2023/24 NBA REGULAR SEASON THREAD "THANKING FOR WEMBANYAMA"

Grayson Allen big game

paul george and james harden both look great as like… not the second or third best player on the team but somewhere in between. or maybe it changes by possession. but it’s like they both have 25% less to do and w/ kawhi playing well it looks good

very good game rn

neither shai or chet are having particularly good games and yet they’re only down 1

Every bucket from the Suns 32-8 run that lead them to a huge comeback victory 👀 pic.twitter.com/ddTM0asLR8

— NBA (@NBA) January 17, 2024

keep seeing kawhi do insane stuff on defense

Kawhi basically looks like his old self the question always can be sustain it for ~60 more games

I never thought this clippers group would put it together in the slightest so color me impressed

they need to find a real big man imo… zubac, thiess, plumlee is not gonna get it done. but the rest of the roster is believable to me

PG was awesome tonight damn

yeah what’s up Paul George

they need to find a real big man imo… zubac, thiess, plumlee is not gonna get it done. but the rest of the roster is believable to me

*stars

easy to get excited about okc’s season but young teams melt down against veteran pressure just a truth in the business of hoops

Yah b2b la losses.

ILHs fav (gray)son

Grayson Allen is averaging career-highs in

PPG
RPG
APG
BPG
FG%
3P%
FT%

14 PPG on 50/48/91% shooting. https://t.co/Yhit10HzZJ

— StatMuse (@statmuse) January 17, 2024

add him to my list from earlier

theoretically theis can hit 3s, he should do it more imo

14 PPG on 50/48/91% shooting

he should shoot more

trades

Pascal Siakam is joining Tyrese Haliburton with the Pacers pic.twitter.com/JirRSYzHYq

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) January 17, 2024

ooohh

love to see the top of the eastern conference beefing up

two firsts + a very shitty first and siakam will resign seems pretty reasonable

Indiana is sending two 2024 first-rounders and a 2026 first to the Raptors, sources said. New Orleans sends a second-round pick to Indiana. https://t.co/xxaMY5dETc

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) January 17, 2024

Pascal Siakam is excited about the deal to the Pacers and expected to be eager to work out a new contract with the franchise this summer, sources tell ESPN. Siakam can be a free agent in July. https://t.co/gFJGXwHJCU

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) January 17, 2024

bruce browns deal was designed to be traded 2 years @$45m second year team option, and they did trade it, dealing nugs bench collateral damage

two firsts + a very shitty first and siakam will resign seems pretty reasonable

this years first likely going to be in the bottom half too now that i think about it, and other pick is only two years out and indys a good young team

yeah that’s a no-brainer for indiana

they needed a 4 a second creator and defense, got it all

got damn hate to see brucie B get moved like that. toronto is a cool city though, and he is welcome to come back to denver after his contract is up lol

this is a good trade I approve

haralabob not a fan

Not a fan of this deal for Indy at all, haven't read the specifics of the 1st round picks and how protected they are but they gave up a lot for a player they have to pay a max for and aren't getting a lot back in return imo. https://t.co/uxfPbFsxL9

— Haralabos Voulgaris (@haralabob) January 17, 2024

To add a little more color its not that Siakam is a bad player, its just what else could you get if you were willing to give up 3 1sts + Bruce Brown on a decent contract?

— Haralabos Voulgaris (@haralabob) January 17, 2024

haven't read the specifics of the 1st round picks and how protected

very serious opinions

also bruce brown at $22 is not reasonable

decent rather

the combo of giving up assets plus the extension is a big bet but i'm of the opinion he fits there pretty nicely and will look a lot better playing w/ a great true PG. but there are ppl who think siakam isn't all that good just overall

you'd think that bruce brown has a good deal of value on the trade market bcuz he fits on any playoff team & thus could maybe be moved for another first... but maybe not

yeah seems like a stretch maybe a bad first, he makes a lot which makes it more difficult too

indy gave up 3 1st but keep in mind this is one of them, basically guaranteed to be bottom 10 likely bottom 5

The worst first-round pick between the Clippers, Thunder Jazz, and Rockets in 2024.

and their own pick this year which barring major injuries will not be in the lottery

the fact that he was included in this trade must indicate that his value prob is less than i think bcuz as long as you can match the salary cap wise you'd only be paying what like $10m or less for a versatile wing we just saw play a pivotal role on a finals team. idk why every contending team wouldn't be dangling at least some kinda first for him but tbh his career suggests teams just don't like him that much for whatever reason

or maybe the two firsts are considered lower value and brown is considered a higher value acquisition idk

i think he was just filler in this trade considering torontos not really contending, thats why indy signed him to that deal in the first place, im sure any contender would be happy to have him but not sure how much theyre willing to pay, could see philly looking at him considering they have the contracts to make a deal easy and they have a shitty first like the one indy traded

tho maybe toronto wants to hold onto him to make a big trade of their own

He does seems to fit their plan of finding guys who can contribute to next year's Raptors, but won't surprise me if they deal him.

the fact that he was included in this trade must indicate that his value prob is less than i think bcuz as long as you can match the salary cap wise you'd only be paying what like $10m or less for a versatile wing we just saw play a pivotal role on a finals team. idk why every contending team wouldn't be dangling at least some kinda first for him but tbh his career suggests teams just don't like him that much for whatever reason

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, January 17, 2024 3:54 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

or maybe the two firsts are considered lower value and brown is considered a higher value acquisition idk

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, January 17, 2024 3:54 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he was perfect last year as a 6th/7th man, problem is he’s now being paid as a 4th/5th guy, which on the right team (ascending without real expectations) makes a lot of sense, but for a contender looking for a short term upgrade might be tougher

it's only a 1 year deal tho, i think most teams could figure it out... it makes more sense if toronto sees him as a brogdon type addition to the trade who can be flipped again

the hard part is most contenders either dont have spare matching contracts or dont have a ton of picks to splash around

bob has really lost his fastball on nba lol

not a big siakam guy myself but the combination of player type, star opportunity for a small market, and cost is pretty much spot on

siakam trade might be a kicking the can down the road type thing for the raptors cause theyve said they want players but took a picks heavy deal so they might be planning on turning around at trading brown + picks for a player when the opportunity presents itself

siakam is going to get so many dunks in indy, hes going from one of the most clogged up teams to prob the most free flowing, i think hes gonna play real good there, plus his defense will really help, indy didnt have a starting quality pf now they have a very good one

Curious to see how different Siakam looks in Carlisle's offense, could tap into something that wasn't an option in TOR. Can't wait to see this team on the floor; I guess the Hali/Siakam/Turner/Nesmith starting 5 is pretty locked in (and now features 3 plus defenders), maybe Benn joins them by playoff time.

Pacers tiptoeing into the two-star strata of EC teams like Philly/Celtics/Heat/Bucks?