over the second apron and therefor cant trade multiple guys for one, im trying to trade him to minny and its just not going to work

i don't think people have fully reckoned w/ the idea that after lebron left cleveland the owners have been on a crusade to restrict player movement, which has continued unabated into this seemingly insane new CBA, to the point that the avenues for player movement are becoming so narrow and restrictive that we just saw the first 6 team trade in NBA history executed in which the main 3 players moved (klay, kyle anderson, buddy hield) were all actually "unrestricted" free agents

the media class is so cba pilled now that nobody ever really steps back and talks about this, bcuz they're all too busy playing shadow GM in the public sphere, but then again we need them to, bcuz how else to actually understand why things are happening in the league

good point, it is kinda funny how players just went around it via trade demands tho

i've posted about this before but the broad arc of the nba since 2010 is as follows

1. lebron and bosh sign w/ the heat

2. in response the owners add rules into the subsequent CBA allowing teams to offer their own players more years and more money in exclusive negotiating periods that happen years before they become free agents

3. high level free agency is killed

4. the most valued players, and most players period, can only be moved via trades

5. every team is always signing their players early to "retain the asset," only the very worst teams in the league have cap space

6. the trade market becomes extremely overheated

7. teams begin hoarding all their artificially limited trade assets (i.e. you can't trade your 2052 first) & then spending them all at once, future trade assets are consolidated among a handful of teams

*new CBA*

8. with free agency effectively killed, the owners begin taking aim at player movement in the trade market, adding in new restrictions that harshly penalize teams that take back more money in a trade (no other sport has salary matching rules) and make it so that the most expensive teams -- i.e. the best ones, the ones that are competing for titles -- basically cannot complete trades if they're paying their players too much money collectively

maybe things shake themselves out, the market finds a way etc guys like shai and ant could choose to shake the league up who knows but i think this is going to continue to go to a pretty bad, unsatisfying, and confusing place for the sport

because the players are so rich nowadays and because we all live for trade rumor drama etc i really don't think ppl have woken up to the fact that this is like a pre-1970s mlb owner level attack on free agency by nba owners over the last decade plus