golden state warriors thread

Even if they get Superstar X they still need another key rotation guy imo.

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Even if they get Superstar X they still need another key rotation guy imo.

The depth might get decimated by the trade tho so you may be right.

I love GP he’s great as a situational guy but the injuries are killer

podz hit the rookie wall right when klay was figuring out his new role like jan-march

What wall? Looking at the monthly splits for Podz, he was consistent all year, and in April he ended on his best month offensively with a .637 TS%. Granted Klay also had his best month in April too, but why don't you rewatch that play in game! BTW in that game, Podz had the best +/- of any player who played more than 20 minutes and outplayed Klay both offensively (not hard to do) and defensively.

Podz will only get better and stronger, likely earning a starting lineup spot depending on how the off season pans out. Klay's not much more than an off the bench spot up shooter now, and that role can be more easily replaced. Highly unlikely you're going to get more out of Klay than Podz the next 2-3 years.

The thing that peeves me with Klay much more than performance however was his attitude last year. He came off as near toxic with his body language, and his poor performances would compound during a game. His lack of grace during the last couple seasons has been a terrible vibe to watch and it's soured me a bit on him too.

All that to say, I would love to see Klay back! At the right price, with the right role, and him openly and humbly understanding where he's at in his career and being a complete team player. He also needs to get out of his head. I don't have confidence he'll be that team player given what I've seen from him lately. It sucks.

damn we got a dubs civil war on our hands

this is what it sounds like when dubs fight

Hey, let's not have it come to blows! Ha

I think part of the issue here is that Klay still had insane offensive moments last year at times and the value Podz brings is more akin to Draymond, less "sexy" or obvious since he isn't a points first guy, but all hustle and BBIQ. It's really easy to be seduced by the former and overlook the latter. Fortunately I'm pretty confident the coaching staff and FO see what I see.

Podz will only get better and stronger, likely earning a starting lineup spot depending on how the off season pans out. Klay's not much more than an off the bench spot up shooter now, and that role can be more easily replaced. Highly unlikely you're going to get more out of Klay than Podz the next 2-3 years.

i dont disagree but that wasnt the argument. i still worry about a curry/podz starting back court tho. i didnt love what i saw once klay moved the bench (which is when podz hit a wall imo).

Granted Klay also had his best month in April too, but why don't you rewatch that play in game! BTW in that game, Podz had the best +/- of any player who played more than 20 minutes and outplayed Klay both offensively (not hard to do) and defensively.

its true klay had his worst game of the season in the play-in (and worst series vs the lakers the year before). i dont need to rewatch it thx. two years in a row of being at his worst when they need his best was v painful and probably the biggest knock on him. they def need a true 2nd option so a cold klay night doesnt handcuff them. would be awesome if podz turns into a bigger scoring threat to help too.

The thing that peeves me with Klay much more than performance however was his attitude last year. He came off as near toxic with his body language, and his poor performances would compound during a game. His lack of grace during the last couple seasons has been a terrible vibe to watch and it's soured me a bit on him too.

― octobeard, Monday, June 24, 2024 2:44 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

think the fanbase needs/needed to give him some more grace. not an easy thing to confront your decline and everything it entails (especially after being robbed of 2.5 seasons of his prime)... we cant expect every pro to be tim duncan with how they react to it. it took him some time but he figured it out, i was fascinated by it last year and even found him to be pretty relatable in his frustrations. I think he earned the time they gave him... on the other hand andrew wiggins did not earn the rope they gave him and his issues compounded klays. if klay comes back i think he'll be a better vet/pro about it all.

I think part of the issue here is that Klay still had insane offensive moments last year at times and the value Podz brings is more akin to Draymond, less "sexy" or obvious since he isn't a points first guy, but all hustle and BBIQ. It's really easy to be seduced by the former and overlook the latter. Fortunately I'm pretty confident the coaching staff and FO see what I see.

podz is a baller! im not being seduced by anything lol.

this is what it sounds like when dubs fight

― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Monday, June 24, 2024 3:09 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lmao

Nice.

i dont disagree but that wasnt the argument. i still worry about a curry/podz starting back court tho. i didnt love what i saw once klay moved the bench (which is when podz hit a wall imo).

I remember now, Podz came in to start against the Jazz, Dubs actually did quite well, going 5-1, culminating in that epic win in NY against the Knicks! However, Podz hurt his knee in that Knicks game, missed 4-5 games, and wasn't quite the same until April. After Podz came back, Klay played well on the bench and regained his starting job. Podz didn't hit a wall, he was hurt. Before and after that injury, he was consistently playing as well as or better than Klay, just not scoring as many points.

they def need a true 2nd option so a cold klay night doesnt handcuff them. would be awesome if podz turns into a bigger scoring threat to help too.

100% agree! I would also love to see an adjustment in his game to not let it fly so much and pick spots more intelligently. So much momentum was lost last year with 3rd and 4th quarter Klay bricks. But Klay still thinks he's a #2. He's not anymore, and hasn't been since he's been back (that was Poole in '22). My guess is the Warriors are going to trade for that #2 in the next few weeks.

think the fanbase needs/needed to give him some more grace.

If he wants grace at the financial and playtime expense of the team, that's not right, and as a fan, I'm not here for that. Those playoff performances weren't very graceful.

on the other hand andrew wiggins did not earn the rope they gave him and his issues compounded klays. if klay comes back i think he'll be a better vet/pro about it all.

Yeah Wiggs is a problem and he needs to be held to account for his performance moving forward. I do hope the team can move on from him if possible in a trade, but a lot of my frustrations last year could be attributed to Kerr's long leashes too. That has to change too, and Klay should be on board with that if he's going to be a "vet/pro about it all".

They should make wiggs get another COVID shot

Just Make him promise to play better

I mean... yeah, that

xpost I can arrange for a shipment of Becky Taylor's famous lasagna for the meeting

Chris Finch 4 year contract extension just signed

sounds like the warriors need to fill out their starting lineup at the 2, 3 and 5

Honestly this last back and forth about Klay and Podz has been the highlight of this off-season so far, and I expect it'll still be the case till the season starts.

sounds like the warriors need to fill out their starting lineup at the 2, 3 and 5

― micah, Monday, June 24, 2024 10:22 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

lol yes basically

steph, klay, pg, dray, claxton get it dun-leavy

would be pretty good

PG would be a sweet pickup, not convinced about Butler though

The Warriors plan to keep Lindy Waters III past his Saturday guarantee date, per sources: $2.2 million next season. They like him as a deep rotation option. https://t.co/DP8qjbeSck

— Anthony Slater (@anthonyVslater) June 27, 2024

guess they just wanted someone in their prime that might be able to make a shot or two. probably not any TJDs hanging out at the bottom of the draft this year so its worth a shot i guess.

Yeah this draft is an absolute crap shoot and this trade is probably better than what they'd have picked. Given the success of last year's draft, this and next year's is going to be like found money if anything good comes from it. Understandable to want to trade picks for PG at this stage.

okc didn't have enough draft picks?

Do people call this guy Waters fellow "Triple Lindy" #BackToSchool

uh ok

The Warriors got their No. 52 pick Quinten Post back, sources tell ESPN. Golden State traded the pick for Lindy Waters, OKC traded the pick to Portland, and then the Warriors bought it back.

— Kendra Andrews (@kendra__andrews) June 27, 2024

Dubs FO heard you, poly.

lol what the hell

7 foot shooter i guess

Because Golden State sent out cash to acquire the pick, the $189.7M second apron is triggered.

The Warriors would not be allowed to exceed that amount. https://t.co/bQ94QxOuhJ

— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) June 27, 2024

Looks like Klay is not coming back unless he signs cheap. Pretty savvy moves though to add additional talent in preparation for a trade

Can you untrigger the apron?

Not sure how that works or if there's a window to untrigger. Let me get Bob Myers on the phone

so much for getting under the tax

was it a mistake whats going on here

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5598192/2024/06/27/warriors-nba-draft-lindy-waters-quinten-post/

Sez that they knew they were going to be hard capped, but went ahead because they wanted some guys. They can get back under it through trades and such, I think.

They're hard capped including Paul's contract, so that's the most obvious move they'd make.

ah i see

extending pauls contract one week and blocking wiggs from playing overseas

ESPN Sources: Golden State and Chris Paul intend to move back the date to guarantee the $30 million on his 2024-2025 contract to the start of free agency on Sunday. Deadline was originally today. This gives Warriors time to keep exploring trades.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 28, 2024

Mutual decision between the Warriors and Andrew Wiggins to prioritize his health and hold him out of Olympics, I’m told. Doesn’t preclude GSW from possibly trading him, but it’s a medical decision. Wiggins dealt with an ankle issue late this past season. https://t.co/W3jyDMY8Y1

— Anthony Slater (@anthonyVslater) June 28, 2024

also klay coming back is looking less likely is the rumbles amongst the warriors reporters.

some rumors of him landing on the nuggets though I’m not sure how that would happen with the cap and apron and so forth

Just learned that hard-capping isn't necessarily the same as going over the aprons! NBA cap shenanigans is like the US tax code.

Not only is Klay's departure seemingly imminent, the pipe dream of being PG seems DOA now too. Well done.

In a desperate search to upgrade the talent of an underperforming supporting cast around Stephen Curry, they had spent the last couple of weeks actively exploring the trade market, including an improbable run at free-agent-to-be Paul George, a pursuit the team knows is now dead.

Also the gram unfollowing drama was real.

Yah not looking good. Losing klay (and for nothing) and if they don’t trade anything for wigs and/or cps contracts would mean the end

Losing Klay isn't as big of a deal in my eyes. At where his talent level is now, he's replaceable. Sucks for the "narrative" and having a proper send off for the dynastic trio, but the bigger picture of the Dubs getting better doesn't really hinge on Klay, it hinges on acquiring a legitimate 2nd option.